From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Tue Jun  2 22:24:46 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:24:46 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
 Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <D1851E87.4C8AD%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
References: <D18527AF.8003B%nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>
 <D184E754.4C88C%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <D1851E87.4C8AD%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
Message-ID: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B831F15@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>

Dear SCI members,
In our June 4 phone meeting, we will take up the Council request regarding the overlap of the Waiver and Resubmission rules related to council motions.  Please review the Council request forwarded by Julie on May 22.
Thank you,
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

AAikman at LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/>








From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:59 PM
To: <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please also note the requests that were sent to the Council and approved for the SCI's consideration.

Best regards,
Julie

From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:02 PM
To: "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please note that the meeting listed below will be the only SCI meeting prior to the ICANN 53 meeting in Buenos Aires.  However, staff have requested a slot for an SCI working session in Buenos Aires on the morning of Saturday, 20 June.  Once that slot is confirmed we'll send a notification to the SCI list.

Have a nice weekend!

Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:42 PM
To: "Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Subject: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear All,



As per the results of the Doodle poll, the  preferred time and date for Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation teleconferences are Thursdays at 18:00 UTC.The next meeting is scheduled on Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC for 60 minutes.





11:00 PST , 14:00 EST,  19:00 London, 20:00 CET

For other times:http://tinyurl.com/osnyhmr



Adobe Connect:

http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/



Dial-in details are below.



If you require a dial-out, please email us (gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>) your preferred contact number.



____________________________________________________________________________

Participant passcode: SCI



For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call.

____________________________________________________________________________


Dial in numbers:
Country



Toll Numbers

Freephone/
Toll Free Number




ARGENTINA








0800-777-0519


AUSTRALIA


ADELAIDE:


61-8-8121-4842


1-800-657-260


AUSTRALIA


BRISBANE:


61-7-3102-0944


1-800-657-260


AUSTRALIA


CANBERRA:


61-2-6100-1944


1-800-657-260


AUSTRALIA


MELBOURNE:


61-3-9010-7713


1-800-657-260


AUSTRALIA


PERTH:


61-8-9467-5223


1-800-657-260


AUSTRALIA


SYDNEY:


61-2-8205-8129


1-800-657-260


AUSTRIA





43-1-92-81-113


0800-005-259


BELGIUM





32-2-400-9861


0800-3-8795


BRAZIL





55-11-3958-0779


0800-7610651


CHILE








1230-020-2863


CHINA


CHINA A:


86-400-810-4789


10800-712-1670


CHINA


CHINA B:


86-400-810-4789


10800-120-1670


COLOMBIA








01800-9-156474


CROATIA








080-08-06-309


CZECH REPUBLIC





420-2-25-98-56-64


800-700-177


DENMARK





45-7014-0284


8088-8324


ESTONIA








800-011-1093


FINLAND





358-9-5424-7162


0-800-9-14610


FRANCE


LYON:


33-4-26-69-12-85


080-511-1496


FRANCE


MARSEILLE:


33-4-86-06-00-85


080-511-1496


FRANCE


PARIS:


33-1-70-70-60-72


080-511-1496


GERMANY





49-69-2222-20362


0800-664-4247


GREECE





30-80-1-100-0687


00800-12-7312


HONG KONG





852-3001-3863


800-962-856


HUNGARY





36-1-700-8856


06-800-12755


INDIA


BANGALORE:


91-80-61275204


INDIA


MUMBAI:


91-22-61501629


INDIA


INDIA A:





000-800-852-1268


INDIA


INDIA B:





000-800-001-6305


INDIA


INDIA C:





1800-300-00491


INDONESIA








001-803-011-3982


IRELAND





353-1-246-7646


1800-992-368


ISRAEL








1-80-9216162


ITALY


MILAN:


39-02-3600-6007


800-986-383


ITALY


ROME:


39-06-8751-6018


800-986-383


ITALY


TORINO:


39-011-510-0118


800-986-383


JAPAN


OSAKA:


81-6-7878-2631


0066-33-132439


JAPAN


TOKYO:


81-3-6868-2631


0066-33-132439


LATVIA








8000-3185


LUXEMBOURG





352-27-000-1364


8002-9246


MALAYSIA








1-800-81-3065


MEXICO


GUADALAJARA (JAL):


52-33-3208-7310


001-866-376-9696


MEXICO


MEXICO CITY:


52-55-5062-9110


001-866-376-9696


MEXICO


MONTERREY:


52-81-2482-0610


001-866-376-9696


NETHERLANDS





31-20-718-8588


0800-023-4378


NEW ZEALAND





64-9-970-4771


0800-447-722


NORWAY





47-21-590-062


800-15157


PANAMA








011-001-800-5072065


PERU








0800-53713


PHILIPPINES





63-2-858-3716


1800-111-42453


POLAND








00-800-1212572


PORTUGAL








8008-14052


ROMANIA





40-31-630-01-79


RUSSIA








8-10-8002-0144011


SAUDI ARABIA








800-8-110087


SINGAPORE





65-6883-9230


800-120-4663


SLOVAK REPUBLIC





421-2-322-422-25


0800-002066


SOUTH AFRICA








080-09-80414


SOUTH KOREA





82-2-6744-1083


00798-14800-7352


SPAIN





34-91-414-25-33


800-300-053


SWEDEN





46-8-566-19-348


0200-884-622


SWITZERLAND





41-44-580-6398


0800-120-032


TAIWAN





886-2-2795-7379


00801-137-797


THAILAND








001-800-1206-66056


TURKEY








00-800-151-0516


UNITED ARAB EMIRATES








8000-35702370


UNITED KINGDOM


BIRMINGHAM:


44-121-210-9025


0808-238-6029


UNITED KINGDOM


GLASGOW:


44-141-202-3225


0808-238-6029


UNITED KINGDOM


LEEDS:


44-113-301-2125


0808-238-6029


UNITED KINGDOM


LONDON:


44-20-7108-6370


0808-238-6029


UNITED KINGDOM


MANCHESTER:


44-161-601-1425


0808-238-6029


URUGUAY








000-413-598-3421


USA





1-517-345-9004


866-692-5726


VENEZUELA








0800-1-00-3702







Thank you

Kind regards,



Nathalie

















________________________________

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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Tue Jun  2 22:57:16 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:57:16 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
 Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B831F15@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
References: <D18527AF.8003B%nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>
 <D184E754.4C88C%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <D1851E87.4C8AD%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B831F15@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
Message-ID: <D193ACC3.4CC95%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Dear Anne and SCI members,

For your reference I've attached the two requests.

Best regards,
Julie

From:  <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
Date:  Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:24 PM
To:  Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>,
"<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Subject:  RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

> Dear SCI members,
> In our June 4 phone meeting, we will take up the Council request regarding the
> overlap of the Waiver and Resubmission rules related to council motions.
> Please review the Council request forwarded by Julie on May 22.
> Thank you,
> Anne
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:59 PM
> To: <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on
> Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
>  
> 
> Dear SCI members,
> 
>  
> 
> Please also note the requests that were sent to the Council and approved for
> the SCI's consideration.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Julie
> 
>  
> 
> From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on
> Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
> 
>  
>> 
>> Dear SCI members,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Please note that the meeting listed below will be the only SCI meeting prior
>> to the ICANN 53 meeting in Buenos Aires.  However, staff have requested a
>> slot for an SCI working session in Buenos Aires on the morning of Saturday,
>> 20 June.  Once that slot is confirmed we'll send a notification to the SCI
>> list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a nice weekend!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:42 PM
>> To: "Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
>> <Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>, Julie Hedlund
>> <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
>> Subject: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
>> Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> As per the results of the Doodle poll, the  preferred time and date for
>>> Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation teleconferences are
>>> Thursdays at 18:00 UTC.The next meeting is scheduled on Thursday 4th June
>>> 2015 at 18:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 11:00 PST , 14:00 EST,  19:00 London, 20:00 CET
>>> For other times:http://tinyurl.com/osnyhmr
>>>  
>>> Adobe Connect:
>>> http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/
>>> <http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/>
>>>  
>>> Dial-in details are below.
>>>  
>>> If you require a dial-out, please email us (gnso-secs at icann.org
>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> ) your preferred contact number.
>>>  
>>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>> Participant passcode: SCI
>>>  
>>> For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call.
>>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>>  
>>> Dial in numbers:
>>> Country Toll NumbersFreephone/
>>> Toll Free Number
>>> ARGENTINA                                                 0800-777-0519
>>> AUSTRALIA           ADELAIDE:      61-8-8121-4842           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRALIA           BRISBANE:      61-7-3102-0944           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRALIA           CANBERRA:      61-2-6100-1944           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRALIA           MELBOURNE:     61-3-9010-7713           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRALIA           PERTH:         61-8-9467-5223           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRALIA           SYDNEY:        61-2-8205-8129           1-800-657-260
>>> AUSTRIA                           43-1-92-81-113           0800-005-259
>>> BELGIUM                           32-2-400-9861            0800-3-8795
>>> BRAZIL                            55-11-3958-0779          0800-7610651
>>> CHILE                                                     1230-020-2863
>>> CHINA               CHINA A:       86-400-810-4789          10800-712-1670
>>> CHINA               CHINA B:       86-400-810-4789          10800-120-1670
>>> COLOMBIA                                                  01800-9-156474
>>> CROATIA                                                   080-08-06-309
>>> CZECH REPUBLIC                    420-2-25-98-56-64        800-700-177
>>> DENMARK                           45-7014-0284             8088-8324
>>> ESTONIA                                                   800-011-1093
>>> FINLAND                           358-9-5424-7162          0-800-9-14610
>>> FRANCE              LYON:          33-4-26-69-12-85         080-511-1496
>>> FRANCE              MARSEILLE:     33-4-86-06-00-85         080-511-1496
>>> FRANCE              PARIS:         33-1-70-70-60-72         080-511-1496
>>> GERMANY                           49-69-2222-20362         0800-664-4247
>>> GREECE                            30-80-1-100-0687         00800-12-7312
>>> HONG KONG                         852-3001-3863            800-962-856
>>> HUNGARY                           36-1-700-8856            06-800-12755
>>> INDIA               BANGALORE:     91-80-61275204
>>> INDIA               MUMBAI:        91-22-61501629
>>> INDIA               INDIA A:                               000-800-852-1268
>>> INDIA               INDIA B:                               000-800-001-6305
>>> INDIA               INDIA C:                               1800-300-00491
>>> INDONESIA                                                 001-803-011-3982
>>> IRELAND                           353-1-246-7646           1800-992-368
>>> ISRAEL                                                    1-80-9216162
>>> ITALY               MILAN:         39-02-3600-6007          800-986-383
>>> ITALY               ROME:          39-06-8751-6018          800-986-383
>>> ITALY               TORINO:        39-011-510-0118          800-986-383
>>> JAPAN               OSAKA:         81-6-7878-2631           0066-33-132439
>>> JAPAN               TOKYO:         81-3-6868-2631           0066-33-132439
>>> LATVIA                                                    8000-3185
>>> LUXEMBOURG                        352-27-000-1364          8002-9246
>>> MALAYSIA                                                  1-800-81-3065
>>> MEXICO              GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310
>>> 001-866-376-9696
>>> MEXICO              MEXICO CITY:   52-55-5062-9110          001-866-376-9696
>>> MEXICO              MONTERREY:     52-81-2482-0610          001-866-376-9696
>>> NETHERLANDS                       31-20-718-8588           0800-023-4378
>>> NEW ZEALAND                       64-9-970-4771            0800-447-722
>>> NORWAY                            47-21-590-062            800-15157
>>> PANAMA         
>>> 011-001-800-5072065
>>> PERU                                                      0800-53713
>>> PHILIPPINES                       63-2-858-3716            1800-111-42453
>>> POLAND                                                    00-800-1212572
>>> PORTUGAL                                                  8008-14052
>>> ROMANIA                           40-31-630-01-79
>>> RUSSIA                                                    8-10-8002-0144011
>>> SAUDI ARABIA                                              800-8-110087
>>> SINGAPORE                         65-6883-9230             800-120-4663
>>> SLOVAK REPUBLIC                   421-2-322-422-25         0800-002066
>>> SOUTH AFRICA                                              080-09-80414
>>> SOUTH KOREA                       82-2-6744-1083           00798-14800-7352
>>> SPAIN                             34-91-414-25-33          800-300-053
>>> SWEDEN                            46-8-566-19-348          0200-884-622
>>> SWITZERLAND                       41-44-580-6398           0800-120-032
>>> TAIWAN                            886-2-2795-7379          00801-137-797
>>> THAILAND                                                  001-800-1206-66056
>>> TURKEY                                                    00-800-151-0516
>>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES                                       8000-35702370
>>> UNITED KINGDOM      BIRMINGHAM:    44-121-210-9025          0808-238-6029
>>> UNITED KINGDOM      GLASGOW:       44-141-202-3225          0808-238-6029
>>> UNITED KINGDOM      LEEDS:         44-113-301-2125          0808-238-6029
>>> UNITED KINGDOM      LONDON:        44-20-7108-6370          0808-238-6029
>>> UNITED KINGDOM      MANCHESTER:    44-161-601-1425          0808-238-6029
>>> URUGUAY                                                   000-413-598-3421
>>> USA                               1-517-345-9004           866-692-5726
>>> VENEZUELA                                                 0800-1-00-3702
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thank you
>>> Kind regards,
>>>  
>>> Nathalie
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the
>>> individual or entity to which they are addressed. If the reader of this
>>> message or an attachment is not the intended recipient or the employee or
>>> agent responsible for delivering the message or attachment to the intended
>>> recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
>>> copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you
>>> have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by
>>> replying to the sender. The information transmitted in this message and any
>>> attachments may be privileged, is intended only for the personal and
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>>> Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?2510-2521.
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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Wed Jun  3 20:42:43 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:42:43 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
 Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B831F15@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
References: <D18527AF.8003B%nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>
 <D184E754.4C88C%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <D1851E87.4C8AD%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B831F15@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
Message-ID: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B833A0B@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>

Dear SCI Members,
In order to provide a bit of background for our discussion of the first request from Council concerning the interplay between the Resubmission of a Motion rule and the 10 day waiver rule, I am pasting below in black lettering a previous comment posted to the list by Amr last year.

As I understand it, the basic question is whether a properly resubmitted motion may benefit from the 10 day waiver rule or not.  In this regard, please note that an explanation as to the reason for resubmission of the motion previously defeated must be supplied and the explanation would normally be due 10 days prior to the Council meeting.  If the 10 day waiver rule is applied, then hypothetically, the explanation for resubmission of the motion could be supplied the same day of the Council meeting and the same day of any vote on the resubmitted motion, provided that the other conditions for application of the 10 day waiver rule are met.  These conditions include no objection from any Council member to waiving the 10 day rule.

I am also asking staff to be ready to post the text of 3.3.2 (10 day waiver rule) as actually adopted by the Council as well as 4.4.3 (Resubmitted motion) if needed.

Amr?s text from last year?s discussion is here:

Hi Greg and all,

I know I?ve brought this up repetitively and I hate being a nag, but there?s still an inconvenient loophole in this text regarding resubmission of motions. On its meeting of March 26th, 2014, the GNSO Council approved the SCI recommendation to amend the GNSO Operating Procedures by adding sections 4.3.3 and 4.3.4 detailing the guidelines of motions being resubmitted. Section 4.3.3, claus number 1 reads as follows:

?1. Explanation: The Councilor submitting the motion must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the motion. The explanation need not accompany the motion when it is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no later than the deadline for submitting the motion (i.e., no later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day 10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the motion is to be reconsidered). The explanation does not need to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a timely manner.?

If the SCI determines that it would like the 10-day rule waiver to also apply to motions being resubmitted (and not exclusively to motions being submitted for the first time) in its recommendation to the Council, then there needs to be clarifying text to that effect. If the SCI does not recommend that the waiver should apply to resubmitted motions, then no further action is necessary. If the former is true, and not the latter, the the way I read it, the required clarification should either be added as a fourth bullet to 3.3.2 referencing 4.3.3, or perhaps an added numbered item to 4.3.4 (Limitations and Exceptions to Resubmission of a Motion) referring to the waiver rule in 3.3.2. Without these changes, I can?t see how the text of the operating procedures will support the waiver rule being applied to resubmitted motions in the event that the need arises.

Thanks.

Amr


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From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:25 PM
To: 'Julie Hedlund'; <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,
In our June 4 phone meeting, we will take up the Council request regarding the overlap of the Waiver and Resubmission rules related to council motions.  Please review the Council request forwarded by Julie on May 22.
Thank you,
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

AAikman at LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/>








From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:59 PM
To: <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please also note the requests that were sent to the Council and approved for the SCI's consideration.

Best regards,
Julie

From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:02 PM
To: "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please note that the meeting listed below will be the only SCI meeting prior to the ICANN 53 meeting in Buenos Aires.  However, staff have requested a slot for an SCI working session in Buenos Aires on the morning of Saturday, 20 June.  Once that slot is confirmed we'll send a notification to the SCI list.

Have a nice weekend!

Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:42 PM
To: "Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Subject: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear All,



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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Wed Jun  3 20:58:25 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:58:25 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
 Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
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Hi Anne and SCI members,

For reference please see the attached two excerpted sections from v2.9 of
the GNSO Operating Procedures as approved by the Council and dated 13
November 2014.  These also will be ready for posting in the Adobe Connect
Room on Thursday along with the two requests.

Best regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

From:  <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
Date:  Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:42 PM
To:  "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>, Julie Hedlund
<julie.hedlund at icann.org>, "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Subject:  RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

> Dear SCI Members,
> In order to provide a bit of background for our discussion of the first
> request from Council concerning the interplay between the Resubmission of a
> Motion rule and the 10 day waiver rule, I am pasting below in black lettering
> a previous comment posted to the list by Amr last year.
>  
> As I understand it, the basic question is whether a properly resubmitted
> motion may benefit from the 10 day waiver rule or not.  In this regard, please
> note that an explanation as to the reason for resubmission of the motion
> previously defeated must be supplied and the explanation would normally be due
> 10 days prior to the Council meeting.  If the 10 day waiver rule is applied,
> then hypothetically, the explanation for resubmission of the motion could be
> supplied the same day of the Council meeting and the same day of any vote on
> the resubmitted motion, provided that the other conditions for application of
> the 10 day waiver rule are met.  These conditions include no objection from
> any Council member to waiving the 10 day rule.
>  
> I am also asking staff to be ready to post the text of 3.3.2 (10 day waiver
> rule) as actually adopted by the Council as well as 4.4.3 (Resubmitted motion)
> if needed.
>  
> Amr?s text from last year?s discussion is here:
>  
> Hi Greg and all,
>  
> I know I?ve brought this up repetitively and I hate being a nag, but there?s
> still an inconvenient loophole in this text regarding resubmission of motions.
> On its meeting of March 26th, 2014, the GNSO Council approved the SCI
> recommendation to amend the GNSO Operating Procedures by adding sections 4.3.3
> and 4.3.4 detailing the guidelines of motions being resubmitted. Section
> 4.3.3, claus number 1 reads as follows:
>  
> ?1. Explanation: The Councilor submitting the motion must also submit an
> explanation for the resubmission of the motion. The explanation need not
> accompany the motion when it is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be
> submitted no later than the deadline for submitting the motion (i.e., no later
> than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day 10 calendar days before
> the Council meeting at which the motion is to be reconsidered). The
> explanation does not need to meet any requirements other than being submitted
> in a timely manner.?
>  
> If the SCI determines that it would like the 10-day rule waiver to also apply
> to motions being resubmitted (and not exclusively to motions being submitted
> for the first time) in its recommendation to the Council, then there needs to
> be clarifying text to that effect. If the SCI does not recommend that the
> waiver should apply to resubmitted motions, then no further action is
> necessary. If the former is true, and not the latter, the the way I read it,
> the required clarification should either be added as a fourth bullet to 3.3.2
> referencing 4.3.3, or perhaps an added numbered item to 4.3.4 (Limitations and
> Exceptions to Resubmission of a Motion) referring to the waiver rule in 3.3.2.
> Without these changes, I can?t see how the text of the operating procedures
> will support the waiver rule being applied to resubmitted motions in the event
> that the need arises.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amr
>  
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Aikman-Scalese,
> Anne
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:25 PM
> To: 'Julie Hedlund'; <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on
> Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
>  
> Dear SCI members,
> In our June 4 phone meeting, we will take up the Council request regarding the
> overlap of the Waiver and Resubmission rules related to council motions.
> Please review the Council request forwarded by Julie on May 22.
> Thank you,
> Anne
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:59 PM
> To: <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on
> Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
>  
> 
> Dear SCI members,
> 
>  
> 
> Please also note the requests that were sent to the Council and approved for
> the SCI's consideration.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Julie
> 
>  
> 
> From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on
> Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
> 
>  
>> 
>> Dear SCI members,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Please note that the meeting listed below will be the only SCI meeting prior
>> to the ICANN 53 meeting in Buenos Aires.  However, staff have requested a
>> slot for an SCI working session in Buenos Aires on the morning of Saturday,
>> 20 June.  Once that slot is confirmed we'll send a notification to the SCI
>> list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a nice weekend!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:42 PM
>> To: "Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
>> <Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>, Julie Hedlund
>> <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
>> Subject: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
>> Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> As per the results of the Doodle poll, the  preferred time and date for
>>> Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation teleconferences are
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>>> 2015 at 18:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
>>>  
>>>  
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>>>  
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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Thu Jun  4 17:43:53 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:43:53 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements
 Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B833A0B@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
References: <D18527AF.8003B%nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>
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Dear all,
I do need to correct my text below in that I said that if the 10-day waiver rule is applied to resubmitted motions, then a resubmitted motion could be considered the same day as the Council meeting.  This is not the case because the resubmission rule requires that the resubmitted motion be provided at least 24 hours in advance of the Council meeting.  I apologize for this error in my summary.

I look forward to speaking with all who are able to attend in a few minutes.
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

AAikman at LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/>








From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 1:43 PM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Julie Hedlund'; <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Subject: RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI Members,
In order to provide a bit of background for our discussion of the first request from Council concerning the interplay between the Resubmission of a Motion rule and the 10 day waiver rule, I am pasting below in black lettering a previous comment posted to the list by Amr last year.

As I understand it, the basic question is whether a properly resubmitted motion may benefit from the 10 day waiver rule or not.  In this regard, please note that an explanation as to the reason for resubmission of the motion previously defeated must be supplied and the explanation would normally be due 10 days prior to the Council meeting.  If the 10 day waiver rule is applied, then hypothetically, the explanation for resubmission of the motion could be supplied the same day of the Council meeting and the same day of any vote on the resubmitted motion, provided that the other conditions for application of the 10 day waiver rule are met.  These conditions include no objection from any Council member to waiving the 10 day rule.

I am also asking staff to be ready to post the text of 3.3.2 (10 day waiver rule) as actually adopted by the Council as well as 4.4.3 (Resubmitted motion) if needed.

Amr?s text from last year?s discussion is here:

Hi Greg and all,

I know I?ve brought this up repetitively and I hate being a nag, but there?s still an inconvenient loophole in this text regarding resubmission of motions. On its meeting of March 26th, 2014, the GNSO Council approved the SCI recommendation to amend the GNSO Operating Procedures by adding sections 4.3.3 and 4.3.4 detailing the guidelines of motions being resubmitted. Section 4.3.3, claus number 1 reads as follows:

?1. Explanation: The Councilor submitting the motion must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the motion. The explanation need not accompany the motion when it is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no later than the deadline for submitting the motion (i.e., no later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day 10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the motion is to be reconsidered). The explanation does not need to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a timely manner.?

If the SCI determines that it would like the 10-day rule waiver to also apply to motions being resubmitted (and not exclusively to motions being submitted for the first time) in its recommendation to the Council, then there needs to be clarifying text to that effect. If the SCI does not recommend that the waiver should apply to resubmitted motions, then no further action is necessary. If the former is true, and not the latter, the the way I read it, the required clarification should either be added as a fourth bullet to 3.3.2 referencing 4.3.3, or perhaps an added numbered item to 4.3.4 (Limitations and Exceptions to Resubmission of a Motion) referring to the waiver rule in 3.3.2. Without these changes, I can?t see how the text of the operating procedures will support the waiver rule being applied to resubmitted motions in the event that the need arises.

Thanks.

Amr


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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

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From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:25 PM
To: 'Julie Hedlund'; <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,
In our June 4 phone meeting, we will take up the Council request regarding the overlap of the Waiver and Resubmission rules related to council motions.  Please review the Council request forwarded by Julie on May 22.
Thank you,
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

AAikman at LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/>








From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:59 PM
To: <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please also note the requests that were sent to the Council and approved for the SCI's consideration.

Best regards,
Julie

From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:02 PM
To: "<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear SCI members,

Please note that the meeting listed below will be the only SCI meeting prior to the ICANN 53 meeting in Buenos Aires.  However, staff have requested a slot for an SCI working session in Buenos Aires on the morning of Saturday, 20 June.  Once that slot is confirmed we'll send a notification to the SCI list.

Have a nice weekend!

Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
Date: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:42 PM
To: "Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:Ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Subject: Meeting Invitation: Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation - Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC

Dear All,



As per the results of the Doodle poll, the  preferred time and date for Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation teleconferences are Thursdays at 18:00 UTC.The next meeting is scheduled on Thursday 4th June 2015 at 18:00 UTC for 60 minutes.





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From terri.agnew at icann.org  Fri Jun  5 01:04:41 2015
From: terri.agnew at icann.org (Terri Agnew)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 01:04:41 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Message-ID: <adebd95654144029aa5b7d4691f75298@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)



Attendees:

Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair

Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary

Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary

Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary

Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary

Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate



Apologies:

None



ICANN Staff:

Julie Hedlund

Mary Wong

Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015

   Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015

  Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?

  Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active

  Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.

  Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.

  Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining

  Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?

  Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?

  Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks

  Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."

  Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?

  Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.

 Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.

  Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions

  Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??

  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary

  Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)

  Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.

  Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start

  Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)

  Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.

  Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1

  Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.

  Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.

  Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction

  Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft

  Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.

 Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.

  Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.

  Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.

  Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)

  Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45

  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00

  Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?

  Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out

  Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.

  Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!

  Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(

  Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.

  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting

  Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.

  Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all

  Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.






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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Wed Jun 10 23:11:03 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:11:03 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI Meeting in Buenos Aires
Message-ID: <D19E3BAE.4D1B9%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Dear SCI members,

Please see the following information from Glen de Saint G?ry concerning the
schedule for the face-to-face meeting of the SCI in Buenos Aires.   The
teleconference information will be sent separately.

Best regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

The GNSO Standing Committee for Improvements Implementation (SCI) meeting is
07:45-08:45 on Saturday 20 June 2015 in Retiro B.
Coffee and pastries will be served.


Details of the meeting can be found at:
http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-sci
<http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-sci>
 
Please find the link to add your agenda:
Agenda Details: 
https://community.icann.org/x/RIM0Aw <https://community.icann.org/x/RIM0Aw>


The GNSO working sessions will follow in the same room at 9:00 and the first
agenda item is
09:0009:15Standing Committee on GNSO Improvements Implementation update

What it's about: Update from the SCI on its 2015 potential activities.
Background Information: Home
<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/Home>
Policy Staff responsible: Julie Hedlund and Mary WongJonathan RobinsonAnne
Aikman-Scelese, Avri Doria
 
 
Kind regards,
 
Glen
 


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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Thu Jun 11 15:08:25 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:08:25 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI Report to the Council
Message-ID: <D19F1BA5.4D214%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Dear SCI members,

Please see the attached report and the email below from Anne.  Note that I
have sent the meeting information to the list.  The meeting will be from
0745-0845 local Buenos Aires time on Saturday, 20 June.  See:
http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-sci.

Kind regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

-----------------------------------------

Dear all,
Attached please find the SCI Report for BA.  Let me know if you have
comments.  I have not said anything about our positive straw poll in
connection with the possible application of the 10 day waiver rule to
resubmitted motions  - too early.
 
Julie, can we send out a time and place meeting notice to SCI members for
the BA meeting no later than this Friday, June 12?  I don?t know whether our
start time will be 7:30 or 8:00 am but I assume Glen knows.
Thank you,
Anne


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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Tue Jun 16 18:14:20 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:14:20 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <adebd95654144029aa5b7d4691f75298@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
References: <adebd95654144029aa5b7d4691f75298@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
Message-ID: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B84945D@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>

Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.

Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
Thank you,
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

AAikman at LRRLaw.com<mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com<http://www.lrrlaw.com/>








From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)



Attendees:

Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair

Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary

Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary

Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary

Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary

Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate



Apologies:

None



ICANN Staff:

Julie Hedlund

Mary Wong

Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015

   Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015

  Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?

  Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active

  Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.

  Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.

  Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining

  Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?

  Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?

  Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks

  Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."

  Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?

  Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.

 Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.

  Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions

  Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??

  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary

  Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)

  Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.

  Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.

  Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start

  Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)

  Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.

  Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1

  Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.

  Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.

  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.

  Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction

  Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft

  Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.

 Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.

  Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.

  Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.

  Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)

  Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45

  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00

  Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?

  Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out

  Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.

  Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!

  Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.

  Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(

  Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.

  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting

  Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you

  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.

  Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.

  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all

  Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.







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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Tue Jun 16 18:24:09 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:24:09 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
 June 2015
Message-ID: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Hi Anne,

We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which
also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking
to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to
the list.

Thanks,
Julie

From:  <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
Date:  Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
To:  Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Cc:  "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject:  [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
June 2015

> Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to
> put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view
> toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day
> waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old
> language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday
> morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>  
> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
> Thank you,
> Anne
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June
> 2015
>  
> Dear All,
> 
> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements
> Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015:
> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
> 
> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
> <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>  
> 
> Attendees:
> 
> Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair
> 
> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary
> 
> Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary
> 
> Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary
> 
> Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary
> 
> Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate
> 
>  
> 
> Apologies: 
> 
> None
> 
>  
> 
> ICANN Staff:
> 
> Julie Hedlund
> 
> Mary Wong
> 
> Terri Agnew
> 
>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Thank you.
> Kind regards,
> 
> Terri Agnew  
> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>    Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>   Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>   Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>   Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
>   Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>   Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>   Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the
> resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>   Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>   Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>   Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted
> motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the
> Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed
> in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council
> under this Section 3.3.2."
>   Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>   Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI
> members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most
> were ok with it.
>  Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the
> council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>   Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day
> waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>   Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could
> indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>   Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many
> times a motion may be resubmitted.
>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is
> governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>   Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>   Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did
> actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>   Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great
> discussions.
>   Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>   Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the
> discussion never stuck.
>   Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took
> place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to
> have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure
> I got it.
>   Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the
> direction 
>   Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>   Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking
> them to draft.
>  Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving
> anything.
>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
>   Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting
> point only and a good thing to react o.
>   Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>   Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>   Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>   Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>   Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>   Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>   Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be
> provided.
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to
> the list
>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
>   Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>   Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting
> remotely.
>   Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>   Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I
> won't be there.
>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>   Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>   Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>   Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Tue Jun 16 19:48:01 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:48:01 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver and Resubmitted Motions
Message-ID: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Dear Anne and SCI members,

As discussed on our call on 04 June, Amr and staff considered draft language
concerning the treatment of resubmitted motions with respect to the 10-day
waiver rule.  After reviewing the language that Amr had referenced at the
meeting, and that had been suggested by Mary Wong last year when this issue
was first discussed, we decided that language seemed to address the issue
succinctly.  Here is the language [in brackets/highlighted] following the
last two sentences of Section 3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions.

"If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if the
motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it shall not be
considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for Resubmission of a Motion
in these Operating Procedures. [Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section
4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet
these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order
to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section
3.3.2.]"

For your reference, I have included below the full text from Sections 3.3.2
and 4.3.3.

The next SCI meeting will be held in Buenos Aires on Saturday, 20 June, from
0745 to 0845 local time (1045 UTC) during which the SCI can discuss the
proposed language.  Of course, you may also wish to send comments to the
list prior to the meeting.

Best regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

Excerpted from the GNSO Operating Procedures, v9 (13 November 2014)
3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions
Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for inclusion on
the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23h59 Coordinated
Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar days before the GNSO Council
meeting.
 
If a motion is submitted after the Submission Deadline, the GNSO Council
shall consider the motion if the following requirements are met:
a.     The motion (including any report or other supporting documentation)
is submitted to the GNSO Council at least 24 hours in advance of the GNSO
Council meeting; 

b.     The motion is accompanied by a request to consider the motion despite
submission after the Submission Deadline (a ?Request for Consideration?);

c.     A vote on the Request for Consideration shall be called as the first
order of business for the agenda item that deals with the motion. The vote
on the Request for Consideration must be unanimous (i.e., all Councilors or
their proxies must vote and all votes cast must be in favor of considering
the motion at such GNSO Council meeting) for the motion to be considered at
such GNSO Council meeting.

If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if the
motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it shall not be
considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for Resubmission of a Motion
in these Operating Procedures.


4.3.3    Resubmission of a Motion: If a motion has been voted on by the GNSO
Council and not adopted, that motion may be resubmitted to the Council for
consideration at a subsequent meeting of the Council, subject to the
following criteria:
1.     Explanation:  The Councilor submitting the motion must also submit an
explanation for the resubmission of the motion.  The explanation need not
accompany the motion when it is resubmitted; however, the explanation must
be submitted no later than the deadline for submitting the motion (i.e., no
later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day 10 calendar
days before the Council meeting at which the motion is to be reconsidered).
The explanation does not need to meet any requirements other than being
submitted in a timely manner.
2.     Publication: The text and explanation of the resubmitted motion must
be published (i.e., circulated to the Council mailing list) no later than
the deadline for submitting the motion.
3.     Second:  Upon the second resubmission of a motion (i.e., the third
time the same motion comes before the Council), the motion must be seconded
by a Councilor from each house as a prerequisite for placing the resubmitted
motion on the consent agenda.


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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Tue Jun 16 20:20:47 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:20:47 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver and Resubmitted
 Motions
In-Reply-To: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
References: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
Message-ID: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B8496E1@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>

Dear all,
It was agreed in our SCI conference call on Thursday June 4 that we would ask members for their general views on the applicability of the 10-day waiver rule to resubmitted motions prior to considering specific language.  We took a straw poll and those on the call were in favor of pursuing this clarification to the Operating Procedures to confirm that a resubmitted motion may benefit from the 10 day waiver rule, provided it meets all the other requirements of that rule.  Thus, a resubmitted motion could be considered under the waiver rule if submitted 24 hours prior to the Council meeting accompanied by a request for consideration on a waiver basis and an explanation as to why the motion should be reconsidered.  The 10 day waiver only applies if no Councilor objects.

At the top of our meeting in Buenos Aires, we will be discussing the proposed application of this rule generally.  Will those who were not on the call June 4 please try to listen to the mp3 previously forwarded by Terri?   Then please provide any comments you may want to make as to the general idea to the list prior to Saturday June 20 for our 7:45 am meeting BA time.

I am looking forward to see all who are able to attend in Buenos Aires.  Again, our meeting runs from 7:45 to 8:45 am Saturady in the same room as GNSO Council working sessions.
Thank you and smooth travels to everyone,
Anne

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Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel

Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

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From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
Subject: Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver and Resubmitted Motions
Importance: High

Dear Anne and SCI members,

As discussed on our call on 04 June, Amr and staff considered draft language concerning the treatment of resubmitted motions with respect to the 10-day waiver rule.  After reviewing the language that Amr had referenced at the meeting, and that had been suggested by Mary Wong last year when this issue was first discussed, we decided that language seemed to address the issue succinctly.  Here is the language [in brackets/highlighted] following the last two sentences of Section 3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions.

"If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures. [Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2.]"

For your reference, I have included below the full text from Sections 3.3.2 and 4.3.3.

The next SCI meeting will be held in Buenos Aires on Saturday, 20 June, from 0745 to 0845 local time (1045 UTC) during which the SCI can discuss the proposed language.  Of course, you may also wish to send comments to the list prior to the meeting.

Best regards,
Julie

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

Excerpted from the GNSO Operating Procedures, v9 (13 November 2014)
3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions
Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar days before the GNSO Council meeting.

If a motion is submitted after the Submission Deadline, the GNSO Council shall consider the motion if the following requirements are met:

1.       The motion (including any report or other supporting documentation) is submitted to the GNSO Council at least 24 hours in advance of the GNSO Council meeting;

2.       The motion is accompanied by a request to consider the motion despite submission after the Submission Deadline (a ?Request for Consideration?);

3.       A vote on the Request for Consideration shall be called as the first order of business for the agenda item that deals with the motion. The vote on the Request for Consideration must be unanimous (i.e., all Councilors or their proxies must vote and all votes cast must be in favor of considering the motion at such GNSO Council meeting) for the motion to be considered at such GNSO Council meeting.
If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures.

4.3.3    Resubmission of a Motion: If a motion has been voted on by the GNSO Council and not adopted, that motion may be resubmitted to the Council for consideration at a subsequent meeting of the Council, subject to the following criteria:
Explanation:  The Councilor submitting the motion must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the motion.  The explanation need not accompany the motion when it is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no later than the deadline for submitting the motion (i.e., no later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day 10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the motion is to be reconsidered).  The explanation does not need to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a timely manner.
Publication: The text and explanation of the resubmitted motion must be published (i.e., circulated to the Council mailing list) no later than the deadline for submitting the motion.
Second:  Upon the second resubmission of a motion (i.e., the third time the same motion comes before the Council), the motion must be seconded by a Councilor from each house as a prerequisite for placing the resubmitted motion on the consent agenda.

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From rudi.vansnick at isoc.be  Wed Jun 17 05:25:57 2015
From: rudi.vansnick at isoc.be (Rudi Vansnick)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:25:57 +0200
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
References: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
Message-ID: <EFAB701A-7561-4827-866C-3133BA2C353D@isoc.be>

Dear Anne,
Dear all,

I?m also in favor of integrating Mary?s (Amr?s) changes to the text before posting it to the list.
I will be traveling from today 14:00 UTC till Thursday 9:00am AGT. Safe travels and see you in BA.

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/>

rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32



> Op 16-jun.-2015, om 20:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Julie
> 
> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com <mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org <mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
> 
>> Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>> 
>> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
>> Thank you,
>> Anne
>> 
>> <image001.gif>
>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
>> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
>> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
>> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
>> AAikman at LRRLaw.com <mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3>
>> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
>> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>> 
>> Attendees:
>> Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary
>> Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary
>> Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary
>> Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary
>> Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate
>> 
>> Apologies:
>> None
>> 
>> ICANN Staff:
>> Julie Hedlund
>> Mary Wong
>> Terri Agnew
>>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> Thank you.
>> Kind regards,
>> Terri Agnew
>> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>>    Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>>   Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>>   Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>>   Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
>>   Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>>   Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>>   Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>>   Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>>   Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html>
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>>   Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
>>   Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>>   Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.
>>  Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>>   Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>>   Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>>   Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>>   Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>>   Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>>   Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction
>>   Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>>   Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
>>  Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
>>   Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
>>   Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>>   Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>>   Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>>   Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>>   Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>>   Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
>>   Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>>   Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>>   Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>>   Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>>   Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>>   Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From avri at acm.org  Thu Jun 18 00:02:53 2015
From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:02:53 -0400
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver
 and Resubmitted Motions
In-Reply-To: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
References: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
Message-ID: <55820AAD.3060709@acm.org>


Hi,

(without liaison hat on)

I have a question: does it seem like we are complicating the rules to
the point that it will take lawyers to read and interpret them.  I read
the language below and found I had to read it multiple times to get a
clear view of what it was saying.

Is there are chance we might consider readability when making changes?
And perhaps doing a readability pass though the operating procedures at
some point? 

avri

On 16-Jun-15 15:48, Julie Hedlund wrote:
> Dear Anne and SCI members,
>
> As discussed on our call on 04 June, Amr and staff considered draft
> language concerning the treatment of resubmitted motions with respect
> to the 10-day waiver rule.  After reviewing the language that Amr had
> referenced at the meeting, and that had been suggested by Mary Wong
> last year when this issue was first discussed, we decided that
> language seemed to address the issue succinctly.  Here is the language
> [in brackets/highlighted] following the last two sentences of Section
> 3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions.
>
> "If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be
> considered submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance
> of doubt, if the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council
> meeting, it shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the
> rules for Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures.
> [Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements
> in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible
> for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2.]"
>
> For your reference, I have included below the full text from Sections
> 3.3.2 and 4.3.3.
>
> The next SCI meeting will be held in Buenos Aires on Saturday, 20
> June, from 0745 to 0845 local time (1045 UTC) during which the SCI can
> discuss the proposed language.  Of course, you may also wish to send
> comments to the list prior to the meeting.
>
> Best regards,
> Julie
>
> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
> *
> *
> *Excerpted from the GNSO Operating Procedures, v9 (13 November 2014)*
>
>
>       3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions
>
> Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
> inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than *23h59
> Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar*/**//days
> /before the GNSO Council meeting.
>
>  
>
> If a motion is submitted after the Submission Deadline, the GNSO
> Council shall consider the motion if the following requirements are met:
>
> a.     The motion (including any report or other supporting
> documentation) is submitted to the GNSO Council at least 24 hours in
> advance of the GNSO Council meeting;
>
> b.     The motion is accompanied by a request to consider the motion
> despite submission after the Submission Deadline (a ?Request for
> Consideration?);
>
> c.     A vote on the Request for Consideration shall be called as the
> first order of business for the agenda item that deals with the
> motion. The vote on the Request for Consideration must be unanimous
> (i.e., all Councilors or their proxies must vote and all votes cast
> must be in favor of considering the motion at such GNSO Council
> meeting) for the motion to be considered at such GNSO Council meeting.
>
> If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
> submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if
> the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it
> shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for
> Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures. 
>
>
>         4.3.3    _Resubmission of a Motion_: If a motion has been
>         voted on by the GNSO Council and not adopted, that motion may
>         be resubmitted to the Council for consideration at a
>         subsequent meeting of the Council, subject to the following
>         criteria:
>
>
>         1.     _Explanation_:  The Councilor submitting the motion
>         must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the
>         motion.  The explanation need not accompany the motion when it
>         is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no
>         later than the deadline for submitting the motion (_i.e._, no
>         later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day
>         10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the
>         motion is to be reconsidered).  The explanation does not need
>         to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a
>         timely manner.
>
>
>         2.     _Publication_: The text and explanation of the
>         resubmitted motion must be published (_i.e._, circulated to
>         the Council mailing list) no later than the deadline for
>         submitting the motion.
>
>
>         3.     _Second_:  Upon the second resubmission of a motion
>         (_i.e._, the third time the same motion comes before the
>         Council), the motion must be seconded by a Councilor from each
>         house as a prerequisite for placing the resubmitted motion on
>         the consent agenda.
>


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From aelsadr at egyptig.org  Thu Jun 18 11:09:46 2015
From: aelsadr at egyptig.org (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:09:46 +0200
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver and Resubmitted Motions
In-Reply-To: <55820AAD.3060709@acm.org>
References: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org> <55820AAD.3060709@acm.org>
Message-ID: <25E6A481-961B-4065-911A-0EAE051DA65F@egyptig.org>


Hi,

I don?t see why we can?t (or shouldn?t) consider readability. Note that the language being suggested is only meant to be a starting point, not a final draft.

Having said that, I don?t personally find this language to be overly complex, but that may very well be because I?ve been paying far more attention to this topic than a typical community member who is not aware of SCI projects and discussions.

On Jun 18, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> (without liaison hat on)
> 
> I have a question: does it seem like we are complicating the rules to
> the point that it will take lawyers to read and interpret them.  I read
> the language below and found I had to read it multiple times to get a
> clear view of what it was saying.
> 
> Is there are chance we might consider readability when making changes?
> And perhaps doing a readability pass though the operating procedures at
> some point? 
> 
> avri
> 
> On 16-Jun-15 15:48, Julie Hedlund wrote:
>> Dear Anne and SCI members,
>> 
>> As discussed on our call on 04 June, Amr and staff considered draft
>> language concerning the treatment of resubmitted motions with respect
>> to the 10-day waiver rule.  After reviewing the language that Amr had
>> referenced at the meeting, and that had been suggested by Mary Wong
>> last year when this issue was first discussed, we decided that
>> language seemed to address the issue succinctly.  Here is the language
>> [in brackets/highlighted] following the last two sentences of Section
>> 3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions.
>> 
>> "If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be
>> considered submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance
>> of doubt, if the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council
>> meeting, it shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the
>> rules for Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures.
>> [Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
>> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements
>> in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible
>> for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2.]"
>> 
>> For your reference, I have included below the full text from Sections
>> 3.3.2 and 4.3.3.
>> 
>> The next SCI meeting will be held in Buenos Aires on Saturday, 20
>> June, from 0745 to 0845 local time (1045 UTC) during which the SCI can
>> discuss the proposed language.  Of course, you may also wish to send
>> comments to the list prior to the meeting.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Julie
>> 
>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>> *
>> *
>> *Excerpted from the GNSO Operating Procedures, v9 (13 November 2014)*
>> 
>> 
>>      3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions
>> 
>> Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
>> inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than *23h59
>> Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar*/**//days
>> /before the GNSO Council meeting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If a motion is submitted after the Submission Deadline, the GNSO
>> Council shall consider the motion if the following requirements are met:
>> 
>> a.     The motion (including any report or other supporting
>> documentation) is submitted to the GNSO Council at least 24 hours in
>> advance of the GNSO Council meeting;
>> 
>> b.     The motion is accompanied by a request to consider the motion
>> despite submission after the Submission Deadline (a ?Request for
>> Consideration?);
>> 
>> c.     A vote on the Request for Consideration shall be called as the
>> first order of business for the agenda item that deals with the
>> motion. The vote on the Request for Consideration must be unanimous
>> (i.e., all Councilors or their proxies must vote and all votes cast
>> must be in favor of considering the motion at such GNSO Council
>> meeting) for the motion to be considered at such GNSO Council meeting.
>> 
>> If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
>> submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if
>> the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it
>> shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for
>> Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures. 
>> 
>> 
>>        4.3.3    _Resubmission of a Motion_: If a motion has been
>>        voted on by the GNSO Council and not adopted, that motion may
>>        be resubmitted to the Council for consideration at a
>>        subsequent meeting of the Council, subject to the following
>>        criteria:
>> 
>> 
>>        1.     _Explanation_:  The Councilor submitting the motion
>>        must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the
>>        motion.  The explanation need not accompany the motion when it
>>        is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no
>>        later than the deadline for submitting the motion (_i.e._, no
>>        later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day
>>        10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the
>>        motion is to be reconsidered).  The explanation does not need
>>        to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a
>>        timely manner.
>> 
>> 
>>        2.     _Publication_: The text and explanation of the
>>        resubmitted motion must be published (_i.e._, circulated to
>>        the Council mailing list) no later than the deadline for
>>        submitting the motion.
>> 
>> 
>>        3.     _Second_:  Upon the second resubmission of a motion
>>        (_i.e._, the third time the same motion comes before the
>>        Council), the motion must be seconded by a Councilor from each
>>        house as a prerequisite for placing the resubmitted motion on
>>        the consent agenda.
>> 
> 
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From rudi.vansnick at isoc.be  Thu Jun 18 14:59:08 2015
From: rudi.vansnick at isoc.be (Rudi Vansnick)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:59:08 -0300
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
References: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
Message-ID: <6829B586-D525-45AE-8F04-669E88B172A5@isoc.be>

Dear Anne,
Dear all,

As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I?m willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I?m having some more free time to make available for this task.

See you all in BA.

Best regards,

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/>

rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32



> Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Julie
> 
> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com <mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org <mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
> 
>> Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>> 
>> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
>> Thank you,
>> Anne
>> 
>> <image001.gif>
>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
>> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
>> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
>> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
>> AAikman at LRRLaw.com <mailto:AAikman at LRRLaw.com> | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org <mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3>
>> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
>> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>> 
>> Attendees:
>> Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary
>> Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary
>> Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary
>> Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary
>> Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate
>> 
>> Apologies:
>> None
>> 
>> ICANN Staff:
>> Julie Hedlund
>> Mary Wong
>> Terri Agnew
>>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> Thank you.
>> Kind regards,
>> Terri Agnew
>> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>>    Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>>   Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>>   Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>>   Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
>>   Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>>   Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>>   Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>>   Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>>   Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html>
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>>   Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
>>   Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>>   Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.
>>  Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>>   Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>>   Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>>   Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>>   Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>>   Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>>   Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction
>>   Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>>   Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
>>  Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
>>   Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
>>   Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>>   Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>>   Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>>   Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>>   Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>>   Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
>>   Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>>   Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>>   Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>>   Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>>   Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>>   Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de  Thu Jun 18 16:45:46 2015
From: wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de (WUKnoben)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:45:46 -0300
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <6829B586-D525-45AE-8F04-669E88B172A5@isoc.be>
References: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org> <6829B586-D525-45AE-8F04-669E88B172A5@isoc.be>
Message-ID: <441EDB146D884DD0843C16879A5A5ECD@WUKPC>

I really welcome your fearlessness, Rudi! 

You?ll have my support.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich



From: Rudi Vansnick 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:59 AM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne 
Cc: Terri Agnew ; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org ; gnso-secs at icann.org ; Julie Hedlund 
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Dear Anne, 
Dear all,

As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I?m willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I?m having some more free time to make available for this task. 

See you all in BA.

Best regards,

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org

rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32



  Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> het volgende geschreven:

  Hi Anne,

  We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.

  Thanks,
  Julie

  From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
  Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
  To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
  Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
  Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015


    Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
     
    Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
    Thank you,
    Anne
     
          <image001.gif> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel 
          Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |  
          One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 
          (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725 
          AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com 
         
         

     
           

     
    From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
    Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
    To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
    Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
    Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
     
    Dear All,
    Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3

    On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun

    (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)

     
    Attendees:
    Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair
    Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary
    Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary
    Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary
    Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary
    Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate
     
    Apologies: 
    None
     
    ICANN Staff:
    Julie Hedlund
    Mary Wong
    Terri Agnew
     ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Thank you.

    Kind regards,

    Terri Agnew  

    Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015

       Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
      Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
      Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
      Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
      Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
      Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
      Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
      Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
      Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
      Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
      Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ? 
      Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.
    Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
      Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
      Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
      Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
      Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
      Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
      Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
      Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
      Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
      Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
      Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
      Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.
      Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
      Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
      Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
      Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
      Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
      Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction 
      Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue. 
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
      Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
    Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.
      Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
      Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
      Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
      Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
      Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
      Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
      Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
      Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
      Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
      Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
      Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
      Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
      Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
      Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
      Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
      Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
      Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
      Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
      Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
      Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
      Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
      Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
      Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
      Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
     
     
     


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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Fri Jun 19 20:04:55 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:04:55 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day
 Waiver and Resubmitted Motions
In-Reply-To: <55820AAD.3060709@acm.org>
References: <D1A5F04B.4D4D7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
 <55820AAD.3060709@acm.org>
Message-ID: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B84D9A4@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>


Avri - I agree with your instincts on this one.  Although I am a lawyer and appreciate that this language is in fact succinct from a legal drafting standpoint, I am also interested to see whether we could craft something a bit easier to read.  Let's discuss in our meeting tomorrow morning.
Anne

Anne E. Aikman-Scalese
Of Counsel
Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
One South Church Avenue Suite 700
Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
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-----Original Message-----
From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:03 PM
To: Julie Hedlund; Aikman-Scalese, Anne; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Proposed Language Concerning 10-Day Waiver and Resubmitted Motions

Hi,

(without liaison hat on)

I have a question: does it seem like we are complicating the rules to the point that it will take lawyers to read and interpret them.  I read the language below and found I had to read it multiple times to get a clear view of what it was saying.

Is there are chance we might consider readability when making changes?
And perhaps doing a readability pass though the operating procedures at some point?

avri

On 16-Jun-15 15:48, Julie Hedlund wrote:
> Dear Anne and SCI members,
>
> As discussed on our call on 04 June, Amr and staff considered draft
> language concerning the treatment of resubmitted motions with respect
> to the 10-day waiver rule.  After reviewing the language that Amr had
> referenced at the meeting, and that had been suggested by Mary Wong
> last year when this issue was first discussed, we decided that
> language seemed to address the issue succinctly.  Here is the language
> [in brackets/highlighted] following the last two sentences of Section
> 3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions.
>
> "If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
> submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if
> the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it
> shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for
> Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures.
> [Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements
> in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible
> for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2.]"
>
> For your reference, I have included below the full text from Sections
> 3.3.2 and 4.3.3.
>
> The next SCI meeting will be held in Buenos Aires on Saturday, 20
> June, from 0745 to 0845 local time (1045 UTC) during which the SCI can
> discuss the proposed language.  Of course, you may also wish to send
> comments to the list prior to the meeting.
>
> Best regards,
> Julie
>
> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
> *
> *
> *Excerpted from the GNSO Operating Procedures, v9 (13 November 2014)*
>
>
>       3.3.2 Submission of Reports and Motions
>
> Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
> inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than *23h59
> Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar*/**//days
> /before the GNSO Council meeting.
>
>
>
> If a motion is submitted after the Submission Deadline, the GNSO
> Council shall consider the motion if the following requirements are met:
>
> a.     The motion (including any report or other supporting
> documentation) is submitted to the GNSO Council at least 24 hours in
> advance of the GNSO Council meeting;
>
> b.     The motion is accompanied by a request to consider the motion
> despite submission after the Submission Deadline (a "Request for
> Consideration");
>
> c.     A vote on the Request for Consideration shall be called as the
> first order of business for the agenda item that deals with the
> motion. The vote on the Request for Consideration must be unanimous
> (i.e., all Councilors or their proxies must vote and all votes cast
> must be in favor of considering the motion at such GNSO Council
> meeting) for the motion to be considered at such GNSO Council meeting.
>
> If these requirements are not met, the motion shall not be considered
> submitted for the next Council meeting. For the avoidance of doubt, if
> the motion is proposed again for a subsequent Council meeting, it
> shall not be considered a resubmitted motion under the rules for
> Resubmission of a Motion in these Operating Procedures.
>
>
>         4.3.3    _Resubmission of a Motion_: If a motion has been
>         voted on by the GNSO Council and not adopted, that motion may
>         be resubmitted to the Council for consideration at a
>         subsequent meeting of the Council, subject to the following
>         criteria:
>
>
>         1.     _Explanation_:  The Councilor submitting the motion
>         must also submit an explanation for the resubmission of the
>         motion.  The explanation need not accompany the motion when it
>         is resubmitted; however, the explanation must be submitted no
>         later than the deadline for submitting the motion (_i.e._, no
>         later than 23h59 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day
>         10 calendar days before the Council meeting at which the
>         motion is to be reconsidered).  The explanation does not need
>         to meet any requirements other than being submitted in a
>         timely manner.
>
>
>         2.     _Publication_: The text and explanation of the
>         resubmitted motion must be published (_i.e._, circulated to
>         the Council mailing list) no later than the deadline for
>         submitting the motion.
>
>
>         3.     _Second_:  Upon the second resubmission of a motion
>         (_i.e._, the third time the same motion comes before the
>         Council), the motion must be seconded by a Councilor from each
>         house as a prerequisite for placing the resubmitted motion on
>         the consent agenda.
>


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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Fri Jun 19 20:07:58 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:07:58 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <6829B586-D525-45AE-8F04-669E88B172A5@isoc.be>
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Fantastic news Rudi - very helpful.  Yesterday my plane had to make an emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it before Saturday morning.   Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in place.

Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official - assuming there are no other volunteers?

Anne

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Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

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From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org; gnso-secs at icann.org; Julie Hedlund
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Importance: High

Dear Anne,
Dear all,

As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I'm willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I'm having some more free time to make available for this task.

See you all in BA.

Best regards,

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org>

rudi.vansnick at npoc.org<mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32



Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Anne,

We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.

Thanks,
Julie

From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com>>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning's meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.

Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
Thank you,
Anne

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Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |

One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611

(T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725

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From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)

Attendees:
Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary
Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary
Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary
Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary
Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate

Apologies:
None

ICANN Staff:
Julie Hedlund
Mary Wong
Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
   Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
  Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
  Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
  Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
  Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
  Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
  Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
  Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
  Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
  Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
  Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
  Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.
 Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
  Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
  Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
  Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
  Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
  Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
  Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
  Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
  Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.
  Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
  Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
  Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
  Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction
  Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
  Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
 Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
  Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
  Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
  Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
  Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
  Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
  Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
  Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
  Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
  Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
  Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
  Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
  Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
  Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.




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From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Fri Jun 19 21:21:43 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:21:43 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
 June 2015
In-Reply-To: <3291ED54A36D36449ED57ED8CA77CFD9015B84D9AF@lrodcmbx2.lrlaw.com>
References: <D1A5E1CB.4D4B5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>
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Message-ID: <D1AA0DDE.4D6B7%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Anne,

In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair
nominations/volunteers during a meeting.  So, we could put the position of
the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting,
if you agree.

Kind regards,
Julie

From:  <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
Date:  Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM
To:  'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
Cc:  Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>, "gnso-secs at icann.org"
<gnso-secs at icann.org>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
Subject:  RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
June 2015

> Fantastic news Rudi ? very helpful.  Yesterday my plane had to make an
> emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it
> before Saturday morning.   Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in
> place.
>  
> Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official ? assuming
> there are no other volunteers?
>  
> Anne
>  
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
> Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org; gnso-secs at icann.org; Julie
> Hedlund
> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
> June 2015
> Importance: High
>  
> Dear Anne,
> 
> Dear all,
> 
>  
> 
> As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I?m willing to
> jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I?m
> having some more free time to make available for this task.
> 
>  
> 
> See you all in BA.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Rudi Vansnick
> 
> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
> 
> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
> 
>  
> 
> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> 
> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
> 
> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
> 
>  
>  
>  
>> 
>> Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Anne,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which
>> also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking
>> to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the
>> list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
>> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
>> <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
>> June 2015
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together
>>> to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable
>>> view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10
>>> day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old
>>> language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this
>>> Saturday morning?s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>>  
>>> <image001.gif>
>>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
>>> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
>>> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
>>> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
>>> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
>>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
>>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June
>>> 2015
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements
>>> Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015:
>>> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
>>> 
>>> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
>>> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Attendees:
>>> 
>>> Anne Aikman Scalese ? IPC ? Primary - Chair
>>> 
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP - Primary
>>> 
>>> Rudi Vansnick ? NPOC - Primary
>>> 
>>> Amr Elsadr ? NCUC - Primary
>>> 
>>> Avri Doria ? NCSG ? Primary
>>> 
>>> Lori Schulman ? IPC - Alternate
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Apologies: 
>>> 
>>> None
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ICANN Staff:
>>> 
>>> Julie Hedlund
>>> 
>>> Mary Wong
>>> 
>>> Terri Agnew
>>> 
>>>  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Terri Agnew  
>>> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>>> 
>>>    Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the
>>> resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>>> 
>>>   Amr 
>>> Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2:
>>> "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
>>> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in
>>> addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for
>>> consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI
>>> members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most
>>> were ok with it.
>>> 
>>>  Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked
>>> the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day
>>> waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could
>>> indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should
>>> happen??
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many
>>> times a motion may be resubmitted.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted
>>> is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did
>>> actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great
>>> discussions.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the
>>> discussion never stuck.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took
>>> place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to
>>> have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not
>>> sure I got it.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the
>>> direction 
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>>> 
>>>   Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking
>>> them to draft.
>>> 
>>>  Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving
>>> anything.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos
>>> Aires.
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting
>>> point only and a good thing to react o.
>>> 
>>>   Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>>> 
>>>   Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should
>>> be provided.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to
>>> the list
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as
>>> well.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI
>>> meeting remotely.
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I
>>> won't be there.
>>> 
>>>   Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>>> 
>>>   Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>>> 
>>>   Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>>> 
>>>   Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>>> 
>>>   Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>>> 
>>>   Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>>> 
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From AAikman at lrrlaw.com  Sat Jun 20 09:32:25 2015
From: AAikman at lrrlaw.com (Aikman-Scalese, Anne)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:32:25 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
 June 2015
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Absolutely - let's address this first.
Anne

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From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:22 PM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Rudi Vansnick'
Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org; gnso-secs at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Anne,

In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair nominations/volunteers during a meeting.  So, we could put the position of the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting, if you agree.

Kind regards,
Julie

From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com>>
Date: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM
To: 'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be<mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>, "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Fantastic news Rudi - very helpful.  Yesterday my plane had to make an emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it before Saturday morning.   Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in place.

Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official - assuming there are no other volunteers?

Anne

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From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>; gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>; Julie Hedlund
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Importance: High

Dear Anne,
Dear all,

As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I'm willing to jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I'm having some more free time to make available for this task.

See you all in BA.

Best regards,

Rudi Vansnick
Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
www.npoc.org<http://www.npoc.org>

rudi.vansnick at npoc.org<mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
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Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Anne,

We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting.  I'm just checking to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the list.

Thanks,
Julie

From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com>>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Hi everyone.  I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10 day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this Saturday morning's meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.

Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
Thank you,
Anne

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From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015

Dear All,
Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)

Attendees:
Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC - Primary - Chair
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP - Primary
Rudi Vansnick - NPOC - Primary
Amr Elsadr - NCUC - Primary
Avri Doria - NCSG - Primary
Lori Schulman - IPC - Alternate

Apologies:
None

ICANN Staff:
Julie Hedlund
Mary Wong
Terri Agnew
 ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
   Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
  Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
  Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
  Lori Schulman:good.  I have a bad habit of not muting.
  Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
  Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
  Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified?  Are there ever exceptions?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
  Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
  Amr Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
  Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2: "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
  Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
  Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue.  and the fact that some SCI members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it.  most were ok with it.
 Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
  Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
  Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could indefinitely be resubmitted ?
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should happen??
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
  Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
  Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many times a motion may be resubmitted.
  Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
  Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
  Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did actually talk a great deal about this. :)
  Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot.  But there weren't any great discussions.
  Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
  Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the discussion never stuck.
  Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
  Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not sure I got it.
  Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the direction
  Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
  Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking them to draft.
 Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting.   We are not approving anything.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct.  The next meeting is in Buenos Aires.
  Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting point only and a good thing to react o.
  Lori Schulman:yes.  agree.
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
  Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
  Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
  Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
  Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
  Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should be provided.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to the list
  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as well.
  Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
  Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI meeting remotely.
  Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
  Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I won't be there.
  Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
  Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
  Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
  Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
  Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
  Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.




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From aelsadr at egyptig.org  Sat Jun 20 11:10:02 2015
From: aelsadr at egyptig.org (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:10:02 +0200
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: [ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Dial in details for remote participation for the SCI meetings ICANN Meeting Buenos
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Hi,

Was wondering if there is a problem with the AC room for this meeting. There doesn?t seem to be a host for it, or the meeting hasn?t started. I don?t believe I have my timezone conversion mixed up.

Thanks.

Amr

On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> Dear All
>  
> Please find below the dial in details for the Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation Working Group meetings during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires
> The meetings will be audio streamed, recorded and there will be a transcript available. For audio streaming please click on the link tothe AdobeConnect on the meeting node below.
>  
> Saturday 20 June - Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation Working Group (Closed)
> Room: Retiro B
> 7:45 ? 8:45
> (10:45 ? 11:45UTC)
> Audio Passcode: SCI    AC room: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/
>  
> Saturday 20 June?  Update to the GNSO Council
> http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-gnso-working 
> Room: Retiro B
> 09:00 ? 09:15
> (12:00 ? 12:15 UTC)
> Audio Passcode: UPDATE 1
>  
> 
>  
> Dial in numbers:
> Country
>  
> Toll Numbers
> Freephone/
> Toll Free Number
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> 0800-7610651
> 
> CHILE               
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 1230-020-2863
> 
> CHINA               
> 
> CHINA A:       
> 
> 86-400-810-4789          
> 
> 10800-712-1670
> 
> CHINA               
> 
> CHINA B:       
> 
> 86-400-810-4789          
> 
> 10800-120-1670
> 
> COLOMBIA            
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 01800-9-156474
> 
> CROATIA             
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 080-08-06-309
> 
> CZECH REPUBLIC      
> 
>               
> 
> 420-2-25-98-56-64        
> 
> 800-700-177
> 
> DENMARK             
> 
>               
> 
> 45-7014-0284             
> 
> 8088-8324
> 
> ESTONIA             
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 800-011-1093
> 
> FINLAND             
> 
>               
> 
> 358-9-5424-7162          
> 
> 0-800-9-14610
> 
> FRANCE              
> 
> LYON:          
> 
> 33-4-26-69-12-85         
> 
> 080-511-1496
> 
> FRANCE              
> 
> MARSEILLE:     
> 
> 33-4-86-06-00-85         
> 
> 080-511-1496
> 
> FRANCE              
> 
> PARIS:         
> 
> 33-1-70-70-60-72         
> 
> 080-511-1496
> 
> GERMANY             
> 
>               
> 
> 49-69-2222-20362         
> 
> 0800-664-4247
> 
> GREECE              
> 
>               
> 
> 30-80-1-100-0687         
> 
> 00800-12-7312
> 
> HONG KONG           
> 
>               
> 
> 852-3001-3863            
> 
> 800-962-856
> 
> HUNGARY             
> 
>               
> 
> 36-1-700-8856            
> 
> 06-800-12755
> 
> INDIA               
> 
> BANGALORE:     
> 
> 91-80-61275204           
> 
> INDIA               
> 
> MUMBAI:        
> 
> 91-22-61501629           
> 
> INDIA               
> 
> INDIA A:       
> 
>                         
> 
> 000-800-852-1268
> 
> INDIA               
> 
> INDIA B:       
> 
>                         
> 
> 000-800-001-6305
> 
> INDIA               
> 
> INDIA C:       
> 
>                         
> 
> 1800-300-00491
> 
> INDONESIA           
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 001-803-011-3982
> 
> IRELAND             
> 
>               
> 
> 353-1-246-7646           
> 
> 1800-992-368
> 
> ISRAEL              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 1-80-9216162
> 
> ITALY               
> 
> MILAN:         
> 
> 39-02-3600-6007          
> 
> 800-986-383
> 
> ITALY               
> 
> ROME:          
> 
> 39-06-8751-6018          
> 
> 800-986-383
> 
> ITALY               
> 
> TORINO:        
> 
> 39-011-510-0118          
> 
> 800-986-383
> 
> JAPAN               
> 
> OSAKA:         
> 
> 81-6-7878-2631           
> 
> 0066-33-132439
> 
> JAPAN               
> 
> TOKYO:         
> 
> 81-3-6868-2631           
> 
> 0066-33-132439
> 
> LATVIA              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 8000-3185
> 
> LUXEMBOURG          
> 
>               
> 
> 352-27-000-1364          
> 
> 8002-9246
> 
> MALAYSIA            
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 1-800-81-3065
> 
> MEXICO              
> 
> GUADALAJARA (JAL):
> 
> 52-33-3208-7310          
> 
> 001-866-376-9696
> 
> MEXICO              
> 
> MEXICO CITY:   
> 
> 52-55-5062-9110          
> 
> 001-866-376-9696
> 
> MEXICO              
> 
> MONTERREY:     
> 
> 52-81-2482-0610          
> 
> 001-866-376-9696
> 
> NETHERLANDS
> 
>               
> 
> 31-20-718-8588           
> 
> 0800-023-4378
> 
> NEW ZEALAND         
> 
>               
> 
> 64-9-970-4771            
> 
> 0800-447-722
> 
> NORWAY              
> 
>               
> 
> 47-21-590-062            
> 
> 800-15157
> 
> PANAMA              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 011-001-800-5072065
> 
> PERU                
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 0800-53713
> 
> PHILIPPINES         
> 
>               
> 
> 63-2-858-3716            
> 
> 1800-111-42453
> 
> POLAND              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 00-800-1212572
> 
> PORTUGAL            
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 8008-14052
> 
> ROMANIA             
> 
>               
> 
> 40-31-630-01-79          
> 
> RUSSIA              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 8-10-8002-0144011
> 
> SAUDI ARABIA       
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 800-8-110087
> 
> SINGAPORE           
> 
>               
> 
> 65-6883-9230             
> 
> 800-120-4663
> 
> SLOVAK REPUBLIC     
> 
>               
> 
> 421-2-322-422-25         
> 
> 0800-002066
> 
> SOUTH AFRICA        
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 080-09-80414
> 
> SOUTH KOREA        
> 
>               
> 
> 82-2-6744-1083           
> 
> 00798-14800-7352
> 
> SPAIN               
> 
>               
> 
> 34-91-414-25-33          
> 
> 800-300-053
> 
> SWEDEN              
> 
>               
> 
> 46-8-566-19-348          
> 
> 0200-884-622
> 
> SWITZERLAND
> 
>               
> 
> 41-44-580-6398           
> 
> 0800-120-032
> 
> TAIWAN              
> 
>               
> 
> 886-2-2795-7379          
> 
> 00801-137-797
> 
> THAILAND            
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 001-800-1206-66056
> 
> TURKEY              
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 00-800-151-0516
> 
> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 8000-35702370
> 
> UNITED KINGDOM      
> 
> BIRMINGHAM:
> 
> 44-121-210-9025          
> 
> 0808-238-6029
> 
> UNITED KINGDOM      
> 
> GLASGOW:       
> 
> 44-141-202-3225          
> 
> 0808-238-6029
> 
> UNITED KINGDOM      
> 
> LEEDS:         
> 
> 44-113-301-2125          
> 
> 0808-238-6029
> 
> UNITED KINGDOM      
> 
> LONDON:        
> 
> 44-20-7108-6370          
> 
> 0808-238-6029
> 
> UNITED KINGDOM      
> 
> MANCHESTER:
> 
> 44-161-601-1425          
> 
> 0808-238-6029
> 
> URUGUAY             
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 000-413-598-3421
> 
> USA                 
> 
>               
> 
> 1-517-345-9004           
> 
> 866-692-5726
> 
> VENEZUELA           
> 
>               
> 
>                         
> 
> 0800-1-00-3702
> 




From julie.hedlund at icann.org  Sat Jun 20 11:06:47 2015
From: julie.hedlund at icann.org (Julie Hedlund)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:06:47 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: [ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Dial in
 details for remote participation for the SCI meetings ICANN Meeting Buenos
In-Reply-To: <D672B105-0592-48F8-9D44-93B00E2E73B2@egyptig.org>
References: <c67d3015e13c4af18e3d4a85d239f610@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
 <D672B105-0592-48F8-9D44-93B00E2E73B2@egyptig.org>
Message-ID: <D1AACF1C.4D6F5%julie.hedlund@icann.org>

Dear Amr,

There is a different Adobe Connect room.  It is the one from the SCI
meeting page on the ICANN 53 meetings page.  It is at:
http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-sci.

Thanks,
Julie

On 6/20/15 8:10 AM, "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>Was wondering if there is a problem with the AC room for this meeting.
>There doesn?t seem to be a host for it, or the meeting hasn?t started. I
>don?t believe I have my timezone conversion mixed up.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Amr
>
>On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org> wrote:
>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Dear All
>>  
>> Please find below the dial in details for the Standing Committee on
>>Improvement Implementation Working Group meetings during the ICANN
>>meeting in Buenos Aires
>> The meetings will be audio streamed, recorded and there will be a
>>transcript available. For audio streaming please click on the link tothe
>>AdobeConnect on the meeting node below.
>>  
>> Saturday 20 June - Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation
>>Working Group (Closed)
>> Room: Retiro B
>> 7:45 ? 8:45
>> (10:45 ? 11:45UTC)
>> Audio Passcode: SCI    AC room:
>>http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/
>>  
>> Saturday 20 June?  Update to the GNSO Council
>> http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-gnso-working
>> Room: Retiro B
>> 09:00 ? 09:15
>> (12:00 ? 12:15 UTC)
>> Audio Passcode: UPDATE 1
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Dial in numbers:
>> Country
>>  
>> Toll Numbers
>> Freephone/
>> Toll Free Number
>> ARGENTINA       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 0800-777-0519
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> ADELAIDE:      
>> 
>> 61-8-8121-4842  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> BRISBANE:      
>> 
>> 61-7-3102-0944  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> CANBERRA:      
>> 
>> 61-2-6100-1944  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> MELBOURNE:     
>> 
>> 61-3-9010-7713  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> PERTH:         
>> 
>> 61-8-9467-5223  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> SYDNEY:        
>> 
>> 61-2-8205-8129  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRIA         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 43-1-92-81-113  
>> 
>> 0800-005-259
>> 
>> BELGIUM         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 32-2-400-9861   
>> 
>> 0800-3-8795
>> 
>> BRAZIL          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 55-11-3958-0779 
>> 
>> 0800-7610651
>> 
>> CHILE           
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 1230-020-2863
>> 
>> CHINA           
>> 
>> CHINA A:       
>> 
>> 86-400-810-4789 
>> 
>> 10800-712-1670
>> 
>> CHINA           
>> 
>> CHINA B:       
>> 
>> 86-400-810-4789 
>> 
>> 10800-120-1670
>> 
>> COLOMBIA        
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 01800-9-156474
>> 
>> CROATIA         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 080-08-06-309
>> 
>> CZECH REPUBLIC  
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 420-2-25-98-56-64
>> 
>> 800-700-177
>> 
>> DENMARK         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 45-7014-0284    
>> 
>> 8088-8324
>> 
>> ESTONIA         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 800-011-1093
>> 
>> FINLAND         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 358-9-5424-7162 
>> 
>> 0-800-9-14610
>> 
>> FRANCE          
>> 
>> LYON:          
>> 
>> 33-4-26-69-12-85
>> 
>> 080-511-1496
>> 
>> FRANCE          
>> 
>> MARSEILLE:     
>> 
>> 33-4-86-06-00-85
>> 
>> 080-511-1496
>> 
>> FRANCE          
>> 
>> PARIS:         
>> 
>> 33-1-70-70-60-72
>> 
>> 080-511-1496
>> 
>> GERMANY         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 49-69-2222-20362
>> 
>> 0800-664-4247
>> 
>> GREECE          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 30-80-1-100-0687
>> 
>> 00800-12-7312
>> 
>> HONG KONG       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 852-3001-3863   
>> 
>> 800-962-856
>> 
>> HUNGARY         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 36-1-700-8856   
>> 
>> 06-800-12755
>> 
>> INDIA           
>> 
>> BANGALORE:     
>> 
>> 91-80-61275204  
>> 
>> INDIA           
>> 
>> MUMBAI:        
>> 
>> 91-22-61501629  
>> 
>> INDIA           
>> 
>> INDIA A:       
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 000-800-852-1268
>> 
>> INDIA           
>> 
>> INDIA B:       
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 000-800-001-6305
>> 
>> INDIA           
>> 
>> INDIA C:       
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 1800-300-00491
>> 
>> INDONESIA       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 001-803-011-3982
>> 
>> IRELAND         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 353-1-246-7646  
>> 
>> 1800-992-368
>> 
>> ISRAEL          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 1-80-9216162
>> 
>> ITALY           
>> 
>> MILAN:         
>> 
>> 39-02-3600-6007 
>> 
>> 800-986-383
>> 
>> ITALY           
>> 
>> ROME:          
>> 
>> 39-06-8751-6018 
>> 
>> 800-986-383
>> 
>> ITALY           
>> 
>> TORINO:        
>> 
>> 39-011-510-0118 
>> 
>> 800-986-383
>> 
>> JAPAN           
>> 
>> OSAKA:         
>> 
>> 81-6-7878-2631  
>> 
>> 0066-33-132439
>> 
>> JAPAN           
>> 
>> TOKYO:         
>> 
>> 81-3-6868-2631  
>> 
>> 0066-33-132439
>> 
>> LATVIA          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 8000-3185
>> 
>> LUXEMBOURG      
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 352-27-000-1364 
>> 
>> 8002-9246
>> 
>> MALAYSIA        
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 1-800-81-3065
>> 
>> MEXICO          
>> 
>> GUADALAJARA (JAL):
>> 
>> 52-33-3208-7310 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
>> 
>> MEXICO          
>> 
>> MEXICO CITY:   
>> 
>> 52-55-5062-9110 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
>> 
>> MEXICO          
>> 
>> MONTERREY:     
>> 
>> 52-81-2482-0610 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
>> 
>> NETHERLANDS
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 31-20-718-8588  
>> 
>> 0800-023-4378
>> 
>> NEW ZEALAND     
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 64-9-970-4771   
>> 
>> 0800-447-722
>> 
>> NORWAY          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 47-21-590-062   
>> 
>> 800-15157
>> 
>> PANAMA          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 011-001-800-5072065
>> 
>> PERU            
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 0800-53713
>> 
>> PHILIPPINES     
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 63-2-858-3716   
>> 
>> 1800-111-42453
>> 
>> POLAND          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 00-800-1212572
>> 
>> PORTUGAL        
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 8008-14052
>> 
>> ROMANIA         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 40-31-630-01-79 
>> 
>> RUSSIA          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 8-10-8002-0144011
>> 
>> SAUDI ARABIA    
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 800-8-110087
>> 
>> SINGAPORE       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 65-6883-9230    
>> 
>> 800-120-4663
>> 
>> SLOVAK REPUBLIC 
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 421-2-322-422-25
>> 
>> 0800-002066
>> 
>> SOUTH AFRICA    
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 080-09-80414
>> 
>> SOUTH KOREA     
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 82-2-6744-1083  
>> 
>> 00798-14800-7352
>> 
>> SPAIN           
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 34-91-414-25-33 
>> 
>> 800-300-053
>> 
>> SWEDEN          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 46-8-566-19-348 
>> 
>> 0200-884-622
>> 
>> SWITZERLAND
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 41-44-580-6398  
>> 
>> 0800-120-032
>> 
>> TAIWAN          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 886-2-2795-7379 
>> 
>> 00801-137-797
>> 
>> THAILAND        
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 001-800-1206-66056
>> 
>> TURKEY          
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 00-800-151-0516
>> 
>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 8000-35702370
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
>> 
>> BIRMINGHAM:
>> 
>> 44-121-210-9025 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
>> 
>> GLASGOW:       
>> 
>> 44-141-202-3225 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
>> 
>> LEEDS:         
>> 
>> 44-113-301-2125 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
>> 
>> LONDON:        
>> 
>> 44-20-7108-6370 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
>> 
>> MANCHESTER:
>> 
>> 44-161-601-1425 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> URUGUAY         
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 000-413-598-3421
>> 
>> USA             
>> 
>>               
>> 
>> 1-517-345-9004  
>> 
>> 866-692-5726
>> 
>> VENEZUELA       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 0800-1-00-3702
>> 
>
>
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From nathalie.peregrine at icann.org  Sat Jun 20 11:08:36 2015
From: nathalie.peregrine at icann.org (Nathalie Peregrine)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:08:36 +0000
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: [gnso-secs] Re: [ntfy-gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Dial in details for
 remote participation for the SCI meetings ICANN Meeting Buenos
In-Reply-To: <D672B105-0592-48F8-9D44-93B00E2E73B2@egyptig.org>
References: <c67d3015e13c4af18e3d4a85d239f610@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
 <D672B105-0592-48F8-9D44-93B00E2E73B2@egyptig.org>
Message-ID: <D1AB1642.87255%nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>


Hi Amr,

Please join here; https://icann.adobeconnect.com/eze53-retirob

Thanks!

On 6/20/15, 1:10 PM, "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>Was wondering if there is a problem with the AC room for this meeting.
>There doesn?t seem to be a host for it, or the meeting hasn?t started. I
>don?t believe I have my timezone conversion mixed up.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Amr
>
>On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org> wrote:
>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Dear All
>>  
>> Please find below the dial in details for the Standing Committee on
>>Improvement Implementation Working Group meetings during the ICANN
>>meeting in Buenos Aires
>> The meetings will be audio streamed, recorded and there will be a
>>transcript available. For audio streaming please click on the link tothe
>>AdobeConnect on the meeting node below.
>>  
>> Saturday 20 June - Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation
>>Working Group (Closed)
>> Room: Retiro B
>> 7:45 ? 8:45
>> (10:45 ? 11:45UTC)
>> Audio Passcode: SCI    AC room:
>>http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/
>>  
>> Saturday 20 June?  Update to the GNSO Council
>> http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-gnso-working
>> Room: Retiro B
>> 09:00 ? 09:15
>> (12:00 ? 12:15 UTC)
>> Audio Passcode: UPDATE 1
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Dial in numbers:
>> Country
>>  
>> Toll Numbers
>> Freephone/
>> Toll Free Number
>> ARGENTINA       
>> 
>>               
>> 
>>                 
>> 
>> 0800-777-0519
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> ADELAIDE:      
>> 
>> 61-8-8121-4842  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> BRISBANE:      
>> 
>> 61-7-3102-0944  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> CANBERRA:      
>> 
>> 61-2-6100-1944  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> MELBOURNE:     
>> 
>> 61-3-9010-7713  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> PERTH:         
>> 
>> 61-8-9467-5223  
>> 
>> 1-800-657-260
>> 
>> AUSTRALIA       
>> 
>> SYDNEY:        
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>> 61-2-8205-8129  
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>> 1-800-657-260
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>> AUSTRIA         
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>> 43-1-92-81-113  
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>> 0800-005-259
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>> BELGIUM         
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>> 32-2-400-9861   
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>> 55-11-3958-0779 
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>> 1230-020-2863
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>> CHINA A:       
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>> 86-400-810-4789 
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>> 10800-712-1670
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>> CHINA B:       
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>> 86-400-810-4789 
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>> 10800-120-1670
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>> COLOMBIA        
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>> 01800-9-156474
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>> 080-08-06-309
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>> 420-2-25-98-56-64
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>> 800-700-177
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>> DENMARK         
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>> 45-7014-0284    
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>> 8088-8324
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>> ESTONIA         
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>> 800-011-1093
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>> FINLAND         
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>> 358-9-5424-7162 
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>> 0-800-9-14610
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>> FRANCE          
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>> LYON:          
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>> 33-4-26-69-12-85
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>> 080-511-1496
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>> FRANCE          
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>> MARSEILLE:     
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>> 33-4-86-06-00-85
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>> 080-511-1496
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>> FRANCE          
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>> PARIS:         
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>> 33-1-70-70-60-72
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>> 080-511-1496
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>> GERMANY         
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>>               
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>> 49-69-2222-20362
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>> 0800-664-4247
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>> GREECE          
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>> 30-80-1-100-0687
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>> 00800-12-7312
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>> HONG KONG       
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>>               
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>> 852-3001-3863   
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>> 800-962-856
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>> HUNGARY         
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>> 36-1-700-8856   
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>> 06-800-12755
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>> INDIA           
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>> BANGALORE:     
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>> 91-80-61275204  
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>> INDIA           
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>> MUMBAI:        
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>> 91-22-61501629  
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>> INDIA           
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>> INDIA A:       
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>> 000-800-852-1268
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>> INDIA           
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>> INDIA B:       
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>> 000-800-001-6305
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>> INDIA           
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>> INDIA C:       
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>>                 
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>> 1800-300-00491
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>> INDONESIA       
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>> 001-803-011-3982
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>> IRELAND         
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>> 353-1-246-7646  
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>> 1800-992-368
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>> ISRAEL          
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>> 1-80-9216162
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>> ITALY           
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>> MILAN:         
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>> 39-02-3600-6007 
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>> 800-986-383
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>> ITALY           
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>> ROME:          
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>> 39-06-8751-6018 
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>> 800-986-383
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>> ITALY           
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>> TORINO:        
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>> 39-011-510-0118 
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>> 800-986-383
>> 
>> JAPAN           
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>> OSAKA:         
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>> 81-6-7878-2631  
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>> 0066-33-132439
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>> JAPAN           
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>> TOKYO:         
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>> 81-3-6868-2631  
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>> 0066-33-132439
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>> LATVIA          
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>> 8000-3185
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>> LUXEMBOURG      
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>>               
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>> 352-27-000-1364 
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>> 8002-9246
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>> MALAYSIA        
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>>               
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>>                 
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>> 1-800-81-3065
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>> MEXICO          
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>> GUADALAJARA (JAL):
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>> 52-33-3208-7310 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
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>> MEXICO          
>> 
>> MEXICO CITY:   
>> 
>> 52-55-5062-9110 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
>> 
>> MEXICO          
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>> MONTERREY:     
>> 
>> 52-81-2482-0610 
>> 
>> 001-866-376-9696
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>> NETHERLANDS
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>>               
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>> 31-20-718-8588  
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>> 0800-023-4378
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>> NEW ZEALAND     
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>> 64-9-970-4771   
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>> 0800-447-722
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>> NORWAY          
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>> 47-21-590-062   
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>> 800-15157
>> 
>> PANAMA          
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>>                 
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>> 011-001-800-5072065
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>> PERU            
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>>               
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>>                 
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>> 0800-53713
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>> PHILIPPINES     
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>>               
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>> 63-2-858-3716   
>> 
>> 1800-111-42453
>> 
>> POLAND          
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>>               
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>> 00-800-1212572
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>> PORTUGAL        
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>> 8008-14052
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>> ROMANIA         
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>> 40-31-630-01-79 
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>> RUSSIA          
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>> 8-10-8002-0144011
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>> SAUDI ARABIA    
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>> 800-8-110087
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>> SINGAPORE       
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>>               
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>> 65-6883-9230    
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>> 800-120-4663
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>> SLOVAK REPUBLIC 
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>>               
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>> 421-2-322-422-25
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>> 0800-002066
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>> SOUTH AFRICA    
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>> 080-09-80414
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>> SOUTH KOREA     
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>> 82-2-6744-1083  
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>> SPAIN           
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>> 34-91-414-25-33 
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>> 800-300-053
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>> SWEDEN          
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>> 46-8-566-19-348 
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>> 0200-884-622
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>> SWITZERLAND
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>>               
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>> 41-44-580-6398  
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>> 0800-120-032
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>> TAIWAN          
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>>               
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>> 886-2-2795-7379 
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>> 00801-137-797
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>> THAILAND        
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>> 001-800-1206-66056
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>> TURKEY          
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>> 00-800-151-0516
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>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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>>               
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>>                 
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>> 8000-35702370
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
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>> BIRMINGHAM:
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>> 44-121-210-9025 
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>> 0808-238-6029
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>> UNITED KINGDOM  
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>> GLASGOW:       
>> 
>> 44-141-202-3225 
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>> 0808-238-6029
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>> UNITED KINGDOM  
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>> LEEDS:         
>> 
>> 44-113-301-2125 
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>> 0808-238-6029
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>> UNITED KINGDOM  
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>> LONDON:        
>> 
>> 44-20-7108-6370 
>> 
>> 0808-238-6029
>> 
>> UNITED KINGDOM  
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>> MANCHESTER:
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>> 44-161-601-1425 
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>> 0808-238-6029
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>> URUGUAY         
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>>               
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>>                 
>> 
>> 000-413-598-3421
>> 
>> USA             
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>>               
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>> 1-517-345-9004  
>> 
>> 866-692-5726
>> 
>> VENEZUELA       
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>>               
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>>                 
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>> 0800-1-00-3702
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