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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hello Steve and Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Deletion of paragraph 12 is the only change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Attached is the email I sent out on 21 September with the redlined document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We’ll have it uploaded to the IRT wiki page also for future reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Please do provide your reply to the group upon your review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Dennis Chang</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"Metalitz, Steven" <met@msk.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>, Joyce Lin <jlin@007names.com>, gtheo <gtheo@xs4all.nl>, Chris Pelling <chris@netearth.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>CL &D policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Dennis,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">The link you put in the chat on today’s call (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_rdds-2Dlabeling-2Dpolicy-2D2016-2D07-2D26-2Den&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=Ub-aioeQ88YNeOPLZBMMYhXdnc3w-YdkW1Cy5dH_OqA&s=MVoTjuOHBRikCKYDzETYVB1eJeWau-NB96IB6V4jNT4&e=">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rdds-labeling-policy-2016-07-26-en[icann.org]</a>)
is to the CL&D policy as originally posted in July. I was asking about the revised policy that you asked every single person on the call today to approve. Can you send me the link to that? As I noted it does not appear on the wiki page (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_TWCPI_Documentation&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=dqLP1wJqBvDSYLKrSEaAkCi_Kv0Mk5D_d32n29DHCN8&m=Ub-aioeQ88YNeOPLZBMMYhXdnc3w-YdkW1Cy5dH_OqA&s=3JCHGvA_5F3DiMF4IL-vXs0JvmQgP5_rMdvCNJSTMiI&e=">https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/Documentation[community.icann.org]</a>
). Is there any change to the posted policy other than to drop paragraph 12? Thanks.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis Chang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joyce Lin; gtheo; Chris Pelling<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Alternative method: Re: Questions from last meeting, Alternative method and some comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Separating the email trail for Alternative method.<br>
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Hi Joyce,<br>
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To be clear, as you say <br>
“registry go ahead to have the alternative mechanism available by Aug. 1, 2017 regardless”<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>is the intention.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
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</span>The reason being that Chris has confirmed the need for it along with other registrars already.<br>
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Thanks<br>
Dennis Chang<br>
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On 10/4/16, 9:35 AM, "Joyce Lin" <<a href="mailto:jlin@007names.com">jlin@007names.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi Dennis,<br>
<br>
If you meant to drop 2.2 completely, your combined paragraph states that by <br>
August 1, 2017 the registry's EPP and alternative bulk transfer have to be <br>
deployed<br>
<br>
> 2.1. Registry Operator MUST deploy an EPP mechanism and an alternative <br>
> bulk transfer mechanism by 1 August 2017 for registrars to migrate <br>
> registration data for Existing Domain Names...<br>
<br>
Then what is the deadline for those registrars who need to use alternative <br>
bulk transfer option to apply ? Don't we need a separate deadline for <br>
those registrars to apply so the registry can tell if there is indeed a need <br>
to develop and deploy the alternative mechanism? Or do we want the <br>
registry go ahead to have the alternative mechanism available by Aug. 1, <br>
2017 regardless?<br>
<br>
<br>
Joyce<br>
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----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: "Dennis Chang" <<a href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org">dennis.chang@icann.org</a>><br>
To: "gtheo" <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>>; "Chris Pelling" <<a href="mailto:chris@netearth.net">chris@netearth.net</a>><br>
Cc: <<a href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 12:56 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Questions from last meeting, <br>
Alternative method and some comments.<br>
<br>
<br>
> Thanks Chris for following through on your action regarding the Registrar’s <span style="font-family:PMingLiU">
<br>
</span>> request for the alternative solution.<br>
> Since your email to the IRT satisfies the triggers for the “request” in <span style="font-family:PMingLiU">
<br>
</span>> section 2.2,<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> We can simplify the policy by combining 2.2 with 2.1 using the same date.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> Btw, 1 August 2017 provides the 6-month duration that Marc had requested
<br>
> for development.<br>
><br>
> Below if my proposed change.<br>
><br>
> From:<br>
> 2.1. Registry Operator MUST deploy an EPP mechanism by 1 August 2017 for <br>
> registrars to migrate registration data for Existing Domain Names (i.e., <br>
> transition from Thin to Thick).<br>
> 2.2. Registry Operator MUST upon request provide an alternative bulk <br>
> transfer mechanism by 1 February 2018 for registrars to migrate data for <br>
> Existing Domain Names (i.e., transition from Thin to Thick). The request <br>
> MUST be made by 1 August 2017.<br>
><br>
> To:<br>
> 2.1. Registry Operator MUST deploy an EPP mechanism and an alternative <br>
> bulk transfer mechanism by 1 August 2017 for registrars to migrate <br>
> registration data for Existing Domain Names (i.e., transition from Thin to <br>
> Thick).<br>
><br>
><br>
> As for your question about the draft privacy memo to GNSO Council, the IRT <br>
> had agreed the implementation project will continue in parallel to any <br>
> activity related to the memo. This was agreed upon when the subject was <br>
> broached at the Helsinki ICANN meeting and again in subsequent meetings. <br>
> Our plan to continue with the implementation work including the Public <br>
> Comment has not changed. It is the goal of our implementation team to <br>
> press forward as best we can to meet the 1 February 2017 Announcement Date <br>
> per the project schedule we’ve agreed upon.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>><span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> Thanks for your support and look forward to our meeting tommorrow.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> Dennis Chang<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>><span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
</span>> On 10/3/16, 5:11 AM, "gtheo" <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thanks Chris, for posting on the RrSG distribution list and engage with<br>
> our members.<br>
><br>
> Theo<br>
><br>
> Chris Pelling schreef op 2016-10-02 01:46 PM:<br>
> > Good afternoon all,<br>
> ><br>
> > First and foremost we have had ten registrars (including myself)<br>
> > interested in the alternative solution, so day one there will be at<br>
> > least 1 triggering it - as that will be me.<br>
> > This being just the RrSG folks, once ICANN reach out to all registrar<br>
> > from GDD, I am positive you will find more. But, as mentioned - I <br>
> have<br>
> > had active requests for the alternative to be created.<br>
> ><br>
> > Further questions:<br>
> ><br>
> > 1. The Verisign/GNSO memo, does this need to go directly to GNSO, or,<br>
> > via ICANN legal first, I assume this will happen before the public<br>
> > comment period?<br>
> ><br>
> > 2. Alan G. said that a legal review by ICANN legal is needed (I<br>
> > mentioned to include EU lawyers) because the original legal review in<br>
> > 2015 did not include Safe Harbor, nor contemplating that Safe Harbor<br>
> > would be invalidated, where are we on this and I assume this will<br>
> > happen before the public comment period?<br>
> ><br>
> > 3. Implementation notes state there is a procedure for handling whois<br>
> > conflicts. However, the current method for handling WHOIS conflicts <br>
> is<br>
> > not working, and the WHOIS IAG version is at the GNSO and still does<br>
> > not include an effective procedure as EU privacy regulators are not<br>
> > giving statements to trigger the procedure. So this kind of sits at <br>
> a<br>
> > stalemate, is ICANN going to remove this? (I would assume they can't,<br>
> > but we do need more info/guidance)<br>
> ><br>
> > The above points 1 and 2, will these happen before the public comment<br>
> > period or after? Please note if you state afterwards, we are all<br>
> > potentially sitting here wasting time, as once those 2 legals come<br>
> > back, it is more than likely we will all end up reviewing those and<br>
> > going for a second public comment period based on new findings and<br>
> > changes to existing work - I am just trying to save time here (and<br>
> > everyone's sanity) :-)<br>
> ><br>
> > Kind regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Chris<br>
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