<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear All:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>My proposal was for us to simply state our decision and the explain our rationale for the decision to the GNSO. Here is some proposed text:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;
">The SCI was asked to consider the current GNSO Council informal practice whereby a party may request the deferral of a motion to a later date. The SCI discussed this practice and whether there was a need to create a procedure to formalize this informal practice. After much debate, the SCI concluded that the current practice of allowing for the deferral of motions was done as a matter of courtesy at the discretion of the Chair of the GNSO Council. For this reason, the SCI concluded that there was no need to create a formal procedure at this time. However, the SCI felt that it was necessary to explicitly state that there is no rule that the Chair must always exercise his or her discretion in the affirmative. Given that the current informal practice is at the discretion of the Chair, the Chair can exercise that same discretion in considering whether to grant or deny any request and can also exercise his or her discretion
when determining how to handle any specific situation that may occur with regard to this informal practice. . . . </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">We should probably add some language about the neutral position of the GNSO Chair and reference the provision that currently exist for dealing with a perception that the Chair is not acting in a neutral manner. I just didn't have all those references handy, but I want to get this out to the list in time for everyone to consider before the next call.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;
"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">J. Scott</div><div> </div><div><font style="color: rgb(96, 0, 191); font-weight: bold; font-family: tahoma, times, serif; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="garamond, 'new york', times, serif">j. scott evans - head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans@yahoo.com</font><br></font><br></div><div id="ynano_hooks_page" style="display:none;"></div><div id="ynano_hooks_page" style="display:none;"></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "KnobenW@telekom.de"
<KnobenW@telekom.de><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> marika.konings@icann.org <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 6, 2012 7:35 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] AW: SCI<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv611013466">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv611013466738373414-06092012">Thanks Marika, I just share it with the
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<div><span lang="de"><font size="2" face="Courier New">Best regards</font></span>
<br><span lang="de"><font size="2" face="Courier New">Wolf-Ulrich</font></span> </div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>Von:</b> Marika Konings
[mailto:marika.konings@icann.org] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 6.
September 2012 14:34<br><b>An:</b> Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re:
SCI<br></font><br></div>
<div>Hi Wolf,</div>
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<div>Please see the transcript below.</div>
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<div>With best regards,</div>
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<div>Marika</div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; ">Julie Hedlund:Hi Marika
I just</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Julie
Hedlund:joined</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Marika
Konings:Hi Julie</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Marika
Konings:Analysis is up now.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:The
opinion that says Avri can be marked as NCSG.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:I think there has already been an issue, the problem was there was no
formal process for considering the issue</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:@
Avri: ltd to one to ensure no stonewalling</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:BC
supports status quo</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:Agree
with argument; but safeguard the principle</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:My
point Avri!</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:If we leave it as is, then I think we need be very specific in our
reasoning by pointing out that we believe that the Chair has the
discretion to deny. That needs to be clearly ennunciated.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:What
happens if the chair is biased for or against?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:bias
by way of affiliation</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:Good question Anne.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:I thought Stephane clearly stated that he could NOT deny request because
he had no process for doing so. Hence, theis issue coming to
the SCIU</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:Except
in PDPD's where it has been enshrined, it is just a priactice and practice
belongs to the chair.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:SCI</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:PDP's
not PDPD's</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:Chair cannot choose without authority to do so in governance
documents, I think.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:Principle should not depend on which particular individual
holds the position of Chair of the GNSO. Authority to override a
deferral should be clear if it is needed.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:If you want to keep it as is, I think that we need to clearly state that
the Chair has discretion to deny or to put to a vote. </div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:agree with J Scott</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:In other words, clearly state that the request does not HAVE to be
automatically granted</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:@ J
+1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:Agree with J. Scott and Ray but we should cite to the basis for
this opinion by SCI.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:8 days
for larger institutions that make up the BC or ISCP need more than 8 days
Avri</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:Anne-perhaps can cite the rationale as the checks balances that exist
in procedures for the chair to always act neutral</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:Yes, but overriding a deferral may not be seen as
"neutral".</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:in that situation, there are procedures for others to bring that
complaint, I believe</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:Yes, but do we really want to put the GNSO Chair in that
position in relation to complaints?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:i
disagree with coffying what the chair can and can't do.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:coffying -
codifying.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:@
Anne: we are only giving recommendations back to council at teh SCI</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:SCI
recommendations</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:each
chair gets to interpret on her own.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:Let
the Chair's authority be challenged by test of the principle</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:and if
she is deemd to have done wrong by the g-council, she can be removed or not
re-elected. Otherwise we will need 10 volumes of g-council
rules.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:agree with ron and avri</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:@ J -
fully agree with your summation</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> avri:The
working on this goes too far for me. I do not think we should be
offereing specific alternatives.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:agree with j scott</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:The
reasoning doesn't havet to go to far into the weeds</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Anne
Aikman-Scalese:J. Scott, Are you saying the deferral practice
itself is discretionary with the Chair so the denial of a deferral is also
discretionary?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:Anne: Yes, picking up on Avri's point, the deferral practice
is courtesy that has historically been extended at the discretion of the
Chair.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:And that there shoujld be no assumption that that disrection must be
exercised in all cases.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ron A:Good
bye all</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> J. Scott
Evans:or extended I should say</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Ray Fassett
- RySG:thanks Wolf</div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Consolas; "> Wolf
Knoben:Thanks all</div></div>
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05:53<br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To: </span>Marika Konings <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject: </span>SCI<br></div>
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<div>Hi Marika,</div>
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<div>Could you please provide us with the chat of the last SCI meeting?</div>
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<div><font face="Courier New,monospace">Thanks and</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New,monospace">Best regards</font></div>
<div><font face="Courier New,monospace">Wolf-Ulrich Knoben </font></div>
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