<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Mickey,</div><div><br></div><div>Do you have suggested changes to the text of the message to Jonathan as Wolf-Ulrich has done? That would be very helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Julie</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Mike O'Conner <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, July 5, 2013 8:34 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council Chair re SCI Charter<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:16 PM, WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; "><div>I don’t think resubmitting a motion is outside the scope of the present charter because submission and handling of motions used to be part of the improvements process (council operating rules).</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
i think there's an underlying question of intent. it's true that almost everything the GNSO does was touched by those committees that sprang out of the Board review. but that's the equivalent of saying that everything is touched by the Constitution of a country.
i think this goes back to the framers of our charter. what did they intend and why?</div><div><br></div><div>a broad interpretation of the charter is:</div><div><br></div><div>- the SCI has a broad mandate to review the operation of the GNSO</div><div>- it lives forever (it is an ongoing function)</div><div><br></div><div>a narrow interpretation is:</div><div><br></div><div>- the SCI reviews issues arising *directly* from the work of the prior committees, and is the last committee in that series</div><div>- it ends, after completing those reviews (it is a project)</div><div><br></div><div>i think a lot of things get easier once that basic clarification is made. decisions about the skills of the group, tasks it takes on, expected deliverables, etc. all get a lot clearer. perhaps we could frame the question the the Council this way?</div><div><br></div><div>mikey</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; "><div>In addition the two bullet points – at least from my point of view – do not limit the SCI existence because of the periodic iteration.</div><div> </div><div>Nevertheless the general question should be discussed. I wonder whether we could achieve in Durban a general “go ahead thinking of a broader SCI scope” by the council and after a while coming back to the council with concrete suggestions. I doubt that
we can expect more guidance.</div><div> </div><div>See my comments below</div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; "><br>
Best regards<br><br>
Wolf-Ulrich <br><br></div><div style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; display: inline; "><div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma"><div> </div><div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="julie.hedlund@icann.org" href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">
Julie Hedlund</a> </div><div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:15 PM</div><div><b>To:</b> <a title="gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">
gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a> </div><div><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO Council Chair re SCI Charter</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; display: inline; "><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear SCI members,</div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "> </div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif">As discussed in our meeting yesterday, below for your review is a draft message alerting Jonathan that the SCI would like to discuss the issues
</font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">concerning</font><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif"> the SCI Charter with the Council during the working session in Durban.</font></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><b><i><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif">Please send any comments by
</font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Friday</font></i></b><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><b><i>, 05 July.</i></b><o:p></o:p></font></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Julie<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">----------------------------- Draft Message to Jonathan ------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">As you know, the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI) will provide an update on its work to the GNSO Council in Durban on 13 July. One of issues the SCI is considering is
an update of its Charter, as we have reported previously. This began as an effort to update the Charter to include procedures to elect the SCI Chair and Vice Chair, but recently the SCI also has considered whether other updates are necessary. After discussing
possible updates the SCI members realized that they need guidance from the GNSO Council as to whether the SCI's work should be limited to a review of the procedures developed in the GNSO Implementations process, or whether the GNSO Council intends for the
SCI to address other procedural issues not related to the improvements process. <strong>
WUK:</strong> <strike>One such example might be the re-submission of a motion, which is an issue the Council asked the SCI to address and for which the SCI currently is considering revised procedures.<o:p></o:p></strike></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">The current Charter states:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">"The GNSO Standing Committee on Improvement Implementation (SCI) will be responsible for reviewing and assessing the effective functioning of recommendations provided by the Operational Steering
Committee (OSC), Policy Process Steering Committee (PPSC) and Policy Development Process Work Team (PDP-WT) and approved by the GNSO Council:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">On request for those recommendations that have been identified to present immediate problems<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">On a periodic timescale for all recommendations in order to identify possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which recommendations should be reviewed)"<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">The SCI seeks guidance from the Council on what is its intent with respect to the duration of the SCI work.
<strong>WUK: </strong><strike>Should the SCI cease to exist when it has completed the second bullet above from the Charter?</strike><strike>Or</strike> Should the SCI continue indefinitely to consider procedural questions as raised
<strong>WUK:</strong><strike> the</strike> <strong>by </strong>the GNSO Council or a group Chartered by the Council?
<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">It seems that these fundamental questions need to be addressed before the SCI can consider revisions to the Charter. The SCI members look forward to discussing these questions with the Council
in Durban.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; "></span> </p></div><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Ron Andruff, Chair, SCI</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; ">PHONE:
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