<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:16 PM, WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>I don’t think resubmitting a motion is outside the scope of the present
charter because submission and handling of motions used to be part of the
improvements process (council operating rules).</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>i think there's an underlying question of intent. it's true that almost everything the GNSO does was touched by those committees that sprang out of the Board review. but that's the equivalent of saying that everything is touched by the Constitution of a country. i think this goes back to the framers of our charter. what did they intend and why?</div><div><br></div><div>a broad interpretation of the charter is:</div><div><br></div><div>- the SCI has a broad mandate to review the operation of the GNSO</div><div>- it lives forever (it is an ongoing function)</div><div><br></div><div>a narrow interpretation is:</div><div><br></div><div>- the SCI reviews issues arising *directly* from the work of the prior committees, and is the last committee in that series</div><div>- it ends, after completing those reviews (it is a project)</div><div><br></div><div>i think a lot of things get easier once that basic clarification is made. decisions about the skills of the group, tasks it takes on, expected deliverables, etc. all get a lot clearer. perhaps we could frame the question the the Council this way?</div><div><br></div><div>mikey</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; ">
<div>In addition the two bullet points – at least from my point of view – do not
limit the SCI existence because of the periodic iteration.</div>
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<div>Nevertheless the general question should be discussed. I wonder whether we
could achieve in Durban a general “go ahead thinking of a broader SCI scope” by
the council and after a while coming back to the council with concrete
suggestions. I doubt that we can expect more guidance.</div>
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<div>See my comments below</div>
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regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich <br><br></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="julie.hedlund@icann.org" href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">Julie Hedlund</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:15 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Draft Note to GNSO
Council Chair re SCI Charter</div></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear
SCI members,</div>
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<div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif">As discussed in our meeting yesterday, below for your
review is a draft message alerting Jonathan that the SCI would like to discuss
the issues </font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">concerning</font><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif"> the SCI Charter with the Council during the working
session in Durban.</font></div></div>
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<div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><b><i><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif">Please send any comments by </font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Friday</font></i></b><font size="3" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><b><i>, 05 July.</i></b><o:p></o:p></font></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Julie<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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Policy Director<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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Draft Message to Jonathan ------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Dear
Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">As you know, the
Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI) will provide an update
on its work to the GNSO Council in Durban on 13 July. One of issues the
SCI is considering is an update of its Charter, as we have reported
previously. This began as an effort to update the Charter to include
procedures to elect the SCI Chair and Vice Chair, but recently the SCI also has
considered whether other updates are necessary. After discussing possible
updates the SCI members realized that they need guidance from the GNSO Council
as to whether the SCI's work should be limited to a review of the procedures
developed in the GNSO Implementations process, or whether the GNSO Council
intends for the SCI to address other procedural issues not related to the
improvements process. <strong>WUK:</strong> <strike>One such example might
be the re-submission of a motion, which is an issue the Council asked the SCI to
address and for which the SCI currently is considering revised
procedures.<o:p></o:p></strike></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">The current Charter
states:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><p style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">"The GNSO Standing
Committee on Improvement Implementation (SCI) will be responsible for reviewing
and assessing the effective functioning of recommendations provided by the
Operational Steering Committee (OSC), Policy Process Steering Committee (PPSC)
and Policy Development Process Work Team (PDP-WT) and approved by the GNSO
Council:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">On request for
those recommendations that have been identified to present immediate
problems<o:p></o:p></span>
</li><li class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">On a periodic
timescale for all recommendations in order to identify possible issues and/or
improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which
recommendations should be reviewed)"<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">The SCI seeks
guidance from the Council on what is its intent with respect to the duration of
the SCI work. <strong>WUK: </strong><strike>Should the SCI cease to exist when
it has completed the second bullet above from the Charter?</strike>
<strike>Or</strike> Should the SCI continue indefinitely to consider procedural
questions as raised <strong>WUK:</strong><strike> the</strike> <strong>by
</strong>the GNSO Council or a group Chartered by the Council?
<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">It seems that these
fundamental questions need to be addressed before the SCI can consider revisions
to the Charter. The SCI members look forward to discussing these questions
with the Council in Durban.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="font-size: medium; font-family: calibri; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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SCI</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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