<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div>Thanks to Ron and everyone for their insights. It sounds like there is general agreement that this is at the moment an internal BC issue, with the possibility of its going to the GNSO Council at some appropriate time for discussion and possible coordination of a consistent position or rule. As noted in previous discussions, </div><div><br></div><div>At this point, staff respectfully suggests that the best approach may be for Ron and Angie, as the BC representatives to the SCI, to write or speak directly to Martin. Besides the preliminary nature of the question and the possible options as suggested, we thought that it made sense that the response not be an official one from the SCI through the Chair, since the query was a somewhat informal one from a group from within the BC and not an official BC request.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Mary</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Mary Wong</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Senior Policy Director</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Telephone: +1 603 574 4892</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Email: mary.wong@icann.org</font></font></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div><br></div><br></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 15:32<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:RA@onrconsulting.com">RA@onrconsulting.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>, Angie Graves <<a href="mailto:angie@webgroup.com">angie@webgroup.com</a>>, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Ron, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">That is very helpful background. I agree that the BC needs to progress this more before bringing it to the Council (if at all). If this is an issue that the BC wants to bring out of the BC,
there are a variety of options to do so. I think that the email letter was intended to capture those options.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">One option is certainly to complete a draft revised Charter and let that start the conversation about regulating vote-switching and related issues.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Another option is to open a cross SG/C dialogue among the respective leadership groups about this.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Another option is to bring it to the Council.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Each of these options probably leads to the others, and potentially to the SCI, if revising the appropriate sections of the GNSO Operating Procedures is seen as a potential appropriate home for
safeguards against vote-switching.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">At this point, the simplest thing may be for Martin to reach out to SG/C leaderships to see if and how they have dealt with this issue, and if they are currently thinking about it. Wolf-Ulrich's
response was quite instructive. Anything more than that is probably premature.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Ron Andruff <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:RA@onrconsulting.com" target="_blank">RA@onrconsulting.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As I was (until recently) on the BC Charter team and formerly with the SCI, and this topic is getting a lot of consideration by all of you, I thought it might help
if I provided some further context. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Regarding the BC Charter, all Constituencies must update their Charters to remain current with an evolving ICANN; however, only a few (to my knowledge) have done
so, at this point in time. The BC took the approach of trying to develop a Charter that would include as many best practices as possible. We are particularly keen in identifying how to draw clear lines between constituencies and their respective interests,
with members in each constituency clearly coming from the specific business unit of a company that may have memberships in several constituencies, as one example.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We had not gotten to this stage when I stepped down as co-Chair of the BC Charter drafting team, but I believe that Martin was given a green light by the rest of
that sub-committee to ask the question of the SCI.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In my view, this is a matter for the BC to sort out; first at the sub-committee level, then at the full membership level, and then the draft Charter will be sent
out for public comment (as all new Charters are obliged). So there are many opportunities for much discussion at many levels BEFORE it would ever become an SCI issue, as I see it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">At the end of the day, while this does impact the GNSO Council at a certain level, it must be considered and more or less resolved at the constituency level. Taking
this to Council is putting the cart before the horse…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My two cents… Hope this sheds more light on the matter.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">RA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">: DELETE
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<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:36<br><b>To:</b> Angie Graves; Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br><b>Cc:</b> Mary Wong; <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>; Ron Andruff<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I do agree that the council might be the right entity to following-up . Although I think in doing this the council has to refer again to the SGs/Cs to bring their respective rules
(if there are any) into a coordinated form.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">FYI here is an excerpt of the ISPCP constituency Operating Procedures:
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><<...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Applicants will be asked to declare whether the entity is a member of another GNSO constituency or will participate in ICANN policy formulation in ways other than their ISPCP membership.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Applicants representing entities which do participate elsewhere are required to demonstrate that their ISPCP membership will be divisionally oriented meaning that separate individuals will represent those
divisions in ICANN affairs, and that the entity will only represent ISP and Connectivity Providers perspectives within the ISPCP.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:0in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">In the interest of transparency, members are required to provide information to the secretariat whenever there are any material changes to their status or that of their organisation.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">...>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">This looks more or less like a code of conduct with criteria to be talked about on a case by case.
<br><br>
Best regards<br><br>
Wolf-Ulrich<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="mailto:angie@webgroup.com" title="angie@webgroup.com" target="_blank">Angie Graves</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"> Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:13 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" title="AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">Aikman-Scalese, Anne</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">Cc:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" title="mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">
Mary Wong</a> ; <a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" title="gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">
mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a> ; <a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" title="randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">
Ron Andruff</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"> Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request
to the SCI - Vote switching<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear all,
<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">If 6.1.2(j) is mentioned in the response to Martin, the mention should be in the context of acknowledgement that 6.1.2(j) is the source of the loophole that Martin discovered.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Also, as refresher, here is an excerpt from Martin's email to the SCI:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"The point in question is in relation to the ability for a member of multiple SGs and Cs to regularly switch their voting rights between these groups in a tactical manner, so as
to apply votes for elections/decisions where they may have concerns with lack of representation within a specific group, at a specific time. Whilst they may only vote in one of the SGs or Cs, there is no restriction as to when and how frequently they may switch
their voting power between these groups. This could be too flexible and potentially allow the system to be exploited."<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Regarding raising this to the GNSO Council, mention of 6.1.2(j) by the SCI should be accompanied by mention of 6.2.6(d), as they are composed of identical language: "No legal or
natural person should be a voting member of more than one Group."<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Angie<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Mary,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Our response to Martin should definitely include a reference to GNSO Operating Procedure 6.1.2(j) and Martin can take this up with the BC. We should not omit
a relevant GNSO Operating Procedure when responding to this question.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thank you,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Anne</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td width="67" rowspan="7" valign="top" style="width:.7in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><img border="0" width="150" height="62" src="cid:image001.gif@01D060A3.43FCC880"></span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td width="355" valign="top" style="width:3.7in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width="355" valign="top" style="width:3.7in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 16, 2015 4:26 PM<br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>; Ron Andruff</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks for the detailed feedback, Greg. I will amend the note to reflect your suggestions, including to take up the matter with the Council directly rather than
with individual SG/Cs. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On the question of whether the BC’s question raises the broader question of the effectiveness of Section 6.1.2(j), this may be something the SCI can include in
its review plan should the Council choose not to refer the topic to the SCI at this time. As such, while we may not include it in the note to the BC, the SCI can certainly add it to its list of potential topics for further/future review at the appropriate
time. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Mary Wong</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Senior Policy Director</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Telephone:
<a href="tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204892" target="_blank">+1 603 574 4892</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Email:
<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, March 16, 2015 at 17:07<br><b>To: </b>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am not entirely in agreement with the note or its underlying premises.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I do agree that this is not an SCI issue in the sense that we cannot generate our own issues, and that our issues can only come from the Council or from a "group
chartered by the Council." The Business Constituency is neither, since it is chartered by ICANN.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">However,I believe this is an issue relating to the effectiveness and functioning of the GNSO Operating Procedures, and specifically, Section 6.1.2(j), which states
that"No legal or natural person should be a voting member of more than one Group." The BC is questioning whether this Section of the GNSO Operating Procedures is effective as currently drafted, given the increasing number of stakeholders eligible to join
multiple SGs. The GNSO Operating Procedures are maintained by the GNSO Council. Therefore, this seems to me to be an issue that is within the remit of the Council and which the Council could the refer to the SCI after appropriate deliberations. I think
it goes too far to say that this is outside the Council's purview because each SG/C is responsible for its own charter. As you acknowledge later on in the note, the Charters are subject to a number of principles in the GNSO Operating Procedures. To the extent
that this relates to one of those principles (and it does) this is appropriate for the Council to take up.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Furthermore, the Council, which meets regularly, would seem to be a better forum for shepherding this issue, as opposed to the leaderships of the SG/C's, which
do not meet regularly. If the leaderships did meet and decide that a common rule for all GNSO SG/C needed to be adopted to guard against vote-switching, the natural method for creating and adopting such a rule would be for the GNSO Council (and by extension,
the SCI) to amend GNSO Operating Procedures Section 6.1.2(j). Sending this issue through the SG/C leaderships would just delay consideration.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">It seems to me that, at the very least, we should include in this letter (or email) as one of the suggestions that the BC bring this up before the Council. We
should also not simply say we are unable to take up the issue. We should say that we are unable to take up the issue unless it is referred to us by the Council.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am also not particularly enthusiastic about suggesting that the BC consult with other SG/C's on a piecemeal basis. This is the kind of problem that cries out
for a GNSO-wide solution, so that there are consistent rules and results, and we don't have certain SG/C's that are friendly to "vote-switchers" and others that are not. In any event, I don't think this should be premised in any way on whether other SG/C's
are undergoing a charter review. This issue is timely because this is an increasingly realistic problem, not because an SG/C is revising its charter.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Overall, I just think this should be more neutral in terms of the options, and include the Council (and a review of 6.1.2(j)) as one of those options. If the BC
chooses to consult with leaderships, that should be fine. If the BC chooses to take that route, that should be fine, too.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Greg</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Hello everyone,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Since we have received no objections from anyone, and both Amr and Angie agreed that the SCI should proceed with a reply to Martin Sutton as sketched out by Angie
and me, we have drafted the following email that Anne as SCI chair can send if it meets the purpose. Since we thought it would make sense to keep the note brief, we thought that sending it in the form of an email rather than as a separate letter would work
too.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On Amr’s question about SG/C charter revisions, our understanding is that each SG/C – in the current GNSO structure – is obliged to include procedures for amending
their charters therein. However, under the previous structure, and more specifically in the transitional period to the current structure with four new SGs largely supplanting the old Constituency structure, each SG Charter had to be submitted to and approved
by the ICANN Board. This took place between July 2009 and June 2011. Similarly, each existing Constituency had to be renewed and reconfirmed by the Board – this took place in early 2009.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Our suggested draft text for a reply to Martin follows below.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear Martin,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thank you for reaching out to me and the GNSO’s Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation (SCI) on 26 February 2015. The SCI has discussed the question
that the Business Constituency (BC) raised concerning the possibility of vote-switching across different GNSO groups, and while we agree that this situation is not currently addressed by the GNSO’s rules or procedures, we have also concluded that this specific
issue lies outside the remit of the SCI. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">The SCI was chartered by the GNSO Council to review and assess the effectiveness and functioning of the GNSO Operating Procedures and Working Group Guidelines.
As such, questions relating to Stakeholder Group/Constituency (SG/C) operations are beyond the scope of our charter, for the simple reason that the ICANN’s bottom-up community structure is based on each SG/C defining its own governance rules. The drafting,
scoping, adoption, review and amendment of each group’s charter is therefore a matter for that group’s internal deliberations and decision, with a light oversight exercised by the ICANN Board which (under the current Bylaws) retains the discretion to prescribe
periodic reviews of each group’s charter (see Article X, Section 5.3 of the ICANN Bylaws).</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Although the SCI is unable to take up consideration of the issue raised by the BC, we recognize the potential problem that this could cause were it to happen and
would therefore like to offer a few options for your and the BC’s consideration. As the question arose during the BC's discussion of a revision of its Charter, it may be helpful for the BC - as part of its internal deliberations and process - to determine
whether to seek external input and also how suggestions for mitigation received can assist in its decision as to the best way to proceed. For instance, BC leadership could reach out to other SG/C leaders to see if a common GNSO position can be developed around
the issue. While we do not ourselves know if other SG/Cs are going to be reviewing their charters at this time, we note that each SG/C charter is supposed to specify the process for charter amendment. It may therefore turn out to be timely for the BC to raise
this issue within the broader GNSO community.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">In this regard, it may be helpful to note that the GNSO Operating Procedures prescribe that SG/C rules be based on common general principles that ensure representativeness,
openness, transparency and accountability. Specifically, while groups are not required to maintain identical rules, their participation principles should be objective, standardized and clear (see Section 6.1.1 and generally Section 6 of the GNSO Operating
Procedures). In line therefore with the concept of community–based bottom–up governance, if a substantial part of the GNSO community were to agree on a need to solve the potential voting problem, this could result in the development of a GNSO norm or principle
that could, if appropriate, be added to the GNSO Operating Procedures.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Additionally, given the ongoing structural review of the GNSO, the BC may also wish to consider bringing up the issue with the GNSO Working Party that is coordinating
this effort on the community’s behalf, perhaps through the BC representatives on the group. We understand also that the initial report of the independent examiner will be published for public comment in mid-2015, so there will be additional opportunities for
public comments that can include suggestions for further structural improvements to the GNSO as well.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I hope that these suggestions from the SCI will be useful to the BC. Should you or the BC have any additional questions concerning the functioning of the GNSO Operating
Procedures and Working Group Guidelines, please do not hesitate to contact me. The SCI will be pleased to support the community’s efforts to better understand and improve these rules and processes.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">With best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Anne Aikman-Scalese</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">2015 Chair, SCI
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org" target="_blank">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 06:43<br><b>To: </b>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Hi,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I haven’t commented on this thread, mainly because I thought the discussion was headed in an agreeable direction.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I think Martin has raised an interesting point, and hope this issue doesn’t become a problem in the near or distant future. However, as noted by others, I don’t
see this as an SCI issue. Since this isn’t a policy issue, I honestly don’t see this as something necessarily being within the scope of the GNSO Council either. Having said that, I don’t think it would be harmful for the council to discuss the issue. Ideally,
this would have been picked up during the GNSO review, but should be individually tackled by the GNSO’s SGs/Cs.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Isn’t the Board SIC involved in the process of SG/C charter revisions as well? I tried searching for a process description, but couldn’t find one. May be helpful
to reference that in any response we send Martin, if that is indeed the case. I seem to remember them being involved in the NCSG charter revision.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Amr</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear Angie and everyone,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks very much for the thoughtful comments – I think we are both saying very similar things! Essentially, the BC (like all other GNSO SG/Cs) defines its own charter
and scope, which is one reason why (as well as more general reasons having to do with the fundamental community consensus-based bottom-up ICANN structure) staff suggested that this is an issue best determined by the BC itself. This can include all the considerations
mentioned by Angie, and the BC may also decide it wishes to discuss the question with other GNSO SG/Cs. As we also noted, to the extent that a substantial or discrete part the GNSO community then believes a more uniform or coherent approach is needed, either
the BC or another GNSO SG/C can bring it up as part of the ongoing GNSO Review - a point that was noted by Avri as something that can be done through each SG/C’s representatives on the GNSO Working Party, including the BC's.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Anne has requested that staff draft a response to Martin and the BC, which we propose to do along these lines. Although we do not think this is necessarily the
type of matter that the SCI Charter was intended to cover, nonetheless it may be helpful to see if this is a shared SCI view. Please reply therefore if you have an objection to the proposed approach. If none is received by
<b>23:59 UTC on Wednesday 11 March</b>, we will proceed as noted herein.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Mary Wong</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Senior Policy Director</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Telephone:
<a href="tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204892" target="_blank">+1 603 574 4892</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Email:
<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Angie Graves <<a href="mailto:angie@webgroup.com" target="_blank">angie@webgroup.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:52<br><b>To: </b>Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Fwd: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear Anne, Mary and SCI,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am writing to share my thoughts with the SCI as a member of both the BC and the SCI. If any of my thoughts expressed below conflict with Mary Wong's pending
response, I defer to her.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am inclined to think that I am speaking for more than just myself when I say that the SCI recognizes, too, the importance of this issue Martin has raised, and
that we would like to be able to provide answers and resolution to the potential for abuse of voting rights.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Unfortunately, the SCI's charter directs us to consider GNSO Council processes and procedures and Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the
GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council as needing discussion (e.g. a WG). As the Business Constituency is one of the Constituencies within the Commercial Stakeholder Group (CSG) referred to in Article X.5 of the ICANN bylaws, and as the BC's
charter review is not at the request of the GNSO Council, Martin's request lies outside of the SCI's scope.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am available to talk about this issue with Martin and/or with the BC Charter Review Drafting Team, and maybe determine together the optimal way forward. My suggestion
is for the SCI to recommend that Martin raise this issue first inside the BC following the Drafting Team's completion of its first order of business--the charter review. In seeking BC consensus on the issue, requests for outside review will be thoroughly
considered by the constituency, ideas for mitigation will be collected, and the best path forward with the issue will be determined and agreed upon by the BC membership.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thoughts?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thank you,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Angie</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <<a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank">martinsutton@hsbc.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:26 AM<br>
Subject: RE: Request to the SCI - Vote switching<br>
To: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>><br>
Cc: Angie Graves <<a href="mailto:angie@webgroup.com" target="_blank">angie@webgroup.com</a>>, "<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>,
Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, Ron Andruff <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear Anne,</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Thank you for your helpful response and suggestion - all noted.<br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Kind regards,<br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Martin</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">Martin C SUTTON
</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Manager, Group Fraud Risk & Intelligence
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Global Security & Fraud Risk<br>
Level 8,1 Canada Square,Canary Wharf,London,E14 5AB,United Kingdom</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">__________________________________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><table border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%"><tbody><tr><td width="25%" style="width:25.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"></td><td width="75%" style="width:75.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);">Phone</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);"><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29207%20991%208074" target="_blank">+44 (0)207 991 8074</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);">Mobile</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);"><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29777%204556680" target="_blank">+44 (0)777 4556680</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);">Email</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">martinsutton@hsbc.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(79, 79, 79);">Website</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.hsbc.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">www.hsbc.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;">__________________________________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: green;">Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to!</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br><br><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">From:
</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrlaw.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrlaw.com</a>></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">To:
</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Martin C SUTTON/HGHQ/HSBC@HSBC</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">Cc:
</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">'Mary Wong' <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>,
"<<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org</a>>, 'Ron Andruff' <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>>,
'Angie Graves' <<a href="mailto:angie@webgroup.com" target="_blank">angie@webgroup.com</a>></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">Date:
</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">07/03/2015 22:20</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">Subject:
</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">RE: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#a0a0a0" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);">Martin,</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);">Although SCI has not met, there has been some discussion on the list regarding your request on behalf of the BC Charter subteam.
</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);">Staff (Mary Wong) is drafting a response to your request for SCI and will be circulating that response to SCI members for purposes of developing a consensus on the recommended
approach for BC in this fact situation. At present we have no calls scheduled. If SCI members are not in agreement with the approach described in the draft response that staff is preparing, we will likely need to schedule a call to discuss in more detail
than achieved to date on the list. In this regard, you may want to alert and brief the BC members of SCI as to this particular issue since, to my knowledge, neither one of the BC SCI appointees has commented in the discussion of this matter on the SCI list.</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);">Thank you,</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);">Anne</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="7" valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><ATT00001.gif> <u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP |</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">One South Church Avenue Suite 700 | Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">(T)
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Sent:</b> Friday, March 06, 2015 9:17 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear Anne,</span><span style="color:black"> <br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"><br>
As a follow-up, could you please let me know when the SCI is next due to meet/discuss the item raised below? I just want to manage expectations with the BC Charter group, so an indicative time would be helpful.
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Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"><br>
Martin</span><span style="color:black"> </span><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;"><br>
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To: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">"Anne Aikman-Scalese" <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:AAikman@LRRLaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">AAikman@LRRLaw.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
Date: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">26/02/2015 23:21</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
Subject: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Re: Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#a0a0a0" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span><span style="color:black"><br><br><br>
Thank you Anne, much appreciated. <br><br>
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Sent: </b>26/02/2015 20:31 GMT<b><br>
To: </b>Martin C SUTTON<b><br>
Subject: </b>RE: Request to the SCI - Vote switching<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);"><br>
Thanks Martin. I will bring this before SCI.<br>
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Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:30 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<b><br>
Subject:</b> Request to the SCI - Vote switching</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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Dear Anne,</span><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"><br><br>
I am a member of the Business Constituency and currently working with the BC Charter Review team. During our recent discussions, we identified a potential issue that may affect GNSO Stakeholder Groups (SGs) and Constituencies (Cs) which may warrant the attention
of the SCI, which I understand you currently chair.<br><br>
With the introduction of New gTLDs, an increasing number of organisations now meet the criteria of membership within multiple groups, even across the contracting and non-contracting parties divide. The point in question is in relation to the ability for a
member of multiple SGs and Cs to regularly switch their voting rights between these groups in a tactical manner, so as to apply votes for elections/decisions where they may have concerns with lack of representation within a specific group, at a specific time.
Whilst they may only vote in one of the SGs or Cs, there is no restriction as to when and how frequently they may switch their voting power between these groups. This could be too flexible and potentially allow the system to be exploited.<br><br>
I am pleased to say that there is no evidence that this is occurring but as new members continue to increase, it seems sensible to consider preventative measures be put in place to protect the GNSO for the future. As an example, a multi-member organisation
could be obliged to commit holding it's voting rights within one group for a minimum term of 12 months before switching to another group. Of course, this would need to be uniform across all of the SGs and Cs, hence, we think it is appropriate to raise this
issue with the SCI for consideration.<br><br>
I would be happy to discuss further and interested to know if you feel this would be appropriate and worthwhile for the SCI to assess.<br><br>
Kind regards,<br><br>
Martin</span><span style="color:black"> </span><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red;"><br>
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