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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span class="apple-style-span">Dear All, </span><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">The next </span></font><span class="apple-style-span"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting will be held on Tuesday 17 December at 2000 UTC</span></font></span><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0in 0in 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span class="apple-style-span">Please find the MP3 </span>recording of the <span class="apple-style-span">Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on </span><b>Tuesday, 03 December 2013 at 20:00UTC</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20131203-en.mp3" style="font-size: 15px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20131203-en.mp3</a></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">On page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#</a>dec</u></font><br>(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><b style="font-size: 15px; ">Attendees:</b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Ray Fassett- RySG - Primary</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Ronald Andruff Commercial and Business Users Constituency Primary Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ISPCP Primary </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Mikey OConnor ISPCP Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Avri Doria Non Commercial SG Primary Vice-Chair</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Amr Elsadr NCUC - Alternate</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Jennifer Wolfe NCA - primary</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Greg Shatan IPC Alternate</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Marie Laure Lemineur NPOC - Primary</span></font><br><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><b>Apologies:</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Thomas Rickert - NCA</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><b>ICANN Staff:</b><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; ">Mary Wong</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Julia Charvolen</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; "><p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoPlainText" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Let me know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Julia Charvolen</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">For GNSO Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><o:p style="font-size: 15px; "> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><u style="font-size: 15px; ">Adobe Connect chat transcript 03 December 2013:</u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><div style="font-size: medium; "><span style="font-family: Consolas; "> </span>Mike O'Connor:hi Julia</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:i'm gonna dial in...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:great</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:Hi all! Just getting on the call...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Hello</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Hi. Just dialled in.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Same here, Ron.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:Agreed, Mikey. We will circulate today for the members' review.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:@Amr, agreed..</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:I am now dialed in.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Considering the outcome of the WG in the last few weeks, I even believe some of the answers might change. Positive effect for our purpose.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Greg Shatan joined the phone bridge</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:I am just reading it. But is there a limit in terms of number of times it could be re-submitted ?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:thanks!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:astounding! way to go Greg.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:"tabled" is confusing in an international context</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:Yes, perhaps this group can consider an alternative word or just leaving it as "withdrawn" for the example)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Apologies, I need to leave now.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:Thanks Avri</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:see ya Avri</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Will worth with Thomas on email voting before next mtg. I hope.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:Thanks Avri!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Work with ...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Wolf Knoben: do we need No. 4 at all?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:So we should postpone the discussion on email voting?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:As I don't see Thomas in meeting room...?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Wolf Knoben:we don't use "tabled" in the GNSO rules</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Great. Thanks again Greg.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julie Hedlund:Thomas sent his apologies just a few minutes ago and will not be able to attend today.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:@Wolf: +1</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:Thanks Julie.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:I agree it should stay...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC: 4)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Sounds good.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:might just remove the word "consent"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:@Mike: +1</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:yeah. the consent agenda is at the end</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julie Hedlund:@Mikey it is at the beginning of the meeting, prior to the regular agenda.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:argh. Julie's right -- my bad</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julie Hedlund:No worries Mikey ;-0</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:A motion can be seconded at any time up to the calling of the vote.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:Mikey, that's right.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julie Hedlund:+1 Mikey I think that was the intent</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:To clarify - if a vote is required, it can't be on the consent agenda. As Mikey says, the consent agenda notion was a "safeguard" PRIOR to the Council discussion and vote on the actual motion.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:MIckey and myself</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:No nooooo</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Go ahead..</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:please</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:So if this group feels that the safeguard is no longer necessary, then as Mikey says the word "consent" can simply be dropped - so that for second resubmissions (aka third time submission) it would go straight into the main Council agenda provided the two seconds are obtained.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Wolf Knoben:@Mary: that's how I recall the intention</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Ron A:@greg: Is your hand still up? Or do you wish to speak?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:Mary, I think that if the word "consent" is dropped, that makes it more difficult for the motion ot make to the Council's agenda (of any type). As now drafted, a resubmitted motion that gets the two seconds is eligible for the consent agenda; a motion that does not get the two seconds is ineligible for the consent agenda and would go straight to the "main" agenda. If the word "consent" is dropped, then the two seconds are required for the motion to get on the Council's agenda at all.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:I feel a little lost on this topic. What is the context behind the question??</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:@Amr, the question was whether and what process should be used in order to be able to waive a particular GNSO Operating Procedure/rule.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:@Mary..., yes..., I get that. My question is why are we being asked to address this? What brought the question up?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:The GNSO Op Proc does not contain specific wording as to when a particular, specified rule (e.g. 10-day deadline for motions) can be waived and by whom (e.g. Chair's discretion? Need for a vote to allow?)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:@Mary: Good. A concrete example. Why would the Council want to have a waiver on a late submission of a motion?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:here's an example -- a motion came in just a few minutes after the deadline...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:@Amr: I believe a motion on a WG final report was submitted in Durban too late for the 10 day rule. Since the motion had broad support, there was a desire to put the motion up anyway. But the 10-day rule has no exceptions.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:@Amr, that's one of the questions for the SCI too - are there only certain limited circumstances in which a waiver will be permitted? or, as long as a process is created, any rule can be waived? etc.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:I'm for digging deeper.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:i'm fine with digging deeper</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:Dig deeper...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:digging deeper</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:deeper is best. best. best. best</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:LOL!!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC::)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Wolf Knoben:+1</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:i can't make that time... sorry</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:I'm fine with it.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:agree</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong:Thanks everyone!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:thanks a lot.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone and have a great morning, day, evening!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mary Wong::)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Mike O'Connor:it would be good to schedule these meetings in advance...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marie-laure Lemineur -NPOC:Bye bye</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Amr Elsadr:Mikey..., have a great X-mas holiday.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div></p></div></div></body></html>