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Hi Dennis,<br>
Maybe we are going the wrong way here and we mixing things.<br>
<br>
We discussed the alternative because it came up during a discussion
within the RrSG. And I think Jennifer Gore mentioned this on the
list.<br>
Now I think, but Chris Pelling can most likely bring some clarity
here on why he proposed to use the RDE data for the migration, and I
think but I am not sure, his reasoning was to speed things up. But I
will let Chris weigh in on that one.<br>
<br>
But if that is the case and combine the fact that we also said not
to use the RDE deposit approach as an alternative bulk method then
we might want to backtrack on this alternative approach altogether.
<br>
<br>
I cannot come up with a good argument that justifies an alternative
bulk method while the Registrar in question has to make the EPP
modifications anyways (May 2018). But perhaps Jennifer can weigh in
on this? I have a feeling that we are mixing a few conversations and
emails into requirements for no good reason.<br>
<br>
Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27-9-2016 17:12, Dennis Chang wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Theo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ll be sure
to add to the agenda.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For Section
2.2, if you could provide suggested language before the
meeting, I can have it for the IRT to review as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dennis
Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">"Anderson, Marc"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcanderson@verisign.com"><mcanderson@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"><dennis.chang@icann.org></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Thick Whois Transition Policy draft
v4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you for sending
out this updated version. In preparation for our upcoming
call I have a couple items.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Section 2.2 pertains
to Registries providing an (alternative) bulk method for the
backfill of contact data. I’d like to propose an update to
the language in this section. Could I have some time during
the meeting to present?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">At the last meeting I
brought up the billing contact and agreed to propose
clarifying language. I suggest adding a section 2.11 that
states:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The “Billing”
contact is optional. Registry Policy may define if it is
required, optional or not supported. If supported the
Billing contact information must be displayed as described
in the “Advisory: Clarifications to the Registry
Agreement, and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement
(RAA) regarding applicable Registration Data Directory
Service (Whois) Specifications” (section 22).</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d also like to get
the IRT’s thoughts on the Billing contact in general. My
sense is that no one is really concerned if the billing
contact is present or not and that in order to facilitate
the transition from thin to thick it would be easiest to not
include it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Finally, can we add
an agenda item to talk about Escrow of contact data? It was
a topic considered during the PDP deliberations but we
haven’t touched on it as part of the IRT deliberations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Marc Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois
Transition Policy draft v4</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Thick
Whois IRT,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attached are
the Transition Policy drafts from our review this week. A
clean and redlined provided for your further review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Three key
updates are </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Adapted the alternate
definition of Thick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Incorporated the
requirements to the body of policy per sections rather than
the definition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">3)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Removed sections
referring to RDAP </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please
provide your comments prior to the meeting if possible so
that we may continue to discuss on line and prepare better
for the team meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agenda for
the next meeting will be provided to you in a separate email
which you may also comment on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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