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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Dear All,<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px; ">The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 07 September 2013 at 1500 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoPlainText" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><span lang="EN-US">Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 30</span><span lang="EN-US"> September 2013 at 15:00 UTC at:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20130930-en.mp3" style="font-size: 15px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20130930-en.mp3</a></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><span lang="EN-US">On page: </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</a>sep</font></u><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><font color="#0000ff">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</font></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u>Attendees:</u> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Volker Greimann – RrSG<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">James Bladel - RrSG</span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Kristine Dorrain – NAF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Angie Graves – CBUC <br>Chris Chaplow – CBUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px; ">Bartlett Morgan – NCUC<br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><font style="font-size: 15px;">Barbara Knight – RySG</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Graeme Bunton - RrSG</span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Avri Doria – NCSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><u><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Bob Mountain - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Paul Diaz - RySG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u>ICANN staff:</u><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Julia Charvolen</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: medium; 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"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div style="font-size: medium; font-family: Calibri; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Julia Charvolen</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "><b>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 30 September 2013:</b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 12pt; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><div style="font-size: medium; "> Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP Working Group on Monday 30 September 2013</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Thanks for the Zoom control. :)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Avri DOria and Chris Chaplow joined the meeting</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:I am now in the meeting#</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Chris Chaplow:It is a good issue description</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Mine too.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Are we asking for Compliance Action, or are we establishing TDRP eligibility?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:(call dropped, rejoining)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:James is back on the call</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Wow...now I know how to fence stolen goods in Germany!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:Wow..yeah, sell all stolen art in Germany. :)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Chris Chaplow:Isnt SEDO a german company?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Lol.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:the TDRP has a six month expiration....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:auction become domain name laundering?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:titles never hurt the auto secnd hand market, but they do create a new bureaucracy.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:Mikey, you're thinking of reverse domain name hijacking??</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:I just think that we need to make sure this policy cannot be abused</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:I was thinking along the same lines, but Volker said it better.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:We aren't evil enough to put ourselves in the mindset of a hijacker. :)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:BUt it's not free for them to do so...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Is "you can alwsays go to court" a good temrinal postion for us to count on in Policy?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:would we not be better advised to tell the registrant to rely on the courts</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:@Avri: I think so.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Otherwise there is no floor....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Should our policies be complete. and yes there is court. but for us to assume it is the exit point, is a moveable line.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:I am just saying that arbitration may be good for certain issues, other issues should be relegated to the respective courts</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:I agree volker</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:especially where there is potential for abuse</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:"just because you can, does not mean you should"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:I'm thinking this way....very low value domain, if the registrar can't fix the wrong, maybe the losing registrant says "that sucks", medium value, maybe they pay to try a TDRP or something, high value, maybe you skip the TDRP and go right to court... Not every avenue is right for every domain name.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:and I use the word "value" loosely....it's all relative</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:also court will get more complicated when we get to multiple jurisdictions - the scaling point we haven't thought of too much.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:also in the reverse highjacking we are talking a big-guy highjacker , little guy registrant - court is even less of a slution based on cost than TDRP.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Graeme Bunton:thanks mikey</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bartlett Morgan:thanks</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Thanks</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>