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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear All,</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please find the MP3 </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>recording of the <span class=apple-style-span>Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on </span><b>Tuesday, 22 July 2014 at 19:00 UTC</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140722-en.mp3"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140722-en.mp3</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jul"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jul</span></a><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attendees:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ronald Andruff – Commercial and Business Users Constituency – Primary – Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greg Shatan – IPC <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thomas Rickert - <span style='background:white'>Nominating Committee Appointee</span> <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> Alternate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPs and connectivity providers Constituency (ISPCP) – Primary Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Avri Doria - Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) – Primary Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Cintra Sooknanan (Vice-Chair)<span class=apple-converted-space> - </span>Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency – Primary Member</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Lori Schulman – </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:white'>Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC Constituency - Alternate</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr – <span style='color:#333333;background:white'>Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) – Primary Member</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apologies: <br></span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jen Wolfe - </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white'>Nominating Committee Appointee</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN Staff:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Glen de Saint Gery<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Let me know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adobe Chat Transcript 22 July 2014<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI meeting on the 22nd July 2014 at 19:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Hello all, I just noted that we will be getting started at 3:04 EDT to all for any late comers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:all = allow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan:3.04 very precise<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:FYI Ron, I didn't get any notifications of absences/apologies; not sure if Julie or Terri or the Secretariat did ...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Hi. Just Dialled in. Apologies about the prolonged absence. Hope you're all well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:Welcome back Amr!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Thnx Mary. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:Hope you (and everyone else on the call, of course) are well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:That IS bad news. :(<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Thnx Ron. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Julie Hedlund:All -- I have unsynced the document that is being displayed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Terri Agnew:Lori Schulman has joined<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:My apologies for the late arrival.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan:I am happy with the text suggested<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Welcome Lori.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: True. Just saying IF the need arises, it will be problematic. The conditions for a resubmitted motion are quite clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:@Amr: I think its a problem that could and should be anticipated by the resubmitters.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Yes..., which is why it should be clarified when submitting the suggested language to the Council.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:Agree it can be noted in the submission.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:@Greg, agreed. And to the extent there is that overlap, the provision does have a safeguard in the need for a unanimous vote to allow it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:I missed the call. :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:The language suggeste exceptional basis to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:*suggests<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:That was my takeaway as well, Ron.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:There have actually been irregularly scheduled council meetings in which votes have taken place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Mary: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:Or how about taking out "for inclusion on the agenda for a regularly scheduled GNSO Council meeting" so that it just reads "submitted in accordance with these Op Procs"?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:You use "regularly scheduled" in Section 2, bullet 3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:That's true<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:I think the context is different in those bullets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:as well as in 1 bullet 3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Then maybe define "regularly scheduled"?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:It might be confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:No intention to wreak havoc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Isn't this beyond the scope of this issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:We're talking about email voting here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:@Avri, that is correct (as to why the phrase is being used here).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:No worries, Ron :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:This language will permit the Council to have a special meeting but not necessarily take a live vote at that special meeting (for some good reason).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:In that, they can do an e-vote after the special meeting but perhaps before the next "regularly scheduled" Council meeting, ie more flexibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:@Greg, that is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:Though I'd advise leaving it in for the first sentence - it doesn't add confusion but reflects the usage elsewhere so prob no harm leaving it in?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. I don't understand why we need to take them out of these three sentances. They seem relevant to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:We're only suggesting taking them out of Section 5. Leaving them in elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:There is static. Can't hear.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Terri Agnew:You are breaking up<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:Amr sounds like he's in a high wind ...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Not here, but I hear it too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Terri Agnew:We are trying to find the line causing noise<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:HIgh wind sound for sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:It stopped.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:And it's back.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:I understand as removing it from second sentence in %.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:5<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:The Wind Cries Mary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Wait, in actions, Mary just typed take out "regularly scheduled" in the 2 instances. I thought we said the second instance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Julie Hedlund:@Lori -- I wrote that because that is what I thought I heard Ron say.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:I had suggested both instances in 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:That is what Ron said....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:I think it makes sense in the first instance but not the second. The second instance is where removal gives the GNSO more flexibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:From a technical perspective, I'm curious how the ability to submit comments along with the ballots would be done.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:I mean leave it in in the first instance. Remove in second.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Yes, Lori. more flexibility is what this particular issue is about.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Then the first instance distinguishes between "outside" and regularly scheduled meetings and should stay in for clarity. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:The second instance is what should be removed for flexiblity. At least, that is how I understand it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Avri Doria:btw, i have never been white water rafting, but after this meeting i realize i need to add it to my list of things to do. i mean i said it twice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:I think I see.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Sorry Julie.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Just trying to keep up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Greg Shatan:I move that we all go white water rafting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong::)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Julie Hedlund:Sounds fun!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Does that mean we are up the creek without a paddle?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong:LOL, Lori!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan:5 August<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Cintra Sooknanan:Thanks, Good bye<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone. Bye.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Thanks all! Enjoy your summer!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Have fun! I will be in the woods...rafting for real in West Virginia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ron A:Enjoy Lori!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Lori Schulman:Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>