[gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June 2015
Julie Hedlund
julie.hedlund at icann.org
Fri Jun 19 21:21:43 UTC 2015
Anne,
In the past we have discussed and confirmed Chair/Vice Chair
nominations/volunteers during a meeting. So, we could put the position of
the Vice Chair and Rudi's offer first on the agenda for Saturday's meeting,
if you agree.
Kind regards,
Julie
From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
Date: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:07 PM
To: 'Rudi Vansnick' <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>, "gnso-secs at icann.org"
<gnso-secs at icann.org>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
June 2015
> Fantastic news Rudi very helpful. Yesterday my plane had to make an
> emergency landing and for a few hours I thought I would not be able to make it
> before Saturday morning. Very good to know there will now be a Vice Chair in
> place.
>
> Will staff please advise the procedure for making this official assuming
> there are no other volunteers?
>
> Anne
>
> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
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>
>
>
>
> From: Rudi Vansnick [mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:59 AM
> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
> Cc: Terri Agnew; gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org; gnso-secs at icann.org; Julie
> Hedlund
> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
> June 2015
> Importance: High
>
> Dear Anne,
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> As I did not see anyone volunteering for the vice-chair seat, I¹m willing to
> jump in. Having finished a PDP WG, and ending my ISOC Board mandate, I¹m
> having some more free time to make available for this task.
>
>
>
> See you all in BA.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Rudi Vansnick
>
> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
>
> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
>
>
>
> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
>
> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
>
> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Op 16-jun.-2015, om 15:24 heeft Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>> Hi Anne,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have some language that had been previously suggested by Mary and which
>> also is the language Amr retrieved prior to our meeting. I'm just checking
>> to see if we want to make any changes to it before we (or Amr) send it to the
>> list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 2:14 PM
>> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org"
>> <gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org>
>> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] RE: MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04
>> June 2015
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone. I had understood that Amr and staff would be working together
>>> to put out a general e-mail asking whether there is a generally favorable
>>> view toward the issue of giving resubmitted motions the benefit of the 10
>>> day waiver rule and that this general e-mail might include at least some old
>>> language drafted previously by Mary to spark our discussion for this
>>> Saturday morning¹s meeting at 7:45 am in the GNSO Council meeting room.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could staff please advise as to status of this effort?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>> <image001.gif>
>>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel
>>> Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
>>> One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
>>> (T) 520.629.4428 | (F) 520.879.4725
>>> AAikman at LRRLaw.com | www.LRRLaw.com <http://www.lrrlaw.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:05 PM
>>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc at icann.org
>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
>>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 04 June
>>> 2015
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements
>>> Implementation meeting held on Thursday, 04 June 2015:
>>> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-04jun15-en.mp3
>>>
>>> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jun>
>>> (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attendees:
>>>
>>> Anne Aikman Scalese IPC Primary - Chair
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ISPCP - Primary
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick NPOC - Primary
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr NCUC - Primary
>>>
>>> Avri Doria NCSG Primary
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman IPC - Alternate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apologies:
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN Staff:
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund
>>>
>>> Mary Wong
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew
>>>
>>> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew
>>> Adobe Chat Transcript 04 June 2015
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI call on the 4th June 2015
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:Where is the mute symbol?
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew:Lori your mic isn't active
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:good. I have a bad habit of not muting.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:I can hear you Anne.
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew:Lost audio, one moment rejoining
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:Am I still disqualified? Are there ever exceptions?
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:is it the wish of anybody (eg council) that the
>>> resubmitted motion should benefit from the rule?
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:quid if motion content/context is changed ?
>>>
>>> Amr
>>> Elsadr:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvem-impl-sc/msg01201.html
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:sorry Anne, I overread it. It's now clear, thanks
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:This is the language Mary suggested adding to 3.3.2:
>>> "Resubmitted motions made pursuant to Section 4.3.3 of these Operating
>>> Procedures after the Submission Deadline must meet these requirements in
>>> addition to those detailed in Section 4.3.3 in order to be eligible for
>>> consideration by the GNSO Council under this Section 3.3.2."
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:what's the feeling of the councils in this ? in favor ?
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:i think clarity was the issue. and the fact that some SCI
>>> members were unhappy with the way our last recommendation had left it. most
>>> were ok with it.
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:put after it haad been poked at enough and after the SCI asked
>>> the council to please make this an issue we could work on, we did.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:Yes, per what Amr is saying - first question is whether 10-day
>>> waiver rule can/should apply to resubmitted motions
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:if the 10-day waiver is applied, a resubmitted motion could
>>> indefinitely be resubmitted ?
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:@Mary, I thought that is the wish, so it should
>>> happen??
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:@Anne, that works too - Chair's call :)
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: I don't think the 10-day waiver rule affects how many
>>> times a motion may be resubmitted.
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:@Amr and Rudi: I think whether a motion can be resubmitted
>>> is governed by the rules in 4.3.3.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:@Anne: Correct.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Julie.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:Yes, a fresh start
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:For some reason, I seem to be the only one who thinks we did
>>> actually talk a great deal about this. :)
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:Amr, you did talk about it a lot. But there weren't any great
>>> discussions.
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:@Mary: +1
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:thee were one or two people who kept bringing it up , but the
>>> discussion never stuck.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:Greg engaged in this discussion quite a bit. Discussions took
>>> place both on-list and on calls, if I recall correctly.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:@Amr, that's right - there was discussion but people seemed to
>>> have different ideas about what the agreed conclusion was.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:@Anne: I'm sorry, could you clarify your concern again. Not
>>> sure I got it.
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we are now in a state where we need to finalize the
>>> direction
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:i'm ambivalent on this issue.
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:staff should draft
>>>
>>> Avri Doria:i dont mind allowing them to draft, i am not sure about asking
>>> them to draft.
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:There is no harm in starting drafting. We are not approving
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:@Anne: That is correct. The next meeting is in Buenos
>>> Aires.
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:I agree with Mary's point that a draft would be a starting
>>> point only and a good thing to react o.
>>>
>>> Lori Schulman:yes. agree.
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:@Anne: It is the 20th early in the morning.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:The usual "happy" hour :)
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:at 7am ? ;-)
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Happy hour isn't supposed to be all about coffee!!
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Saturday 7:45
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:@Wolf-Ulright I think that's correct.
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:GNSO starts at 9:00
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:Am I not getting through?
>>>
>>> Terri Agnew:@Amr your audio is cutting out
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:The way I see it, both the request and the explanation should
>>> be provided.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:@Amr, staff will send you something to review before sending to
>>> the list
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:@Mary: I'll dig up what I came up with and fwd it to you as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:Gerat, thanks!
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I won't be in BA, but will participate in the SCI
>>> meeting remotely.
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:@Amr, so it's confirmed you can't come? :(
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:Have personal stuff I need to sort out at that time. Sorry I
>>> won't be there.
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick:thanks Anne for chairing this meeting
>>>
>>> Mary Wong:Sorry we won't see you
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:@Anne: Mary and I are drafting some slides.
>>>
>>> Julie Hedlund:We will send them to you to review.
>>>
>>> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Anne and all. Bye.
>>>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:Thanks Anne and bye to all
>>>
>>> Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC member:Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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