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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear All,</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please find the MP3 </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>recording of the <span class=apple-style-span>Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on </span><b>Tuesday, 03 June 2014 at 19:00 UTC</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140603-en.mp3"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140603-en.mp3</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#</span></a><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>june</span></u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attendees:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ronald Andruff – Commercial and Business Users Constituency – Primary – Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greg Shatan – IPC <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thomas Rickert - <span style='background:white'>Nominating Committee Appointee</span> <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPs and connectivity providers Constituency (ISPCP) – Primary Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Avri Doria - Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) – Primary Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Cintra Sooknanan (Vice-Chair)<span class=apple-converted-space> - </span>Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency – Primary Member</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anne Aikman Scalese – IPC <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> Primary</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Angie Graves – </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Business Constituency (BC) - Alternate</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Lori Schulman – SOI <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apologies: <br></span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr – </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) – Primary Member</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN Staff:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Let me know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adobe Chat Transcript 03 June 2014<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the SCI call on the 3rd of June 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:Good day all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:just waiting in the queue to come in on the call...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Thomas Rickert 3:Hi all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Lori, do you have a Statement of Interest or an update to one?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> lori schulman:Hi Mary, I don't believe so.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> lori schulman:I am ramping up on everything.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:OK - I'll send you the link/form. We need it, and your SG/C affiliation, per the GNSO WG Guidelines :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> lori schulman:No problem. I will do all that is required.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Thanks so much!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:@ Anne: Is there a reason you would like to see this go to Legal coincidentally with Pub Com?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:As opposed to serially?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Avri, that is what happens<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:just want to know whether we are seeking Legal input on all recommendations from scI as a matter of course<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:It sounds more like a "red flag" process than an "input" process to me....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:On things like rules, procedures, published reports and policy recommendations etc.., that's the practice (not just SCI or GNSO).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@GReg, that's exactly right.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:okay, thanks. dont think Legal should delay recommendations going to gnso<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:No, absolutely.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:If necessary, we staff can be very pesky with our colleagues on behalf of the community :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:I thought Julie had abandoned us!!! :) :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:no need to be pesky If Legal has comments, they should send to GNSO directly and to us at the same time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:@ Anne: I think we agree with the principle you are bringing up, however I see it as a quick 'sanity' check rather than a an ask for approval.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Ron, as indeed it is!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:How about this revision to the end of the new language: "...shall be considered timely submitted for the next GNSO Council meeting.."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Thomas Rickert 2:What about "as soon as practically possible"?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:It would be better to say directly whether or not such a motion can be dealt with via e-mail voting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:I disagree. The question of whether this or any other motion can be dealt with via e-mail voting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:is irrelevan to this rule.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Thomas Rickert 2:.shall be considered timely submitted for the next GNSO Council meeting and dealt with according to the rules applying to GNSO Council meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:It could still be deferred when considered.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:@Avri -- how about my language above?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Re "parking", I thought we said all of these items are going out for public comment at the same time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Language in minutes lookjs good.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:I agree with Greg's analysis .... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i am afraid it will be used to block.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:Avri would you prefer to change the shall to may?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:pabncake? what does that have to do with nything?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:Exactly. It has nothing dto dowht anything....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i accept Thomases langauge. I do not think it is redundnat. and ass i say as written it will be used to block an intermediate vote sooner or later. anyone who has done council knows that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Greg, are you saying amend to say "shall be considered timely submitted for the next meeting"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:Yes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i have been convinced that it is essential to change it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:Thumbs up for Option B.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:change it in what way? shall to may?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:Cintra, that iis not enough. and that might even block what Greg wants.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:are you suggesting an option c?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:I don't think we should preclude e-voting for these motions. I just think it is not relevant here.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:If it is not precluded, that should be more clear as in Option A draft language.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:I think it is relevant, but I think it has been catered for<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:evoting... can only take place with the disucssion taking place on the mailing list etc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:may= can be at the next meeting or otherwise<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> lori schulman:I agree with Avri -- "may" appears to make the vote optional.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:I don't think Option B in any way precludes a request for evoting or a special meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Greg is more of a purist than I am. He is legally quite correct but I think it wont be clear to non-lawyers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:Meh.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:Thank you on behalf of the non-lawyers Anne! ;o)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:@Avri -- it's treyfe! That's why it could not pass your lips.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:sorry have connection problems<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:Greg: (:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:Cintra:Can you add your thoughts via the chat?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Mary, is it always a motion?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thanks Avri.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:For COuncil voting? Yes I believe so - tho I will check re Greg's question about the Chair.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:my issue is with the quorum<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:was there any mention on quorum on an email vote <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:is there automatic quorum?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:I am scanning the text but maybe I am missing it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Check bylaws requirement for quorum per Cintra's comment!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:There is a quorum requirement - think we tried to capture that in Section 5<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:is it that as long as the email credentials are sent out the vote is assumed to be quorate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:SEction 4.1 of the GNSO Op Proc, to be precise.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:sorry for not speaking earlier very noisy here at the moment<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ron A:All good Cintra.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:my reason for declining approval was beacuse i think we need to beef up the quorum section here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:thanks everyone... and to the subteam for their work on this... :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Anne Aikman-Scalese:Thanks everyone!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cintra Sooknanan:bye everyone, thanks Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Thomas Rickert 2:bye all - cu in London! thanks Ron!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Greg Shatan:2:30 am for remote<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> lori schulman:thank you for my first meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>