<div dir="ltr">This could be a good issue for the GNSO review. However, I think an amendment to Section 6.2.6 of the GNSO Operating Procedures (which cover SG/C voting issues) would be a more elegant and consistent solution, rather than having each SG/C amend its own charter with its own rules regarding "carpet-baggers," The inconsistent results that could arise from that can only be imagined.<div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Thanks Mary for your reply. I want to add one thing, any such
consideration more likely belongs in the GNSO Review as that is the
group looking at how we organize our corner of bottom-up
multistakeolder activities. Stakeholder group charters are approved
by the Board as 'negotiated' between the SIC and the SGs.
Constituencies are approved in a process defined by the SIC
complemented by conditions defined in the SG charter. I do agree
that there is complexity in dealing with the issue of a large
corporation with many divisions, subsidiaries, employees, goals and
business lines having only a vote in only one SG. Conveniently this
may be the right time to get such considerations put on the table
for the GNSO Review.<br>
<br>
On a technicality. we have specific rules about who has standing to
present cases to the SCI. <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">For items that are submitted for review 'on
request', the SCI expects to receive detailed input from the group
affected by the process/operational change concerned. Either the
GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council can make
such requests. </blockquote>
<br>
The first line refers, obliquely to the template Anne refered to and
the staff is working on. Mary, thanks for the update.<br>
<br>
The second line refers to the issue of standing to submit such a
template to the SCI. We actually had the specific discussion on
whether SG and C had standing. As the SCI charter indicates we
decided that they did not and they needed to bring issues in
through the GNSO Council. I am sure we would all agree that the
SG/C are not chartered by the GNSO Council.<br>
<br>
thanks<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
avri</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 27-Feb-15 07:05, Mary Wong wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello Anne and everyone,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As an integral part of the bottom up consensus model,
issues of voting and membership in each Stakeholder Group and
Constituency are determined by their respective charters. Each
SG or C develops and approves its own charter (as appropriate)
and the Bylaws merely provide that the Board can review a
group’s charter periodically. It therefore follows that the
GNSO Operating Procedures do not provide for the review,
amendment or approval of an SG’s or C’s charter by a body
other than that particular SG/C. The GNSO Operating Procedures
do, however, prescribe certain common standards to be followed
by each SG and C in its charter and operations, such as
transparency, accountability, inclusiveness and
representation. Accordingly, the Operating Procedures also
specify that a group member’s voting rights must be spelled
out clearly in the group’s charter, and that a legal or
natural person may not be a voting member of more than one
group. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In line with the above-noted principles, the issue that
Martin raises would seem to be something that the SGs and Cs
will need to work out for and amongst themselves. As such, we
suggest that the BC leadership consider initiating a
discussion with other SG/C leaders on this point, to see if
this is a matter that warrants either a revision of or
addition to each group’s charter. In addition, the BC itself
may internally wish to propose such an update to its own
charter, which it is of course at liberty to do as part of its
ongoing self-governance (regardless of whether other SG/Cs
wish to revise their own charters in the same way).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As to your second question, staff has begun working on the
action items noted in Singapore,, as we offered to do, and we
will shortly be providing Avri with the basic template that
she can use to present the topic to the GNSO Council for its
consideration. At the moment, I do not know if it will be on
the Council’s agenda for its March meeting, as that will
depend on the Council chairs’ determination as to urgency and
deadlines of other projects and topics. I expect that if it
does not make it on to the agenda for the March meeting, it
will likely be on the list for inclusion at the next one.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I hope this helps!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Mary</div>
<div>
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<div>Mary Wong</div>
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<div><span>From: </span> <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>><br>
<span>Date: </span> Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 15:42<br>
<span>To: </span> "<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br>
<span>Cc: </span> Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>,
Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>,
'Avri Doria' <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>><br>
<span>Subject: </span> FW: Request to the SCI - Vote
switching<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear SCI members,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Below is a written request to
SCI from a member of the Business Constituency
Charter Review Team. I am wondering whether this
request must come officially from the BC in order to
be considered by SCI. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Separately, in the Singapore
meeting, after delivery of the SCI report, Avri
volunteered to draft a template for GNSO requests to
SCI and to prepare drafts for Council of the two
“immediate issue” requests mentioned in the SCI
report, that is (1) friendly amendments to motions
and (2) whether or not resubmitted motions are
eligible for waiver of the ten day advance notice
for motions. I understand that Avri will be
reviewing draft language for these requests with the
Council. It may make sense for us to see a draft
and provide some comments, but that is up to Avri.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So the questions for staff
are:</span></p>
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<p><span><span>1.<span>
</span></span></span><span>Do I need to tell
Martin Sutton (see note below) that the request must
be submitted by the BC itself?</span></p>
<p><span><span>2.<span>
</span></span></span><span>Where do the “friendly
amendment” and “applicability of 10 day waiver to
resubmitted motions” action items from the GNSO
Council meeting in Singapore stand at this time?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Anne</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank">martinsutton@hsbc.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank">mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Anne,</span><br>
<br>
<span>I am a member of the Business Constituency and
currently working with the BC Charter Review team.
During our recent discussions, we identified a
potential issue that may affect GNSO Stakeholder
Groups (SGs) and Constituencies (Cs) which may
warrant the attention of the SCI, which I understand
you currently chair.</span><br>
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<span>With the introduction of New gTLDs, an
increasing number of organisations now meet the
criteria of membership within multiple groups, even
across the contracting and non-contracting parties
divide. The point in question is in relation to the
ability for a member of multiple SGs and Cs to
regularly switch their voting rights between these
groups in a tactical manner, so as to apply votes
for elections/decisions where they may have concerns
with lack of representation within a specific group,
at a specific time. Whilst they may only vote in one
of the SGs or Cs, there is no restriction as to when
and how frequently they may switch their voting
power between these groups. This could be too
flexible and potentially allow the system to be
exploited.</span> <br>
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<span>I am pleased to say that there is no evidence
that this is occurring but as new members continue
to increase, it seems sensible to consider
preventative measures be put in place to protect the
GNSO for the future. As an example, a multi-member
organisation could be obliged to commit holding
it's voting rights within one group for a minimum
term of 12 months before switching to another group.
Of course, this would need to be uniform across all
of the SGs and Cs, hence, we think it is appropriate
to raise this issue with the SCI for consideration.</span><br>
<br>
<span>I would be happy to discuss further and
interested to know if you feel this would be
appropriate and worthwhile for the SCI to assess.</span><br>
<br>
<span>Kind regards,<br>
</span><br>
<span>Martin</span> <br>
<b><span>Martin C SUTTON
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