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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear All,</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please find the MP3 </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>recording of the <span class=apple-style-span>Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on </span><b>Tuesday, 11 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC</b>.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140211-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140211-en.mp3</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'>feb</span></span></u><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attendees:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ronald Andruff – Commercial and Business Users Constituency – Primary – Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency – Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anne Aikman Scalese - Intellectual Property Constituency - Primary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC Alternative<br>Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greg Shatan – IPC - Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Avri Doria – Non Commercial SG – Primary – Vice-Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary – SCI Vice Chair<br>Amr Elsadr – NCUC Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apologies: <br></span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thomas Rickert<b><span style='color:#1F497D'><br></span></b></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN Staff:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Glen de Saint Géry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Let me know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Glen de Saint Géry <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>GNSO Secretariat <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://gnso.icann.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adobe Chat Transcript 11 February 2014<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:Welcome to the SCI meeting of 11 February 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Nice to see you Glen and Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:just dialing in now...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:Hello <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:Hello everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:Jamaica has a bob sled team!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:Actually just noticed that Germany has pushed us to the 4th place now :-((<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:We'll need some more skating medals obviously ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Still some days to go Marika! ;o)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:Thanks so much for the dial out Glen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Glen de Saint Gery:my pleasure, sorry we had the wrong number Cintra!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:it was my mistake, but all good<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Sorry I'm late. Dialling in now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:seems lik we should alwasy worry about making sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:are we really openning this again?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:we only have 1 level of full consensus, and one level of near consensus,. all the others are not consensus at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:and we call near consensus gnso consensus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:i can speak, but my point is tangential<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:@ AVri: please do speak<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Anne Aikman-Scalese:The SCI could consider the following potential actions:• Add a new Consensus Level defining “Consensus Against” to the GNSO WG Guidelines• Without adding a new Consensus Level, clarify that the existing definition/description of “Consensus” includes situations appropriately determined to be “Consensus Against”• In either case, determine if the current “Divergence” level needs to be amended, e.g.:- Does “Divergence” always equate to “No Consensus”?- Does “Divergence” always mean there is a plurality of views?- Does the current definition/description of “Divergence” require clarification or amendment?• Determine that the current Consensus Levels are adequate to cover even the situation experienced by the IGO-INGO PDP WG. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:@ Avri: good clarification of levels<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:From the SCI Charter: On a periodic timescale for all procedures and guidelines in order to identify possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which procedures and guidelines should be reviewed)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:Cintra could you please speak louder or closer to the mic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:please?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:which was preceded by: 'Its tasks include making recommendations'<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Avri + Marika: Yes..., the proposed changes on this excercise should probably address all the levels of consensus/decision-making, not just full consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Is the straw poll a voting member or everyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:@ Amr - if the SCI decides that changes are necessary...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:poll question makes not sense to me. i think it is broader that consensus against, but not as wide as the kettle of fish.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:call it just decsions making level and not consensusus against and i will understand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Not my intent -but how caqn you avoid it if you are looking at them relatively?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:I just changed from and X to a check. Good thing Ron clarified what the X and check would be for. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:*an X<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:but narrow approach as a first step and than open at a later stage ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:open discussion <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:a binary decsion ofn a multi-part decsion is bound to be problematic. 1 just consensus against, 2 negation of any of the decision level, 3 review of the over decsion making procedures in all their glory, 4, review of the wg guidelines<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:3. review of the other decsions making procedures in all their glory<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:i favor 2 or 3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Thanks. Great recommendation to move forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:i do not think i am on the sub team<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:all good thanks for the direction<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Will this be a closed or open meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Wolf Knoben:open<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Wolf. I ask because it wasn't posted on the schedule of the BA meeting. I wasn't sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings:in two weeks, next meeting would be 25 February<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Ah! Thanks. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Anne Aikman-Scalese:THank you everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Marie-laure Lemineur:Thank you Ron and everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan1:thanks have a great day<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cintra Sooknanan1:bye<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>