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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Dear All,</span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 15px;"><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;">The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 14 October 2013 at 1500 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><span lang="EN-US">Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 07 October </span><span lang="EN-US">2013 at 15:00 UTC at:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131007-en.mp3" style="font-size: 15px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131007-en.mp3</a></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><span lang="EN-US">On page: </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</a>oct</font></u><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><font color="#0000ff">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</font></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u>Attendees:</u> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Volker Greimann – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">James Bladel - RrSG</span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Kristine Dorrain – NAF</span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Chris Chaplow – CBUC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Graeme Bunton - RrSG</span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Avri Doria – NCSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Bob Mountain - RrSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><u style="font-size: 15px;">Apologies:</u></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Paul Diaz – RySG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Bartlett Morgan – NCUC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Barbara Knight – RySG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Kevin Erdman - IPC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Rob Golding - RrSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><u>ICANN staff:</u><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Julia Charvolen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Mailing list archives:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/"><font color="#0000ff">http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/</font></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg"><font color="#0000ff">https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg</font></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px;">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;">Julia Charvolen</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px;"><b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 07 October 2013:</u></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 15px; "><div style="font-size: medium; "> Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting on Monday, 7 October 2013</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bob Mountain:Morning everyone</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Graeme Bunton:I bet they are in a conference room together, laughing and twisting their mustaches</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:LOL</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:Special place, where did he say?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:James, we think it's critical that the Registries weigh in!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:One reminder: in the TDRP, the losing Registrar always pays.....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:We only need to decide if/how to do a loser pays in the case of the Registrant/claimant</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Graeme Bunton:Agreed</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:Avri: There is an issue in the case of a Registrant-claimant as to *who* exactly the "losing party" is</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:SPeaking individually, This idea could be a deal-breaker for allowing registrants access to the TDRP</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:perhaps then we are looking for somethng other than aan ICANN DR process.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel::)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:James how ICANN of you. (-:</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Yes, we have become creatures of our environment. :)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:James, it's hard to think of a policy that works for registrars that do work hard for their customers and to resolve conflicts and how to deal with really PITA registrars.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Espeically given that the latter will just pass those fees thru to the affected party.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:i owuld assume that registrars that do the right thing and serve their customers are not the ones that will be hit by these disputes.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:well if passing the fees through to the a third party bad buy is an option, then what is the problem?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:... a thrid party bad guy ...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Volker Greimann:I can see how this would be modeled on the UDRP, so if you bring a process, you pay</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Kristine Dorrain:Actually Avri...people who use good registrars still get their names stolen. </div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:recordings are stopped i AC room</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Bladel:Hijackers tend to use terrble credit cards. ;)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:i think all of my credit cards are terrible.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Thank you</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:Do note that the publication deadline for Buenos Aires is 28 October....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:so if the intention is to obtain community input during BA, you are expected to publish by that date.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:However, if you are only planning to present / share the findings of the report, there may be more flexibility</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:You may also want to consider to present the report during BA and then formally publish it right after BA for public comment</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:to not get into trouble with the publication deadline and people complaining about releasing documents just prior to an ICANN meeting</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>