<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Title" content="">
<meta name="Keywords" content="">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Courier New";
panose-1:2 7 3 9 2 2 5 2 4 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"맑은 고딕";}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#0563C1;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:#954F72;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;}
p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
{mso-style-priority:34;
margin-top:0in;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:Tahoma;}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle23
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle24
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:windowtext;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:Courier;}
span.EmailStyle27
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:Calibri;
color:windowtext;}
span.msoIns
{mso-style-type:export-only;
mso-style-name:"";
text-decoration:underline;
color:teal;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:379521559;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:1884459130 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1
{mso-list-id:1329791135;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:10506446 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;}
@list l1:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level3
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level4
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level5
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level6
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level7
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level8
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:o;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:"Courier New";}
@list l1:level9
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Wingdings;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style>
</head>
<body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I should have addressed my email to Marc, not Theo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Either way, I hope to see you soon in the AC Room.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>, "Anderson, Marc" <mcanderson@verisign.com>, "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p>I was wondering why Dennis was putting things for me on the agenda and asking me to suggest language :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Anyways, perhaps Marc and the rest of the IRT can agree with what I just sent and either discuss it or wait till folks I mentioned weigh in before we go discuss 2.2?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Theo <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 27-9-2016 19:13, theo geurts wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dennis,<br>
Maybe we are going the wrong way here and we mixing things.<br>
<br>
We discussed the alternative because it came up during a discussion within the RrSG. And I think Jennifer Gore mentioned this on the list.<br>
Now I think, but Chris Pelling can most likely bring some clarity here on why he proposed to use the RDE data for the migration, and I think but I am not sure, his reasoning was to speed things up. But I will let Chris weigh in on that one.<br>
<br>
But if that is the case and combine the fact that we also said not to use the RDE deposit approach as an alternative bulk method then we might want to backtrack on this alternative approach altogether.
<br>
<br>
I cannot come up with a good argument that justifies an alternative bulk method while the Registrar in question has to make the EPP modifications anyways (May 2018). But perhaps Jennifer can weigh in on this? I have a feeling that we are mixing a few conversations
and emails into requirements for no good reason.<br>
<br>
Theo <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 27-9-2016 17:12, Dennis Chang wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Theo,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ll be sure to add to the agenda.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For Section 2.2, if you could provide suggested language before the meeting, I can have it for the IRT to review as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis Chang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">"Anderson, Marc"
<a href="mailto:mcanderson@verisign.com"><mcanderson@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <a href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"><dennis.chang@icann.org></a>,
<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you for sending out this updated version. In preparation for our upcoming call I have a couple items.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Section 2.2 pertains to Registries providing an (alternative) bulk method for the backfill of contact data. I’d like to propose an update to the language in this section. Could I
have some time during the meeting to present?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">At the last meeting I brought up the billing contact and agreed to propose clarifying language. I suggest adding a section 2.11 that states:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The “Billing” contact is optional. Registry Policy may define if it is required, optional or not supported. If supported the Billing contact information must be
displayed as described in the “Advisory: Clarifications to the Registry Agreement, and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) regarding applicable Registration Data Directory Service (Whois) Specifications” (section 22).</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d also like to get the IRT’s thoughts on the Billing contact in general. My sense is that no one is really concerned if the billing contact is present or not and
that in order to facilitate the transition from thin to thick it would be easiest to not include it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Finally, can we add an agenda item to talk about Escrow of contact data? It was a topic considered during the PDP deliberations but we haven’t touched on it as part of the IRT deliberations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Marc Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Thick Whois IRT,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attached are the Transition Policy drafts from our review this week. A clean and redlined provided for your further review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Three key updates are </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Adapted the alternate definition of Thick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Incorporated the requirements to the body of policy per sections rather than the definition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Removed sections referring to RDAP </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please provide your comments prior to the meeting if possible so that we may continue to discuss on line and prepare better for the team meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agenda for the next meeting will be provided to you in a separate email which you may also comment on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">— </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Kind Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis S. Chang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">GDD Services & Engagement Program Director</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">+1 213 293 7889</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Skype: dennisSchang</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=_f3H3Pcml_qJDJloAyJpIVETJx00tS7PzbGeSwpiK_4&s=-jPEE6wRYHqfFNrPmqa8xGUQ6q7I9vMvdXKFVyFX_BE&e="><span style="font-size:10.5pt">www.icann.org</span>[icann.org]</a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">
"One World, One Internet"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>