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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>meeting will be held during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aeres. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Monday 04 November 2013 at 16:00 UTC at<span style='color:black'>:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131104-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131104-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</a></span></u><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>nov</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>James Bladel - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Avri Doria – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Volker Greimann - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Angie Graves – CBUC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Graeme Bunton - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kristine Dorrain – NAF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul Diaz – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Rob Golding – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Mountain - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Barbara Knight – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kevin Erdman - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apologies:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris Chaplow – CBUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mailing list archives:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg">https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 04 November 2013:</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Meeting, Monday 4 November 2013<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):Hello all. I likely will have to drop off this call early<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):PS - great pic, Mikey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:both voices soud like under water to me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:but i am on AC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:Hooray!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bob Mountain:Has an invite been sent?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Lars Hoffmann:http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-irtp-d<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Remote Participation details for BA will be sent out later this week<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mike O'Connor:also a history<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):I believe Barbara K plans to dial-in to the BA session<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bladel:A bit faint, but I can hear you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Rob Golding has joiend the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:define recalitrant. it may be the case that the registrar merely sees the chances of prevailing in the TRDP differently<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Barbara Knight has joine dthe AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Barbara Knight-RySG:I have also joined the call. Thanks Nathalie.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:radical thought (bordering on the heretic) : could such issues not be better included in the UDRP?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:or even URS which has lighter weight.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:That would be super radical b/c the UDRP only deals with brandowners<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:well avri, the urs has no transfer element<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:then again if they want it back, needs to be more UDRPish<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:exactly thought of it as i pressed return<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i was wrong and backed off.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:I think it would/could be interesting to expore something more UDRP-like for registrants that do not own brands.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:indeed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Kevin Erdman has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i do nto understand this proposal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:we are going to change the TDRP, but not change it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:seems a problem to me that if a registrant has her name hijacked, she them needs to pay big bucks before she even gets a hearing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kevin Erdman:Avri, I think the first step is to change the form but not the substance of the TDRP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kevin Erdman:The second step would be to propose substantive changes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:ok, clean it up and then deltas. got it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:Avri: going to court can be much more expensive and that currentl is the only real recourse<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:Volker, nonetheless - while thinko fo remedies we should not compare against worst case, but should think in terms of fairness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:apologies, i have to drop off now to get to eht first IETF session. also for the BA session, there are conflicting sessisons, so it may be difficult to get a big audience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:i may not be here next week<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@avri - good luck :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:Thanks James and Mikey!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thanks mikey & james<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Barbara Knight-RySG:Thanks all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bob Mountain:Thanks guys!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton: thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>