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    <p>Thanks Dennis, <br>
      <br>
      First of all, if we look what has been published is that RDAP
      should be implemented Feb 1, 2017 (draft 1 April). What I am
      missing, is a transition period. If everyone implements it, and
      shuts down the WHOIS servers we have a problem. <br>
      <br>
      The resource records related to the RDAP service MUST be signed
      with DNSSEC, and the DNSSEC chain of trust from the root trust
      anchor to the name of the RDAP server MUST be valid at all times.<br>
      -Looks sensible, but I cannot find this in the RFC's mentioned, is
      the above language a result of this?<br>
      <br>
      In the case (i.e. uppercase and lowercase) of the data returned in
      RDAP responses SHOULD preserve the case received via EPP.<br>
      -TG- This needs to be specified perhaps for contact fields for
      example. As it, reads now you register ExAmPlE.com but you cannot
      return, example.com. Least that is how I read it. <br>
      <br>
      The domain object in the RDAP response MUST contain entities with
      the following roles. Exactly one entity per role MUST be present
      in the response.<br>
      -TG-Most gTLDs support more roles. Is there no support or does the
      policy ends this support for more roles?<br>
      <br>
      -RDAP does not support a country code for a contact, rather RDAP
      requires a full country name. <br>
      -TG- This, is a mapping nightmare, not everyone supports the
      official mapping, not sure how much work this is and will vary
      from Registrar to Registrar. <br>
      <br>
      If the queried domain name is allocated, the following applies: If
      allocated variant domain names exist for the queried domain name,
      or if the domain name is an allocated variant domain name, the
      domain object in the RDAP response MUST contain a variants member
      [RFC7483].<br>
      -TG- We do not store this, and it seems to contradict the
      following  in the profile :"The purpose of this profile is to
      specify the RDAP requirements that are in line with the current
      Whois service requirements."</p>
    <p>Best regards,</p>
    <p>Theo <br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24-9-2016 20:10, Dennis Chang wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Theo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is the
            first item on the agenda for the IRT meeting on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please keep
            the questions coming.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you could
            provide specifics on “irregularities within RDAP” and
            “clarification on a few issues” in advance, that will help
            us to prepare better for our team discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis
            Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="color:black">theo geurts <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">&lt;gtheo@xs4all.nl&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 1:16 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b>"Anderson, Marc"
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcanderson@verisign.com">&lt;mcanderson@verisign.com&gt;</a>, Dennis Chang
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org">&lt;dennis.chang@icann.org&gt;</a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">&lt;gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Proposed
              Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&amp;D Policy, RDAP and RySG
              Request for Reconsideration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dennis,<br>
          <br>
          This looks like the path forward, and I am supportive of the
          proposed path forward as a Registrar.<br>
          <br>
          Perhaps I am jumping the gun here, but how would this dialogue
          with the community take place?
          <br>
          Furthermore, how do we address irregularities within RDAP? Or
          get clarification on a few issues that I assume have not been
          discussed yet?<br>
          <br>
          Thanks, <br>
          <br>
          Theo <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 21-9-2016 19:58, Anderson, Marc wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you for the
              excellent explanation and details.  On behalf of Verisign
              and as a member of the RySG I would like to express my
              support for the revised CL&amp;D policy and the path
              forward you have laid out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Marc Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:42 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Proposed
                  Path Forward | Thick Whois CL&amp;D Policy, RDAP and
                  RySG Request for Reconsideration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear IRT members,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">As you know, on 7 February 2014, the
            ICANN Board adopted GNSO consensus policy recommendations
            regarding the provision of “Thick” Whois by all gTLD
            registries.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">In consultation with the consensus policy
            Implementation Review Team (IRT), the implementation team
            identified two expected outcomes in the policy development
            process (PDP) recommendations:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
            <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">The
              consistent labeling and display of WHOIS output for all
              gTLDs
              <o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">The
              transition from Thin to Thick WHOIS for .COM, .NET and
              .JOBS
              <o:p></o:p></li>
          </ul>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">The first outcome was published as a
            consensus policy, the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              Registration Data Directory Services Consistent Labeling
              and Display Policy[icann.org]</a> (CL&amp;D Policy), on 26
            July 2016.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">In August 2016, the Registry Stakeholder
            Group (RySG) submitted a
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              for Reconsideration[icann.org]</a> (RfR) regarding the
            CL&amp;D Policy. The RfR objects to the inclusion of RDAP as
            part of the Consensus Policy as RDAP was not contemplated or
            referenced in the policy recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">To resolve this matter, ICANN proposes
            the following path forward for the IRT:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">1. ICANN to issue a revised CL&amp;D
            Policy to all registry operators, removing provision 12. For
            your reference, provision 12 states: “The implementation of
            an RDAP service in accordance with the "<a
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              Operational Profile for gTLD Registries and
              Registrars[icann.org]</a>" is required for all gTLD
            registries in order to achieve consistent labeling and
            display.” Additionally, I have attached the proposed revised
            CL&amp;D Policy.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">2. Issue a revised notification to
            registry operators regarding implementation of the CL&amp;D
            Policy, clearly indicating what has changed in the revised
            CL&amp;D Policy.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">3. Set the revised CL&amp;D Policy
            effective date to allow for full 6-month implementation from
            the date of the revised notice.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">4. Update the published CL&amp;D Policy
            on the ICANN website, noting a change has been made. Note:
            The revised CL&amp;D Policy would
            <u>not</u> be subject to another Public Comment process.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">5. Rescind the notification sent to
            registrars to implement RDAP.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">ICANN intends to issue notices for
            registries and registrars to implement RDAP after further
            dialogue with the community.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Please let us know if you have comments
            or concerns by responding to this list. Unless we hear
            otherwise, we intend to move forward with the plan outlined
            above on 4 October 2016.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis S. Chang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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