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I somewhat disagree there Roger, in my opinion we are dealing with a
larger issue here. <br>
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But I do agree that timeline wise it is not bad to discuss this
within an IRT setting, if only for practical reasons for contrracted
parties. <br>
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Dennis, can you book us a room, Wednesday or Thursday would be good,
as the schedule is pretty packed the first two days.<br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
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Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 24-6-2017 om 22:32 schreef Roger D
Carney:<br>
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<div>These contract issues may be beyond the IRT scope but the
timeline changes I think are well within scope and need to be
discussed. </div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Roger</div>
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<div>From: Theo Geurts <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl"><gtheo@xs4all.nl></a> </div>
<div>Date: 6/24/17 9:12 PM (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>To: Roger D Carney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rcarney@godaddy.com"><rcarney@godaddy.com></a>, Dennis Chang
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"><dennis.chang@icann.org></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org">gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a>
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<div>Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] IRT meeting at
ICANN59? </div>
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<tt>Roger, Dennis, </tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>I understand why we would want to discuss this as an
IRT. </tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>We, the IRT folks put in a lot of blood and sweat and
tears into this, I know I did.</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>But, this has become a contractual issue now and
outside the scope of the IRT address.</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>Best regards, </tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>Theo Geurts</tt><br>
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D Carney:<br>
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<div>I think that it would be good to meet if we can.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Roger</div>
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<div>From: Dennis Chang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<dennis.chang@icann.org></a> </div>
<div>Date: 6/24/17 7:48 PM (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org</a> </div>
<div>Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] IRT meeting at
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Dear IRT,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please let me know if
you’d like an IRT meeting during ICANN59 to discuss
this subject or others.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">I can ask for a
conference room for those of us to come together and
provide remote access if we need it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;
color:black">Thanks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;
color:black">Dennis Chang</span><span style=""></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"><a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org></a>
on behalf of Dennis Chang
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dennis.chang@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 6:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">"gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org"
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<gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] FW:
Verisign request to extend Thick Whois
Implementation Date</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Dear Thick IRT,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Forwarding an email
from Karla regarding Versign’s request for extension
of the 1 August 2017.</span></p>
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color:black">Thanks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;
color:black">Dennis Chang</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Karla
Hakansson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:karla.hakansson@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<karla.hakansson@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dennis Chang <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<dennis.chang@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Cyrus Namazi <a
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<cyrus.namazi@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Verisign request to extend Thick
Whois Implementation Date</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Hello Dennis, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please communicate the
following update to the Thick Whois IRT:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">In the process of
implementing the Thick Whois Policy for .com and .net,
Verisign proposed certain Amendments to the COM/NET
Registry Registrar Agreement (RRA) to fulfill their
obligation to begin accepting Thick Whois data from
the registrars beginning 1 August 2017. Per the <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rra-amendment-procedure-25aug11-en.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">
published process</a>, ICANN forwarded the proposed
RRA Amendments to the Registrar Stakeholder Group
(RrSG) on 29 March 2017 to review and provide
comments. On 21 April 2017 the RrSG formally objected
to the proposed Amendment stating:</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri
Light",sans-serif">“…the .com/.net amendments
have raised serious questions in the RrSG around how
we'll operate and interact with .com/.net under the
upcoming European GDPR, and we feel we need clarity
on these issues before the amendments can be
accepted.</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span
style="font-family:"Calibri
Light",sans-serif">Indeed, the RrSG is now
looking towards the impact of the GDPR on the 1000s
of registries we regularly work with, and it's clear
that we need to ensure we have more clarity and
understanding, as well as a solution for data
handling that will work across ALL registries.”</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Following this
communication, the RrSG submitted a letter to ICANN
and Verisign on 4 May 2017 requesting Verisign to
modify its proposed Amendment, and for ICANN to create
a data protection policy in support of the RAA for
both registries and registrars. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Since the 4 May 2017
communication ICANN has facilitated multiple
discussions between Verisign and the RrSG in an
attempt to resolve the outstanding issues with the RRA
Amendments. The goal of those discussions has been to
resolve the concerns about the proposed RRA Amendments
so they can be in place by 1 July 2017. This deadline
is imposed by Verisign to provide registrars with a
thirty-day period in order for changes to the RRA to
become effective before Verisign begins accepting
Thick Whois data in their production environment. As
of 21 June 2017, the RRA Amendment has not been
accepted by the RrSG. ICANN strives for consensus
whenever possible before approving RRA amendments, and
without further discussions, is not prepared to
approve an RRA amendment that the RrSG has rejected.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">On 20 June 2017 <a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence"
moz-do-not-send="true">
Verisign formally submitted a request to ICANN</a>
to extend the 1 August 2017 Thick Whois implementation
enforcement date by at least 120 days, or 29 November
2017. The extension request, currently under review,
is not expected to compromise the 1 May 2018 Thick
Whois deadline for all new .COM and .NET registrations
or the 1 February 2019 deadline for the completion of
the Thick Whois transition.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Please let me know if
you have any questions.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Karla
Hakansson</span></b></p>
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Registry Services</span></p>
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