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<div>These contract issues may be beyond the IRT scope but the timeline changes I think are well within scope and need to be discussed. </div>
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<div>Roger</div>
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<div>From: Theo Geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl> </div>
<div>Date: 6/24/17 9:12 PM (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>To: Roger D Carney <rcarney@godaddy.com>, Dennis Chang <dennis.chang@icann.org>, gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org
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<div>Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] IRT meeting at ICANN59? </div>
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<tt>Roger, Dennis, </tt><tt><br>
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</tt><tt>I understand why we would want to discuss this as an IRT. </tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>We, the IRT folks put in a lot of blood and sweat and tears into this, I know I did.</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>But, this has become a contractual issue now and outside the scope of the IRT address.</tt><tt><br>
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</tt><tt>Best regards, </tt><tt><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 24-6-2017 om 21:13 schreef Roger D Carney:<br>
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<div>I think that it would be good to meet if we can.</div>
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<div>From: Dennis Chang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org">
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<div>Date: 6/24/17 7:48 PM (GMT+00:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] IRT meeting at ICANN59? </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Dear IRT,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please let me know if you’d like an IRT meeting during ICANN59 to discuss this subject or others.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">I can ask for a conference room for those of us to come together and provide remote access if we need it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Dennis Chang</span><span style=""></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Dennis Chang
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 6:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
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<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] FW: Verisign request to extend Thick Whois Implementation Date</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Dear Thick IRT,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Forwarding an email from Karla regarding Versign’s request for extension of the 1 August 2017.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Dennis Chang</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Karla Hakansson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:karla.hakansson@icann.org">
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org">
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<b>Cc: </b>Cyrus Namazi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cyrus.namazi@icann.org">
<cyrus.namazi@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Verisign request to extend Thick Whois Implementation Date</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Hello Dennis, </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please communicate the following update to the Thick Whois IRT:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">In the process of implementing the Thick Whois Policy for .com and .net, Verisign proposed certain Amendments to the COM/NET Registry Registrar Agreement (RRA) to fulfill their obligation to begin accepting Thick Whois data
from the registrars beginning 1 August 2017. Per the <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rra-amendment-procedure-25aug11-en.pdf">
published process</a>, ICANN forwarded the proposed RRA Amendments to the Registrar Stakeholder Group (RrSG) on 29 March 2017 to review and provide comments. On 21 April 2017 the RrSG formally objected to the proposed Amendment stating:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">“…the .com/.net amendments have raised serious questions in the RrSG around how we'll operate and interact with .com/.net under the upcoming European GDPR,
and we feel we need clarity on these issues before the amendments can be accepted.</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Indeed, the RrSG is now looking towards the impact of the GDPR on the 1000s of registries we regularly work with, and it's clear that we need to ensure we
have more clarity and understanding, as well as a solution for data handling that will work across ALL registries.”</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Following this communication, the RrSG submitted a letter to ICANN and Verisign on 4 May 2017 requesting Verisign to modify its proposed Amendment, and for ICANN to create a data protection policy in support of the RAA for
both registries and registrars. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Since the 4 May 2017 communication ICANN has facilitated multiple discussions between Verisign and the RrSG in an attempt to resolve the outstanding issues with the RRA Amendments. The goal of those discussions has been to
resolve the concerns about the proposed RRA Amendments so they can be in place by 1 July 2017. This deadline is imposed by Verisign to provide registrars with a thirty-day period in order for changes to the RRA to become effective before Verisign begins accepting
Thick Whois data in their production environment. As of 21 June 2017, the RRA Amendment has not been accepted by the RrSG. ICANN strives for consensus whenever possible before approving RRA amendments, and without further discussions, is not prepared to approve
an RRA amendment that the RrSG has rejected.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">On 20 June 2017 <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence">
Verisign formally submitted a request to ICANN</a> to extend the 1 August 2017 Thick Whois implementation enforcement date by at least 120 days, or 29 November 2017. The extension request, currently under review, is not expected to compromise the 1 May 2018
Thick Whois deadline for all new .COM and .NET registrations or the 1 February 2019 deadline for the completion of the Thick Whois transition.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please let me know if you have any questions.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Karla Hakansson</span></b></p>
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