<div dir="ltr">This could be a good issue for the GNSO review.  However, I think an amendment to Section 6.2.6 of the GNSO Operating Procedures (which cover SG/C voting issues) would be a more elegant and consistent solution, rather than having each SG/C amend its own charter with its own rules regarding &quot;carpet-baggers,&quot;  The inconsistent results that could arise from that can only be imagined.<div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Thanks Mary for your reply.  I want to add one thing, any such
    consideration more likely belongs in the GNSO Review as that is the
    group looking at how we organize our corner of bottom-up
    multistakeolder activities.  Stakeholder group charters are approved
    by the Board as &#39;negotiated&#39; between the SIC and the SGs. 
    Constituencies are approved in a process defined by the SIC
    complemented by conditions defined in the SG charter.  I do agree
    that there is complexity in dealing with the issue of a large
    corporation with many divisions, subsidiaries, employees, goals and
    business lines having only a vote in only one SG.  Conveniently this
    may be the right time to get such considerations put on the table
    for the GNSO Review.<br>
    <br>
    On a technicality.  we have specific rules about who has standing to
    present cases to the SCI.  <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">For items that are submitted for review &#39;on
      request&#39;, the SCI expects to receive detailed input from the group
      affected by the process/operational change concerned. Either the
      GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council can make
      such requests. </blockquote>
    <br>
    The first line refers, obliquely to the template Anne refered to and
    the staff is working on. Mary, thanks for the update.<br>
    <br>
    The second line refers to the issue of standing to submit such a
    template to the SCI.  We actually had the specific discussion on
    whether SG and C had standing.  As the SCI charter indicates we
    decided that they did not and they needed to bring issues in 
    through the GNSO Council.  I am sure we would all agree that the
    SG/C are not chartered by the GNSO Council.<br>
    <br>
    thanks<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
    avri</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 27-Feb-15 07:05, Mary Wong wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hello Anne and everyone,</div>
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        <div>As an integral part of the bottom up consensus model,
          issues of voting and membership in each Stakeholder Group and
          Constituency are determined by their respective charters. Each
          SG or C develops and approves its own charter (as appropriate)
          and the Bylaws merely provide that the Board can review a
          group’s charter periodically. It therefore follows that the
          GNSO Operating Procedures do not provide for the review,
          amendment or approval of an SG’s or C’s charter by a body
          other than that particular SG/C. The GNSO Operating Procedures
          do, however, prescribe certain common standards to be followed
          by each SG and C in its charter and operations, such as
          transparency, accountability, inclusiveness and
          representation. Accordingly, the Operating Procedures also
          specify that a group member’s voting rights must be spelled
          out clearly in the group’s charter, and that a legal or
          natural person may not be a voting member of more than one
          group. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>In line with the above-noted principles, the issue that
          Martin raises would seem to be something that the SGs and Cs
          will need to work out for and amongst themselves. As such, we
          suggest that the BC leadership consider initiating a
          discussion with other SG/C leaders on this point, to see if
          this is a matter that warrants either a revision of or
          addition to each group’s charter. In addition, the BC itself
          may internally wish to propose such an update to its own
          charter, which it is of course at liberty to do as part of its
          ongoing self-governance (regardless of whether other SG/Cs
          wish to revise their own charters in the same way).</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>As to your second question, staff has begun working on the
          action items noted in Singapore,, as we offered to do, and we
          will shortly be providing Avri with the basic template that
          she can use to present the topic to the GNSO Council for its
          consideration. At the moment, I do not know if it will be on
          the Council’s agenda for its March meeting, as that will
          depend on the Council chairs’ determination as to urgency and
          deadlines of other projects and topics. I expect that if it
          does not make it on to the agenda for the March meeting, it
          will likely be on the list for inclusion at the next one.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>I hope this helps!</div>
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        <div>Cheers</div>
        <div>Mary</div>
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            <div>Mary Wong</div>
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        <div><span>From: </span> &lt;Aikman-Scalese&gt;, Anne &lt;<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
          <span>Date: </span> Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 15:42<br>
          <span>To: </span> &quot;&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>&gt;&quot;
          &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span>Cc: </span> Mary Wong &lt;<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>&gt;,
          Julie Hedlund &lt;<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>&gt;,
          &#39;Avri Doria&#39; &lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span>Subject: </span> FW: Request to the SCI - Vote
          switching<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear SCI members,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Below is a written request to
                    SCI from a member of the Business Constituency
                    Charter Review Team.  I am wondering whether this
                    request must come officially from the BC in order to
                    be considered by SCI.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Separately, in the Singapore
                    meeting, after delivery of the SCI report, Avri
                    volunteered to draft a template for GNSO requests to
                    SCI and to prepare drafts for Council of the two
                    “immediate issue” requests mentioned in the SCI
                    report, that is (1) friendly amendments to motions
                    and (2) whether or not resubmitted motions are
                    eligible for waiver of the ten day advance notice
                    for motions.  I understand that Avri will be
                    reviewing draft language for these requests with the
                    Council.   It may make sense for us to see a draft
                    and provide some comments, but that is up to Avri.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>So the questions for staff
                    are:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p><span><span>1.<span>      
                      </span></span></span><span>Do I need to tell
                    Martin Sutton (see note below) that the request must
                    be submitted by the BC itself?</span></p>
                <p><span><span>2.<span>      
                      </span></span></span><span>Where do the “friendly
                    amendment” and “applicability of 10 day waiver to
                    resubmitted motions” action items from the GNSO
                    Council meeting in Singapore stand at this time?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Anne</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank">martinsutton@hsbc.com</a>
                    [<a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank">mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com</a>]
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:30 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Anne,</span><br>
                  <br>
                  <span>I am a member of the Business Constituency and
                    currently working with the BC Charter Review team.
                     During our recent discussions, we identified a
                    potential issue that may affect GNSO Stakeholder
                    Groups (SGs) and Constituencies (Cs) which may
                    warrant the attention of the SCI, which I understand
                    you currently chair.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  <span>With the introduction of New gTLDs, an
                    increasing number of organisations now meet the
                    criteria of membership within multiple groups, even
                    across the contracting and non-contracting parties
                    divide.  The point in question is in relation to the
                    ability for a member of multiple SGs and Cs to
                    regularly switch their voting rights between these
                    groups in a tactical manner, so as to apply votes
                    for elections/decisions where they may have concerns
                    with lack of representation within a specific group,
                    at a specific time. Whilst they may only vote in one
                    of the SGs or Cs, there is no restriction as to when
                    and how frequently they may switch their voting
                    power between these groups.  This could be too
                    flexible and potentially allow the system to be
                    exploited.</span> <br>
                  <br>
                  <span>I am pleased to say that there is no evidence
                    that this is occurring but as new members continue
                    to increase, it seems sensible to consider
                    preventative measures be put in place to protect the
                    GNSO for the future.  As an example, a multi-member
                    organisation could be obliged to commit  holding
                    it&#39;s voting rights within one group for a minimum
                    term of 12 months before switching to another group.
                     Of course, this would need to be uniform across all
                    of the SGs and Cs, hence, we think it is appropriate
                    to raise this issue with the SCI for consideration.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  <span>I would be happy to discuss further and
                    interested to know if you feel this would be
                    appropriate and worthwhile for the SCI to assess.</span><br>
                  <br>
                  <span>Kind regards,<br>
                  </span><br>
                  <span>Martin</span> <br>
                  <b><span>Martin C SUTTON
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              covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18
              U.S.C. §2510-2521.
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