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<p>+ Steve</p>
<p>Does that apply for Verisign though?</p>
<p>Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27-9-2016 17:35, Metalitz, Steven
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just a note that at
least a few registries have contractual obligations to
display billing contact data. E.g., .mobi,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/unthemed-pages/mobi-appendixs-2005-11-23-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/unthemed-pages/mobi-appendixs-2005-11-23-en</a>
(excerpt follows):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">WHOIS
Output Fields</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">Domain
Record:</span></b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">A WHOIS
query that results in domain information will return the
following fields from the Domain object and the associated
data from host and contact objects. This set of data is also
referred to as the Domain Record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Domain ID<br>
Domain Name<br>
Domain Status<br>
Registry Operating Registrar (IANA-assigned identifier)<br>
Registrant, Administrative, Technical and Billing Contact
Information including:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#88162E">Steven J.
Metalitz
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">|<b>
</b></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#88162E">Partner,
through his professional corporation<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">T: 202.355.7902 </span>
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style="color:black">met@msk.com</span></a></span><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#88162E"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#88162E">Mitchell
Silberberg & Knupp</span></b><span
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</span><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#88162E">LLP</span></b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Marc;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick
Whois Transition Policy draft v4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Theo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ll be sure
to add to the agenda.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For Section
2.2, if you could provide suggested language before the
meeting, I can have it for the IRT to review as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis
Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">"Anderson, Marc" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mcanderson@verisign.com">mcanderson@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org">dennis.chang@icann.org</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Thick Whois Transition Policy draft
v4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you for sending
out this updated version. In preparation for our upcoming
call I have a couple items.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Section
2.2 pertains to Registries providing an (alternative) bulk
method for the backfill of contact data. I’d like to
propose an update to the language in this section. Could I
have some time during the meeting to present?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">At the
last meeting I brought up the billing contact and agreed to
propose clarifying language. I suggest adding a section
2.11 that states:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The “Billing”
contact is optional. Registry Policy may define if it is
required, optional or not supported. If supported the
Billing contact information must be displayed as described
in the “Advisory: Clarifications to the Registry
Agreement, and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement
(RAA) regarding applicable Registration Data Directory
Service (Whois) Specifications” (section 22).</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d also like to get
the IRT’s thoughts on the Billing contact in general. My
sense is that no one is really concerned if the billing
contact is present or not and that in order to facilitate
the transition from thin to thick it would be easiest to not
include it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Finally,
can we add an agenda item to talk about Escrow of contact
data? It was a topic considered during the PDP
deliberations but we haven’t touched on it as part of the
IRT deliberations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Marc Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois
Transition Policy draft v4</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Thick
Whois IRT,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attached are
the Transition Policy drafts from our review this week. A
clean and redlined provided for your further review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Three key
updates are </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Adapted the alternate
definition of Thick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Incorporated the
requirements to the body of policy per sections rather than
the definition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">3)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Removed sections
referring to RDAP </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please
provide your comments prior to the meeting if possible so
that we may continue to discuss on line and prepare better
for the team meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agenda for
the next meeting will be provided to you in a separate email
which you may also comment on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Kind Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis S. Chang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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