From randruff at rnapartners.com Tue Feb 4 18:13:39 2014 From: randruff at rnapartners.com (Ron Andruff) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:13:39 -0500 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Origin of the GNSO Council request to review the existing Consensus Levels Message-ID: <009501cf21d4$d6748ea0$835dabe0$@rnapartners.com> +1 Mary. Very helpful. Thank you, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Cintra Sooknanan Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 15:12 To: Mary Wong Cc: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Actions from 28 January SCI Meeting Thank you Mary The content and structure of this document is quite useful. Regards Cintra On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Mary Wong > wrote: Dear SCI members, As requested, staff has prepared a background briefing document on the origin of the GNSO Council request for the SCI to review the existing Consensus Levels in the current WG Guidelines. The attached document lays out the creation, timelines and deliverables of the IGO-INGO PDP WG as well as the community context it was working in and the origin of the SCI request. It also includes the specific language in the WG Final Report relating to the request, links to relevant meeting transcripts and recordings, and a number of options for the SCI to consider. I hope this is helpful to Thomas, Cintra and Amr in their sub-group discussions and more generally to the whole SCI. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong at icann.org * One World. One Internet. * From: Julie Hedlund > Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:23 PM To: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org " > Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Actions from 28 January SCI Meeting Dear SCI members, Please see below the actions from the 28 January meeting. These also have been posted to the wiki page for our next meeting on 11 February at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2013. 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. Staff will locate links to transcripts for the SCI members to review as background. The sub team addressing the issue is Amr, Cintra, Greg, and Thomas. 2. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. The sub team addressing this issue is Greg and Marie-Laure. 3. Voting by email: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. 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RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:52 To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Email Voting: Absentee Ballots Dear SCI members, Glen de Saint G?ry has helpfully provided to me information about how absentee ballots are conducted. She notes that absentee ballots occur very rarely now since there is provision for proxy voting and temporary alternates. The ballots are always sent by email. Glen notes that email ballots have worked well and there have been only two cases ever of people not responding, not voting and in both cases it made no difference to the results. Glen also noted that there was a time when there was an extra step whereby absent councilors were asked to send in a request for a ballot, but this step was removed as cumbersome because of the short time span 72 hours to vote (and even a shorter window if the chair so decided) and different time zones. So the absent Councillors are simply sent the absentee ballot directly after the meeting. Glen added that the last time they used the absentee ballots was during the 31 October 2013 Council meeting for the Adoption of the Thick Whois Policy Development Process. She has sent a sample ballot below. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director The absentee ballots look like this: Dear [Name of Councilor], Pursuant to the GNSO Council Operating Procedures section 4.4 Absentee Voting Procedures http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-op-procedures-07apr11-en.pdf absentee voting is allowed on the motion re: INSERT TITLE. Your absentee ballot follows. Please indicate your preference with an X and send the lines preceded with *asterisks directly to the GNSO Council Mailing list. * On the motion I vote: * [ ] Yes * [ ] No * [ ] Abstain * Password: Green-5 This process should be completed within 72 hours of the meeting which ended at 13:05 UTC on [Date of Meeting]. (Completed ballots are due NLT 13:05 UTC, [Date]) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julie.hedlund at icann.org Mon Feb 10 15:51:55 2014 From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:51:55 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Updates/Actions from 28 January SCI Meeting Message-ID: Dear SCI members, Please see below the actions and updates from the 28 January meeting. These also have been posted to the wiki page for our next meeting on 11 February at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2013. 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. Staff will locate links to transcripts for the SCI members to review as background. The sub team addressing the issue is Amr, Cintra, Greg, and Thomas. UPDATE: Mary Wong produced a background document that she sent to the list and posted to the wiki. 2. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. The sub team addressing this issue is Greg and Marie-Laure. 3. Voting by email: The SCI will continue discussion on this issue. Staff is checking with the GNSO Secretariat as to current method used for absentee voting (i.e. general email or actual electronic ballot). The sub team working on this issue is Anne, Avri, and Thomas. UDATE: Staff confirmed that the current method used for absentee voting is via email ballot. 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Current Status: As required by the ICANN Bylaws, a public comment forum is hereby initiated on the proposed changes prior to GNSO Council consideration. Next Steps: Following the closing of the public comment forum, the SCI will review the comments received; revise its recommendations, if deemed appropriate, and; submit these to the GNSO Council for approval. Staff Contact: Julie Hedlund Email Staff Contact Detailed Information Section I: Description, Explanation, and Purpose: The Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI) was established by the GNSO Council on 7 April 2011 as a standing committee of the GNSO, responsible for reviewing and assessing the effective functioning of the GNSO Operating Procedures and Working Group Guidelines. As part of its charter, the SCI is tasked to consider requests concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group Guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council as needing discussion. This public comment forum is being opened in relation to two proposed changes to the GNSO Operating Procedures being recommended by the SCI. The current GNSO Operating Procedures do not contain a specific provision on the possibility of resubmitting a motion for voting by the GNSO Council. In addition, the current GNSO Working Group Guidelines, which form Annex I of the GNSO Operating Procedures, do not contain a mechanism for WGs to self-assess their work. As a result, the GNSO Council requested that the SCI consider whether there should be a modification to the GNSO Council Operating Procedures to address the issue of the resubmission of a motion. In addition, the GNSO Council asked the SCI to develop a survey that WGs could use to perform a self-assessment once their work is complete. Accordingly, the SCI developed procedures to be inserted in Section 4.3 (Motions and Votes) of the GNSO Operating Procedures that provide for the resubmission of a motion to the GNSO Council for consideration at a subsequent meeting of the Council, if three criteria are followed: 1) providing of an explanation for the resubmission; 2) timely publication of the resubmitted motion, and 3) seconding of the resubmitted motion by a Councilor from each of the two GNSO Houses. The proposed new procedures also include limitations and exceptions for the resubmission of a motion concerning the timing of its submission, disallowing any material changes to the original motion, and clarifying that a previously-submitted motion not voted upon by the GNSO Council is considered a new motion (and not resubmitted) if it is brought before the GNSO Council again. Please see the redlined version of Section 4.3 of the GNSO Operating Procedures [PDF, 148 KB]. In addition, the SCI developed and tested a WG self-assessment questionnaire, as a result of which the SCI is recommending that procedures for administering the self-assessment be added as a new Section 7.0 to the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, which form Annex I of the GNSO Operating Procedures. In the self-assessment questionnaire WG members are asked a series of questions about the WG processes and outputs. ICANN staff is required to monitor responses to the questionnaire, close the questionnaire when all WG members have completed it, and provide a summary of responses to the WG Chair. Please see the redlined version of Annex I to the GNSO Operating Procedures [PDF, 242 KB]. As required by the ICANN Bylaws, the SCI is requesting community input on these proposed modifications to the GNSO Operating Procedures. Section II: Background: The Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI) was established by the GNSO Council on 7 April 2011 as a standing committee of the GNSO, responsible for reviewing and assessing the effective functioning of the GNSO Operating Procedures and Working Group Guidelines. As part of its charter, the SCI is tasked to consider requests concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group Guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council as needing discussion. The SCI operates on the basis of the GNSO WG Guidelines, and its recommendations are made based on Full Consensus of the SCI on the proposals under consideration. Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and Constituency appoints a representative to the SCI. Other members of the SCI include a Nominating Committee appointee and an observer from any GNSO constituency-in-formation (if any). The SCI may also appoint observers from other ICANN Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committee. For further information about the SCI and its activities, please see https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/Home. Section III: Document and Resource Links: Current version of the GNSO Council Operating Procedures - see GNSO Operating Procedures v2.7 (13 June 2013) [PDF, 556 KB]. Section IV: Additional Information: Not applicable ________________________________ (*) Comments submitted after the posted Close Date/Time are not guaranteed to be considered in any final summary, analysis, reporting, or decision-making that takes place once this period lapses. Glen de Saint G?ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. 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Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: > > - Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting > as more time is needed to review and discuss. > - Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should > it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of > this section also open for consideration. > - SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on > a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / > questions in relation to this section. > - Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide > context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications > to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for > the other designations. > - Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this > situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs > in relation to the decision-making designations. > > 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. > > 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. > > 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 > March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. 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URL: From Glen at icann.org Tue Feb 11 22:09:58 2014 From: Glen at icann.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Glen_de_Saint_G=E9ry?=) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:09:58 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 11 February 2014 Message-ID: Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 11 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC. http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140211-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Alternate Anne Aikman Scalese - Intellectual Property Constituency - Primary Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC Alternative Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Avri Doria - Non Commercial SG - Primary - Vice-Chair Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary - SCI Vice Chair Amr Elsadr - NCUC Alternate Apologies: Thomas Rickert Julie Hedlund Mary Wong ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Glen de Saint G?ry ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G?ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org Adobe Chat Transcript 11 February 2014 Marika Konings:Welcome to the SCI meeting of 11 February 2014 Ron A:Nice to see you Glen and Marika Ron A:just dialing in now... Marie-laure Lemineur:Hello Cintra Sooknanan1:Hello everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:Jamaica has a bob sled team! Marika Konings:Actually just noticed that Germany has pushed us to the 4th place now :-(( Marika Konings:We'll need some more skating medals obviously ;-) Ron A:Still some days to go Marika! ;o) Cintra Sooknanan1:Thanks so much for the dial out Glen Glen de Saint Gery:my pleasure, sorry we had the wrong number Cintra! Cintra Sooknanan1:it was my mistake, but all good Amr Elsadr:Sorry I'm late. Dialling in now. Avri Doria:seems lik we should alwasy worry about making sense. Avri Doria:are we really openning this again? Avri Doria:we only have 1 level of full consensus, and one level of near consensus,. all the others are not consensus at all. Avri Doria:and we call near consensus gnso consensus Avri Doria:i can speak, but my point is tangential Ron A:@ AVri: please do speak Anne Aikman-Scalese:The SCI could consider the following potential actions:* Add a new Consensus Level defining "Consensus Against" to the GNSO WG Guidelines* Without adding a new Consensus Level, clarify that the existing definition/description of "Consensus" includes situations appropriately determined to be "Consensus Against"* In either case, determine if the current "Divergence" level needs to be amended, e.g.:- Does "Divergence" always equate to "No Consensus"?- Does "Divergence" always mean there is a plurality of views?- Does the current definition/description of "Divergence" require clarification or amendment?* Determine that the current Consensus Levels are adequate to cover even the situation experienced by the IGO-INGO PDP WG. Ron A:@ Avri: good clarification of levels Marika Konings:From the SCI Charter: On a periodic timescale for all procedures and guidelines in order to identify possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which procedures and guidelines should be reviewed) Marie-laure Lemineur:Cintra could you please speak louder or closer to the mic Marie-laure Lemineur:please? Marika Konings:which was preceded by: 'Its tasks include making recommendations' Amr Elsadr:@Avri + Marika: Yes..., the proposed changes on this excercise should probably address all the levels of consensus/decision-making, not just full consensus. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Is the straw poll a voting member or everyone? Marika Konings:@ Amr - if the SCI decides that changes are necessary... Avri Doria:poll question makes not sense to me. i think it is broader that consensus against, but not as wide as the kettle of fish. Avri Doria:call it just decsions making level and not consensusus against and i will understand Anne Aikman-Scalese:Not my intent -but how caqn you avoid it if you are looking at them relatively? Amr Elsadr:I just changed from and X to a check. Good thing Ron clarified what the X and check would be for. :) Amr Elsadr:*an X Marie-laure Lemineur:but narrow approach as a first step and than open at a later stage ? Marie-laure Lemineur:open discussion Avri Doria:a binary decsion ofn a multi-part decsion is bound to be problematic. 1 just consensus against, 2 negation of any of the decision level, 3 review of the over decsion making procedures in all their glory, 4, review of the wg guidelines Avri Doria:3. review of the other decsions making procedures in all their glory Avri Doria:i favor 2 or 3 Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Thanks. Great recommendation to move forward. Avri Doria:i do not think i am on the sub team Cintra Sooknanan1:all good thanks for the direction Amr Elsadr:Will this be a closed or open meeting? Wolf Knoben:open Amr Elsadr:Thanks Wolf. I ask because it wasn't posted on the schedule of the BA meeting. I wasn't sure. Marika Konings:in two weeks, next meeting would be 25 February Amr Elsadr:Ah! Thanks. :) Anne Aikman-Scalese:THank you everyone! Marie-laure Lemineur:Thank you Ron and everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:thanks have a great day Cintra Sooknanan1:bye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julie.hedlund at icann.org Mon Feb 24 14:14:49 2014 From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 06:14:49 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting Message-ID: Dear All, As a reminder please find below the action items and notes from Marika Konings from the call on 11 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled for TOMORROW, Tuesday 25 February at 20.00 UTC. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting ? 11 February 2014 Actions: 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: * Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting as more time is needed to review and discuss. * Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. 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Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels (sub team: Amr, Cintra, Greg, Thomas) (15 mins) 3. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures (sub team: Greg, Marie-Laure) (15 mins) 4. Voting by Email: (sub team: Anne, Avri, Thomas) (15 mins) 5. Preparation for Singapore F2F meeting (7 mins) 6. AOB (5 mins) From: Ron Andruff Date: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:51 AM To: Julie Hedlund Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting Thank you for this reminder and summary, Julie. Could you send another note listing the sub-committee teams for the other agenda items so that they are on notice that they need to be prepared for the call? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 09:15 To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting Dear All, As a reminder please find below the action items and notes from Marika Konings from the call on 11 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled for TOMORROW, Tuesday 25 February at 20.00 UTC. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting ? 11 February 2014 Actions: 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: * Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting as more time is needed to review and discuss. * Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. 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Name: GNSO Consensus Levels Revision by the SCI.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 92276 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aelsadr at egyptig.org Tue Feb 25 18:53:43 2014 From: aelsadr at egyptig.org (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:53:43 +0100 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC Message-ID: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> Hi again, It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I?ve cced him on this email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? Thanks. Amr From Glen at icann.org Tue Feb 25 18:52:51 2014 From: Glen at icann.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Glen_de_Saint_G=E9ry?=) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:52:51 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC In-Reply-To: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> References: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Dear Amr, David cake has been added to the mailing list. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen -----Message d'origine----- De?: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] De la part de Amr Elsadr Envoy??: mardi 25 f?vrier 2014 19:54 ??: Cc?: David Cake Objet?: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC Hi again, It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I've cced him on this email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? Thanks. Amr From randruff at rnapartners.com Tue Feb 25 19:02:39 2014 From: randruff at rnapartners.com (Ron Andruff) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:02:39 -0500 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Revision to GNSO Decision-Making Designations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <043401cf325c$28f245e0$7ad6d1a0$@rnapartners.com> Thanks Amr, to you and the sub-team, for getting this to the list in anticipation of our call today. Kind regards, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 13:33 To: Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Revision to GNSO Decision-Making Designations Hi All, Here is an early draft reflecting possible revisions to the decision-making levels in the GNSO. Although the sub-team (including Greg, Cintra, Thomas and myself) is still not completely settled on this, we thought sharing it at this point for the purpose of discussion with the rest of the committee might be a good idea. Thanks. Amr From randruff at rnapartners.com Tue Feb 25 19:04:01 2014 From: randruff at rnapartners.com (Ron Andruff) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:04:01 -0500 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC In-Reply-To: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> References: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <043501cf325c$5a414240$0ec3c6c0$@rnapartners.com> Thanks Amr. Welcome David! Our SCI staff support is excellent, so I am sure that the needful will be taken care of promptly. Kind regards, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 13:54 To: Cc: David Cake Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC Hi again, It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I've cced him on this email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? Thanks. Amr From julie.hedlund at icann.org Tue Feb 25 19:09:34 2014 From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:09:34 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC In-Reply-To: References: <7BF56C94-0335-4599-9C2C-00A9A793EAA1@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Dear Amr, David Cake has been added to the wiki. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director On 2/25/14 1:52 PM, "Glen de Saint G?ry" wrote: > >Dear Amr, > >David cake has been added to the mailing list. > >Thank you. >Kind regards, > >Glen > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org >[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] De la part de Amr Elsadr >Envoy? : mardi 25 f?vrier 2014 19:54 >? : >Cc : David Cake >Objet : [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC > > >Hi again, > >It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you >all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the >alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I've cced him on this >email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the >necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? > >Thanks. > >Amr > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5041 bytes Desc: not available URL: From julie.hedlund at icann.org Tue Feb 25 19:10:19 2014 From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:10:19 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Revision to GNSO Decision-Making Designations In-Reply-To: <043401cf325c$28f245e0$7ad6d1a0$@rnapartners.com> References: <043401cf325c$28f245e0$7ad6d1a0$@rnapartners.com> Message-ID: Dear Amr, I have added the document to the Adobe Connect room. Best regards, Julie On 2/25/14 2:02 PM, "Ron Andruff" wrote: > >Thanks Amr, to you and the sub-team, for getting this to the list in >anticipation of our call today. > >Kind regards, > >RA > >Ron Andruff >RNA Partners >www.rnapartners.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org >[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 13:33 >To: >Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Revision to GNSO Decision-Making >Designations > >Hi All, > >Here is an early draft reflecting possible revisions to the >decision-making >levels in the GNSO. Although the sub-team (including Greg, Cintra, Thomas >and myself) is still not completely settled on this, we thought sharing it >at this point for the purpose of discussion with the rest of the committee >might be a good idea. > >Thanks. > >Amr > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Amr On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Julie Hedlund wrote: > Dear Amr, > > I have added the document to the Adobe Connect room. > > Best regards, > Julie > > On 2/25/14 2:02 PM, "Ron Andruff" wrote: > >> >> Thanks Amr, to you and the sub-team, for getting this to the list in >> anticipation of our call today. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> RA >> >> Ron Andruff >> RNA Partners >> www.rnapartners.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org >> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 13:33 >> To: >> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Revision to GNSO Decision-Making >> Designations >> >> Hi All, >> >> Here is an early draft reflecting possible revisions to the >> decision-making >> levels in the GNSO. Although the sub-team (including Greg, Cintra, Thomas >> and myself) is still not completely settled on this, we thought sharing it >> at this point for the purpose of discussion with the rest of the committee >> might be a good idea. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> From terri.agnew at icann.org Tue Feb 25 21:47:23 2014 From: terri.agnew at icann.org (Terri Agnew) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 13:47:23 -0800 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 25 February 2014 Message-ID: Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 25 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC. http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140225-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Alternate Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary - SCI Vice Chair Amr Elsadr - NCUC Alternate Jennifer Standiford - Registrar Stakeholder Group - Primary Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee - Alternate Apologies: Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC Alternative ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Julie Hedlund Nathalie Peregrine Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org Adobe Chat Transcript 25 February 2014 Terri Agnew: Welcome to the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting on Tuesday 25th February 2014 at 20:00 UTC Ron A:Good day everyone. Awaiting the operator to let me on the call. Julie Hedlund:Hello everyone. I also am waiting for the operator. Marika Konings:Same here - looks like jazz is the new trend ;-) Julie Hedlund:Yes, very jazzy! Ron A:I'm wondering what is going on... been holding for 5 mins now... Julie Hedlund:I am in now. Maybe they are catching up. Marika Konings:Still on hold Thomas Rickert:So am I... Thomas Rickert:Hi all! Cintra Sooknanan:Hi everyone Cintra Sooknanan:I'm going to see if connecting through the adobe room works Cintra Sooknanan:if I have difficulty I'll request a dial out Ron A:Looks like Adigo is having some staffing problems to let everyone on to the call... Will start at 15:05 Ron A:eEST Amr Elsadr:Dialling in now. Jennifer Standiford:hello Amr Elsadr:I just dialled in but can't hear anything. Has the meeting started? Ron A:Not yet Amr. Cintra Sooknanan:no all quiet now Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thnx. :) Ron A:Awaiting the rest of the committee as we have all been in the queue to get into the call. Amr Elsadr:We don't have NCSG. Julie Hedlund:We also are missing Wolf-Ulrich from the ISPs Ron A:Thank you, Julie. Julie Hedlund:And missing Registry SG Ron A:Yes, already noted. Thanks. Terri Agnew:Greg Shatan has joined Amr Elsadr:Thanks Thomas and Marika. That's very helpful. This will need to be changed here then. Amr Elsadr:I was going to raise my hand, but Thomas and Greg can probably address this better than I can. Terri Agnew:Apology from Marie-Laure Lemineur Amr Elsadr:Since they were on the IGO/INGO WG. Greg Shatan:The issue was that the recommendations were not in the negative.... Marika Konings:@Greg - but if it is made clear to a WG in advance that it is an option to make a recommendation against x, y or z, it may not be an issue anymore? Greg Shatan:The IGO/INGO WG "consensus against" was not full consensus against.... Marika Konings:right, but that doesn't matter, does it? the designation would determine the level of support against x, y or z? Greg Shatan:@Marika -- that was not possible in the instance, we would have had double the number of recommendation, which would have put us near 100 recommendations, with half there only to provide a solution to this problem. Marika Konings:Or you could also phrase it as 'the WG reached consensus on not providing special protections on x, y or z? Marika Konings:Right, but is that one case sufficient to change the designations where no other PDP WGs have encountered the same issue? Which I think is also a question that was raised during the last meeting. Did the sub-team go into that? Marika Konings:and to be clear, not expressing a specific view here ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Greg: That's what I was also thinking and hoped we could avoid. RE: 3 added designations for decision-making levels. Amr Elsadr:A group might also opt to add recommendatins as a result of community feedback that "the group" doesn't necessarily agree to. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Greg. Amr Elsadr:I'm not actually sure how helpful a 24 hr notice would be, so am not sure wether it is necessary or not. Amr Elsadr:I would add a section here to address the resubmission issue, just for clarity. Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Agreed, but perhaps it just needs to be clarified. Ron A:Julie: Do we have that document that Thomas is speaking about? Greg Shatan:In the Actions #2, I think that should be Marika and Greg... Amr Elsadr:Oh yeah!! How'd I end up there?? :) Julie Hedlund:Yes -- you are right :-) Amr Elsadr:I'd be happy to help though. :) Julie Hedlund:Changed it! Greg Shatan:@Amr; Just a good volunteer.... :-) Julie Hedlund:@Amr: I guess it's just because you are so helpful ;-) Greg Shatan:Merika = Marika? Julie Hedlund:Yes -- I know a Merika too. Julie Hedlund::-) Marika Konings:Marika = Marika, I'm not sure who Merika is ;-) Cintra Sooknanan::) Julie Hedlund:Merika Kaeo -- she's on the SSAC but I don't think she wants to take on more work! Julie Hedlund:Merike actually (not Merika) Marika Konings:@Amr - we can try to get you some double espressos ;-) Amr Elsadr:Thanks Ron!! :D Julie Hedlund:Names are too similar Julie Hedlund:We'll be sure there's lots of coffee! Amr Elsadr:Thank you too Marika!! ;-) Greg Shatan:@Amr -- Just don' look at your watch.... Marika Konings:And I've even done wake up calls before to make sure WG chairs would show up on time ;-) Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone! Amr Elsadr:I hope it doesn't come to that Marika!! You work a lot harder than anyone on Council!! ;-) Thomas Rickert:Thanks and bye! 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Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting ? 25 February 2014 -- Actions 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels (sub team: Amr, Cintra, Greg, Thomas) -- Continue to edit the document. 2. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures (sub team: Greg, Marie-Laure) -- Marika and Greg: Provide text of a new waiver rule to apply to motions. 3. Voting by Email: (sub team: Anne, Avri, Thomas) -- Continue work on this item in the sub team. 4. Next Meeting: Singapore, 7:30 to 8:45 am, 22 March; Room location is Sofia (tentative). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards David On 26 Feb 2014, at 3:09 am, Julie Hedlund wrote: > Dear Amr, > > David Cake has been added to the wiki. > > Best regards, > Julie > > Julie Hedlund, Policy Director > > On 2/25/14 1:52 PM, "Glen de Saint G?ry" wrote: > >> >> Dear Amr, >> >> David cake has been added to the mailing list. >> >> Thank you. >> Kind regards, >> >> Glen >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org >> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] De la part de Amr Elsadr >> Envoy? : mardi 25 f?vrier 2014 19:54 >> ? : >> Cc : David Cake >> Objet : [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC >> >> >> Hi again, >> >> It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you >> all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the >> alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I've cced him on this >> email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the >> necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4148 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de Thu Feb 27 11:08:56 2014 From: wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de (WUKnoben) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:08:56 +0100 Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Action items from SCI Meeting 25 February In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F1E2E27E397422DB056D538424AA6ED@WUKPC> All, sorry for having missed the call. As I?ll not attend the Singapore ICANN meeting I have also to apologize to miss that one. Remote participation seems to be too inconvenient due to the time zone. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Julie Hedlund Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:12 PM To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Action items from SCI Meeting 25 February Dear All, Please find below the action items from the call on 25 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/25+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled as a face-to-face meeting (with remote access) in Singapore on Saturday, 22 March at 7:30 to 8:45 am local time. A separate notice will be sent with the times and teleconference information. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting ? 25 February 2014 -- Actions 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels (sub team: Amr, Cintra, Greg, Thomas) -- Continue to edit the document. 2. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures (sub team: Greg, Marie-Laure) -- Marika and Greg: Provide text of a new waiver rule to apply to motions. 3. 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