Thks Julie for the reminder... I have no objection of course to Wolf-Ulrich's proposal below.<div><br></div><div>Alain<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:05 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div style="font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;word-wrap:break-word">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial"><span>All,</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<div><span><font face="Arial"><font><span>p</span>er its charter, the SCI is expected to take
decisions using a 'full consensus' process ("when no one in the group speaks
against the recommendation in its last readings").</font></font></span></div>
<div><span></span><font face="Arial"><span>Obviously it would be ideal if all members support a
certain position.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font><span>It
would <span>also </span>be ideal if we find
consensus today which is the deadline for motions before the next counciil
meeting. But in order to reduce time pressure I could imagine the option to
s</span><span>ubmit the <span>draft </span>motion<span>
today</span>, noting that there are some issues that are still being discussed
by the SCI which may result in withdrawal of the motion and agenda item if no
agreement can be found.</span></font></font></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial"><span><strong>If there is no objection I'll do so accordingly
at the end of the day.</strong></span></font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial"><span></span></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial">Thanks for this
valuable discussion and for your understanding.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial">Best
regards</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial">Wolf-Ulrich</font></span></div></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:14px"><strong><font color="#999999" size="1" face="Arial"></font></strong><br></div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:14px">
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From: </span>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To: </span>Alain Berranger <<a href="mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com" target="_blank">alain.berranger@gmail.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>" <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR
REVIEW: Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div style="font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;word-wrap:break-word">
<div>Alain,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>One consideration is that if we add that language it is a substantive
change from the original footnote text. The previous suggestion —
adding the word "stated" and deleting "until further notice" --- was deemed
by the SCI to be a minor clarification and thus didn't require us to open a
Public Comment Forum on new language. As discussed during last
Thursday's meeting, any substantive change to the text that was presented in
the public comment period that just ended on 03 December would require that
the revised text go out for public comment again at a minimum of 21 days.
Staff pointed out that with the holiday we would probably need a
longer period, perhaps 30 days.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>With best regards,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Julie</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</div>
<div><br></div><span>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From: </span>Alain Berranger <<a href="mailto:alain.berranger@gmail.com" target="_blank">alain.berranger@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:41
PM<br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To: </span>Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR
REVIEW: Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>Can we simply insert that: ... when judged necessary by the Council,
the GNSO Chair can clarify with the Board any required change in scope,
timing, and priority...
<div><br></div>
<div>Alain<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>We all stick to find consensus. I didn't want to
suppress any discussion, just bring it to the point.<br><br>First the
wording must be accepted by all of us, then the procedure should be
agreed.<br><br>Anne, do you have a suggestion for the wording which could
incorporate the concern? Or do others have?<br>
<div><br><br>Best
regards<br>Wolf-Ulrich<br><br><br>-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----<br></div>Von: <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>
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Im Auftrag von Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember
2012 17:45<br>An: 'Avri Doria'; <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>
<div>
<div>Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote<br><br><br>Avri, thanks for sticking up
for the process of consensus. I don't think we are
unanimous.<br>Anne<br><br><br>Anne E. Aikman-Scalese<br>Of
Counsel<br>Lewis and Roca LLP . Suite 700<br>One South Church Avenue .
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On Behalf Of Avri Doria<br>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:39 AM<br>To:
<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>Subject:
Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br><br><br>Hi,<br><br>Are we unanimous on this issue? I had
the impression Anne was still concerned.<br><br>avri<br><br>On 11 Dec
2012, at 14:28, <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>> <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>>
wrote:<br><br>> Thanks Marika for clarification.<br>><br>> I'll
forward the motion (clear) attached with the revised footnote (redline) to
the council list by tomorrows deadline for the 20 Dec council
meeting.<br>><br>><br>> Best regards<br>>
Wolf-Ulrich<br>><br>><br>><br>> -----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----<br>> Von: Marika Konings [mailto:<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>]<br>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 10:52<br>> An: Aikman-Scalese,
Anne; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; <a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>;<br>> <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>
Betreff: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a<br>>
PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote<br>><br>> Anne, Staff typically
provides the Board with status updates on issues<br>> that are of
significant interest to the Board, but there are also<br>> examples of
direct communication between the GNSO Council and the<br>> Board after
the GNSO Council decided to terminate a PDP that had been<br>>
initiated to provide input to the ICANN Board (see for example the
Vertical Integration PDP:<br>> <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg09754.html" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg09754.html</a>).<br>>
It is then up to the Board to decide how to proceed. For example,
in<br>> the case of vertical integration, the Board made the
following<br>> decision, absent GNSO Council recommendations:<br>>
<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-09nov10-en.htm" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-09nov10-en.htm</a>.<br>><br>>
With best regards,<br>><br>> Marika<br>><br>> On 10/12/12
19:19, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>>
wrote:<br>><br>>> Many thanks, Marika - very helpful.
Whether or not the Board calls<br>>> its questions a "Request
for an Issue Report" that then results in<br>>> initiation of a PDP
seems less important substantively than the<br>>> reference to
continuing consultation with the Board as to "scope,<br>>>
timing, and priority". This discussion illustrates why I think
there<br>>> has to be some provision for communication with or
involvement of the<br>>> Board in connection with a GNSO vote to
suspend a PDP which is<br>>> commenced as a result of a Board
request for "answers" or for an<br>>> Issue Report. A unilateral
suspension by GNSO of a PDP (even on<br>>> Supermajority vote) where
the PDP was initiated as a result of such a<br>>> Board request, is
problematic if the Board needs to act. Is there a<br>>> provision
for providing the Board with a full report as to the status<br>>> of
the PDP and maybe summarizing the differing opinions expressed<br>>>
where no consensus was reached in the event of termination or<br>>>
suspension? We should not leave the Board in the position where
it<br>>> has to say, "We cannot act because the GNSO has not acted
and has not<br>>> answered our questions." This is
particularly unsatisfactory where the GAC has asked the Board to address
an issue.<br>>> Anne<br>>><br>>><br>>> Anne E.
Aikman-Scalese<br>>> Of Counsel<br>>> Lewis and Roca LLP .
Suite 700<br>>> One South Church Avenue . Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611
Tel (520)<br>>> 629-4428 . Fax <a href="tel:%28520%29%20879-4725" value="+15208794725" target="_blank">(520) 879-4725</a><a href="mailto:AAikman@LRLaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@LRLaw.com</a> .<br>>> <a href="http://www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman" target="_blank">www.LewisandRoca.com/Aikman</a> P Please consider the
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On Behalf Of Marika<br>>> Konings<br>>> Sent: Sunday, December
09, 2012 4:05 AM<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>; <a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>
>>
Subject: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote<br>>><br>>> To
clarify, there are currently two Board requested PDPs, one on
the<br>>> RAA ('Resolved (2011.10.28.33), the Board also requests
the creation<br>>> of an Issue Report to undertake a GNSO policy
development process<br>>> (PDP) as quickly as possible to address
remaining items suited for a<br>>> PDP) and the recently requested
Issue Report on the purpose of Whois<br>>> ('hereby directs
preparation of an Issue Report on the purpose of<br>>> collecting
and maintaining gTLD registration data, and on solutions<br>>> to
improve accuracy and access to gTLD registration data, as part
of<br>>> a Board-initiated GNSO policy development process'). As
pointed out<br>>> by Avri, for PDPs initiated by the ICANN Board,
there is no<br>>> intermediate vote by the GNSO Council, the PDP
automatically<br>>> proceeds. However, the ICANN Bylaws foresee that
in the case of a<br>>> Board initiated PDP, 'the Board should
provide a mechanism by which<br>>> the GNSO Council can
consult with the Board to provide information<br>>> on the scope,
timing, and priority of the request for an Issue<br>>> Report'. In
addition to this mechanism, the ICANN Board and GNSO<br>>> Council
meet at every ICANN meeting where there is another<br>>> opportunity
to discuss and/or express concerns with regard to Board<br>>>
requested PDPs. For example, in relation to the RAA PDP, as a
result<br>>> of dialogue between the ICANN Board and GNSO Council it
was agreed to<br>>> 'suspend' the PDP until the RAA negotiations
were near completion so that it would be clear which topics would need to
be included in the PDP.<br>>><br>>> With best
regards,<br>>><br>>> Marika<br>>><br>>> On
09/12/12 08:12, "<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>" <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>>
wrote:<br>>><br>>>><br>>>> Thanks Avri, very
helpful for understanding.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>
Best regards<br>>>>
Wolf-Ulrich<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>>>> Von: <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>]
Im Auftrag von Avri<br>>>> Doria<br>>>> Gesendet:
Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2012 05:39<br>>>> An: <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>
Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>
Hi,<br>>>><br>>>> As I understand it, they have asked
g-council for answers, but they<br>>>> have not actually used the
by-laws mechanism of requesting a PDP.<br>>>> The g-council has
used the PDP as a method of deciding on answers.<br>>>> These are
still g-council initiated PDPs. Had the Board asked
for<br>>>> the PDP, there never would have been a vote in
g-council to initiate the PDP.<br>>>>
Specifically:<br>>>><br>>>> "<br>>>> March 212
20120314-1<br>>>> Motion on the Initiation of a Policy
Development Process (PDP) on 'thick'<br>>>>
Whois<br>>>><br>>>> Whereas the GNSO Council requested
an Issue Report on 'thick' Whois<br>>>> at its meeting on 22
September 2011<br>>>> (seehttp://<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201109" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201109</a>);<br>>>><br>>>>
....<br>>>> "<br>>>><br>>>> "<br>>>>
November 2012 20121017-2<br>>>> Motion on the Initiation of a
Policy Development Process on the<br>>>> Protection of Certain
International Organization Names in all
GTLDs.<br>>>><br>>>> Whereas the GNSO Council requested
an Issue Report on the topic of<br>>>> whether ICANN should
approve additional protections for the names of<br>>>>
international organizations at the first and second levels in
the<br>>>> New gTLD Program.<br>>>><br>>>>
....<br>>>> "<br>>>><br>>>> Under the by-laws,
ANNEX A: GNSO POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS<br>>>><br>>>>
"<br>>>> Section 3. Requesting an Issue
Report<br>>>><br>>>> Board Request. The Board may
request an Issue Report by instructing<br>>>> the GNSO Council
("Council") to begin the process outlined the PDP Manual.<br>>>>
In the event the Board makes a request for an Issue Report,
the<br>>>> Board should provide a mechanism by which the GNSO
Council can<br>>>> consult with the Board to provide information
on the scope, timing,<br>>>> and priority of the request for an
Issue Report.<br>>>><br>>>>
....<br>>>><br>>>> Section 5. Initiation of the
PDP<br>>>><br>>>> The Council may initiate the PDP as
follows:<br>>>><br>>>> Board Request: If the Board
requested an Issue Report, the Council,<br>>>> within the
timeframe set forth in thePDP Manual, shall initiate a
PDP.<br>>>> No vote is required for such action.<br>>>>
"<br>>>><br>>>>
avri<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On 9 Dec 2012, at
03:20, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>>
Must be my misunderstanding... I thought both the current whois
PDP<br>>>>> and IOC RC NGO PDP were requested by the ICANN
Board. Anne<br>>>>><br>>>>> Sent from my Android
phone using TouchDown (<a href="http://www.nitrodesk.com" target="_blank">www.nitrodesk.com</a>)<br>>>>><br>>>>>
-----Original Message-----<br>>>>> From: Ron Andruff [<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>]<br>>>>>
Received: Saturday, 08 Dec 2012, 3:06pm<br>>>>> To: 'Avri
Doria' [<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>]; <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>
[<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>]<br>>>>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> I
support Avri's comments as well. The Board's role is to
commit<br>>>>> policy that has been developed through
the bottom up process into<br>>>>> rule by way of
resolution. Although the history of the
Board's<br>>>>> actions to date might prove otherwise,
in an ever-maturing ICANN<br>>>>> environment we should expect
the Board to conform to ICANN's basic<br>>>>>
principles.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I support the footnote
amendment as proposed.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Kind
regards,<br>>>>><br>>>>>
RA<br>>>>><br>>>>> Ronald N.
Andruff<br>>>>> RNA Partners,
Inc.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>
-----Original Message-----<br>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>
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On Behalf Of Avri<br>>>>> Doria<br>>>>> Sent:
Saturday, December 08, 2012 9:47 AM<br>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>
Hi,<br>>>>><br>>>>> I think the question of what
the Board would do if g-council ever<br>>>>> suspended a
PDP that they mandated is an open question. I
expect<br>>>>> they would either wait, question the
postponement, or make one<br>>>>> their preemptory
decisions.<br>>>>> Since the Board has never yet, to my
knowledge, mandated a PDP -<br>>>>> though they can - I
do not think it is a critical issue at this<br>>>>> point, and
in any case think it is a separate issue from
the<br>>>>> suspension mechanism. All other PDPs
are g-council decsions, even<br>>>>> if the issues
report is requested by one of the
ACs.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I am fine with the
footnote. thanks.<br>>>>><br>>>>>
avri<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>>
On 8 Dec 2012, at 18:26, <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>> <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>><br>>>>>
wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>>> Anne and
all,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> this touches the
question whether the board may overrule a council<br>>>>>
decision on suspension because you're expressing an
expectation<br>>>>> that the council should follow a
related board request. I think<br>>>>> this could be the
case depending on a council debate following the<br>>>>>
board request but there is no obligation to do
so.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> With this
understanding, an you agree to the footnote provided
by<br>>>>>
Julie?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Best
regards<br>>>>>>
Wolf-Ulrich<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
Von: <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>]
Im Auftrag von<br>>>>> Aikman-Scalese,
Anne<br>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Dezember 2012
18:43<br>>>>>> An: 'J. Scott Evans'; Julie
Hedlund;<br>>>>>> <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>>
Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> This makes sense.
Is it clear to everyone that if the ICANN Board<br>>>>>
says,<br>>>>> "Sorry, GNSO, we don't want you to suspend
because we need an<br>>>>> answer<br>>>>> - go
back to the drawing board," then that is what will
happen?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Deadlock is deadly
for ICANN. If GNSO can't work effectively
and<br>>>>>> the<br>>>>> Board has to act
(pursuant to GAC Advice or otherwise), then Fadi's<br>>>>>
"oasis"<br>>>>> announced in Dubai becomes more of a
"quagmire" and pressure<br>>>>> increases to take
control away from ICANN.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I
only raise this because it seems to me the question will come
up<br>>>>>> at<br>>>>> the<br>>>>>
GNSO level.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
Anne<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
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From: J. Scott Evans [mailto:<a href="mailto:jscottevans@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jscottevans@yahoo.com</a>]<br>>>>>>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 10:20 AM<br>>>>>> To: Julie
Hedlund; Aikman-Scalese, Anne;<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> I can live with
that and I don't think this require further public<br>>>>>
comment<br>>>>> since it merely clarifies the
suspension.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
jse<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> j. scott evans -
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>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
From: Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>>>>>>
To: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrlaw.com</a>>;<br>>>>>
"<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br>>>>>>
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 8:40 AM<br>>>>>> Subject:
Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a<br>>>>>
PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Thanks Anne.
Then, would you want "until further notice" to
be<br>>>>> deleted?<br>>>>> If so, here's an
amended text for all to
review.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Best
regards,<br>>>>>>
Julie<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> "Suspension is a
STATED time interval during which there is a<br>>>>>
temporary<br>>>>> cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities
are halted upon a<br>>>>> decision of the GNSO Council.
A mere change in milestones or<br>>>>> schedule of the PDP is
not considered a
suspension."<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> From:
<Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@LRLaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@LRLaw.com</a>><br>>>>>>
Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:32 PM<br>>>>>> To: "<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>"<br>>>>>
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>,<br>>>>>
Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>>>>>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> What is the
relationship between "stated" and "until further
notice"?<br>>>>> If<br>>>>> "stated" applies, then
it seems that "until further notice" would<br>>>>> not
apply.<br>>>>>
Anne<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Sent from my Android
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-----Original Message-----<br>>>>>> From: Julie Hedlund [<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>]<br>>>>>>
Received: Thursday, 06 Dec 2012, 2:15pm<br>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a><br>>>>>>
[<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>]<br>>>>>>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending
a<br>>>>> PDP--Proposed<br>>>>> Revised
Footnote<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Dear SCI
members,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> As we discussed
on today's call, J. Scott has proposed a<br>>>>> clarification
to<br>>>>> the footnote text for the PDP Manual, Section 15,
on Suspending a PDP.<br>>>>> Please review the revised
following text with the change in bold<br>>>>>
all<br>>>>>
caps:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> "Suspension is a
STATED time interval during which there is a<br>>>>>
temporary<br>>>>> cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities
are halted upon a<br>>>>> decision of the GNSO Council
until further notice. A mere change<br>>>>> in milestones or
schedule of the PDP is not considered a
suspension."<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> For
reference, I have included the entire section below so
that<br>>>>>> the<br>>>>> footnote may be
viewed in context.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> It was
suggested on the call that if this clarification
is<br>>>>>> accepted<br>>>>> by
the<br>>>>> SCI members it will not require a new public
comment period.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> **Please
send any comments by COB Monday, 10 December so that
if<br>>>>>> the<br>>>>> SCI<br>>>>>
decides to submit a motion it may do so by the deadline
of<br>>>>> Wednesday,<br>>>>>
12<br>>>>>
December.**<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> With best
regards,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>>
Julie<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Julie Hedlund,
Policy Director<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> 15.
Termination of PDP prior to Final
Report<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> The GNSO Council
may terminate or suspend[1] a PDP prior to the<br>>>>>
publication of a Final Report only for significant cause, upon
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orsuspension.<br>>>>> The<br>>>>> following are
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Deadlock. The PDP Team is hopelessly deadlocked and unable
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either the strong<br>>>>> support or a consensus of its
members despite significant time and<br>>>>> resources being
dedicated to the PDP;<br>>>>>> 2.
Changing Circumstances. Events have occurred since the<br>>>>>
initiation<br>>>>> of the PDP that have rendered the PDP moot,
or no longer necessary;<br>>>>> or warranting a
suspension; or<br>>>>>> 3. Lack of Community
Volunteers. Despite several calls for<br>>>>> participation,
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participation.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> If
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the<br>>>>> Council is required to conduct a public comment
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