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<p>I was wondering why Dennis was putting things for me on the
agenda and asking me to suggest language :)</p>
<p>Anyways, perhaps Marc and the rest of the IRT can agree with what
I just sent and either discuss it or wait till folks I mentioned
weigh in before we go discuss 2.2?</p>
<p>Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27-9-2016 19:13, theo geurts wrote:<br>
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Hi Dennis,<br>
Maybe we are going the wrong way here and we mixing things.<br>
<br>
We discussed the alternative because it came up during a
discussion within the RrSG. And I think Jennifer Gore mentioned
this on the list.<br>
Now I think, but Chris Pelling can most likely bring some clarity
here on why he proposed to use the RDE data for the migration, and
I think but I am not sure, his reasoning was to speed things up.
But I will let Chris weigh in on that one.<br>
<br>
But if that is the case and combine the fact that we also said not
to use the RDE deposit approach as an alternative bulk method then
we might want to backtrack on this alternative approach
altogether. <br>
<br>
I cannot come up with a good argument that justifies an
alternative bulk method while the Registrar in question has to
make the EPP modifications anyways (May 2018). But perhaps
Jennifer can weigh in on this? I have a feeling that we are mixing
a few conversations and emails into requirements for no good
reason.<br>
<br>
Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27-9-2016 17:12, Dennis Chang
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Theo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ll be
sure to add to the agenda.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">For
Section 2.2, if you could provide suggested language
before the meeting, I can have it for the IRT to review as
well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">"Anderson, Marc" <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mcanderson@verisign.com"><mcanderson@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"><dennis.chang@icann.org></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Thick Whois Transition Policy draft
v4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times
New Roman""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dennis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you for
sending out this updated version. In preparation for our
upcoming call I have a couple items.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Section 2.2
pertains to Registries providing an (alternative) bulk
method for the backfill of contact data. I’d like to
propose an update to the language in this section. Could
I have some time during the meeting to present?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
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style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">At the last meeting
I brought up the billing contact and agreed to propose
clarifying language. I suggest adding a section 2.11 that
states:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The “Billing”
contact is optional. Registry Policy may define if it
is required, optional or not supported. If supported
the Billing contact information must be displayed as
described in the “Advisory: Clarifications to the
Registry Agreement, and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation
Agreement (RAA) regarding applicable Registration Data
Directory Service (Whois) Specifications” (section 22).</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d also like to
get the IRT’s thoughts on the Billing contact in general.
My sense is that no one is really concerned if the billing
contact is present or not and that in order to facilitate
the transition from thin to thick it would be easiest to
not include it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Finally, can we add
an agenda item to talk about Escrow of contact data? It
was a topic considered during the PDP deliberations but we
haven’t touched on it as part of the IRT deliberations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Marc Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois
Transition Policy draft v4</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Thick
Whois IRT,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attached
are the Transition Policy drafts from our review this
week. A clean and redlined provided for your further
review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Three key
updates are </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Adapted
the alternate definition of Thick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Incorporated
the requirements to the body of policy per sections rather
than the definition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">3)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman""> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Removed
sections referring to RDAP </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please
provide your comments prior to the meeting if possible so
that we may continue to discuss on line and prepare better
for the team meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agenda for
the next meeting will be provided to you in a separate
email which you may also comment on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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