<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">so can we say that in cases where the registrant and their registrar disagree about the merits of the case, they should go to Compliance for a determination?<div><br></div><div>m</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:45 AM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Mikey,<br>
<br>
if the registrant believes either the gaining or losing registrar
have violated transfer poliy, compliance is the way to go. If the
registrar is found to have been in breach of the RAA, he will be
required to mend the breach, one option of which may be initiating
the TDRP.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
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<div>good, but bewildering, discussion.</div>
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<div>so Volker, what do we do about the case where the registrar
and the registrant disagree about the merits? where does the
registrant go to get that disagreement resolved?</div>
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<div>m</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.12.2013 14:38, schrieb
Kevin Erdman:<br>
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<div>Hi Volker,</div>
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<div>Thanks for your clarification, and I understand
your position and I disagree with it, for two reasons.</div>
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<div>First reason is the initial impetus to go down this
line was domain hijacking, registrar #1 gets a
fraudulent authorization that ends up with a new party
in control of a domain at a new registrar. In this
case, both real parties and both registrars need to be
involved because all have potential liability.</div>
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The current registrar is involved in the UDRP as well, and
required to provide certain information, assist with the
transfer and lock and unlock the domain name. <br>
Further, the fact of whether a transfer authorization in
case of a hijacking is fraudulent or not does not even
matter IIRC as the transfer process usually is not
violated in such cases, but the TDRP exclusively deals
with policy violations.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:BLU406-EAS374C6309D9EAD029F5FAE4EABD40@phx.gbl" type="cite"><br>
<div>Second reason is that UDRP2 for domain ownership
disputes might be a good idea in general, but that
idea is beyond the scope of our Working Group's
charter. We might include this idea as a potential
new area to develop, but just not here.</div>
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If it is outside our scope, we can still recommend this be
looked at in a future UDRP reform or new PDP if we agree
that such a process would be the better way to deal with
the issue.<br>
<br>
I disagree with the notion that we should force a
registrar to charge into a dispute, at its own risk, for
cases it sees as having no merit. There is a reason why
the current TDRP is an elective method and I see no reason
to change that.<br>
<br>
From the TDRP: <br>
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/tdrp">http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/tdrp</a>)<br>
"In cases where this is unsuccessful and where a <i>registrar
elects to file </i>a dispute, the following procedures
apply. "<br>
and<br>
"<i>Transfer dispute resolution fees can be substantial</i>"<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>Kevin R Erdman</div>
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On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:09, "Volker Greimann" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Kevin,<br>
<br>
I think you misunderstood me. By UDRP2 I do not
mean the same process, but a new process modeled
on the UDRP precedures. Of course the questions
that would have to be answered by the panels would
be different from those asked in the current UDRP.<br>
<br>
Basically:<br>
1) Was the complainant the previous owner?<br>
2) Can the previous owner show that the
transfer/change of ownership occurred illegally?<br>
3) Can the respondent demonstrate evidence to the
contrary?<br>
<br>
It remains a dispute between two parties: The
previous owner and the current owner.<br>
No need to drag anyone else in there as a party.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<div>Hi Volker,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I agree that ownership issues are a key
to this discussion. However, when the
ownership issue only relates to a domain at
a single registrar, traditional contract
principles apply and make those situations a
standard contractual dispute handled with
regard to ICANN contracts and
registrant-registrar contracts. The problem
falls outside of this context when the
domain is also transferred, so that multiple
parties may be involved in resolving the
ownership issue and that is the problem we
are discussing—I believe that handling
unauthorized ownership changes within a
registrar is not part of our Charter.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The UDRP explicitly does not deal with
who should own a domain, rather one possible
resolution of the UDRP procedure is the
transfer of a domain name. The issues that
a dispute resolution panel has to deal with
is the the activities of the domain owner,
the trademark rights of the complaint filer,
and the question of whether the registration
and/or use of the domain is in bad faith in
light of the trademark rights. Ownership
transfer is a possible form of relief, but
not an issue that the dispute resolution
panel evaluates. From the perspective of a
registry, the UDRP involves some input and
the output is who gets to own the domain.
However, from the perspective of registrars
and registrants, the UDRP is all about the
nature and extent of trademark rights and
the domain name in question.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>IMO, the only similarity between
resolving ownership issues and the UDRP is
the last step, that a form of relief may be
a forced transfer of a domain. Otherwise,
the UDRP does not deal with the ownership
issues of which we are concerned.</div>
<div>____________________________<br>
Kevin R Erdman<br>
Reichel IP LLP<br>
212 West 10th Street, Suite D-280<br>
Indianapolis, IN 46202<br>
voice 317.677.0689<br>
fax 317.454.1349<br>
email <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kevin@reichelip.com">kevin@reichelip.com</a><br>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="vgreimann@key-systems.net" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">Volker
Greimann</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December
04, 2013 4:32 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="h.raiche@internode.on.net" href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net">Holly
Raiche</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="krerdman@live.com" href="mailto:krerdman@live.com">Kevin
Erdman</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="kdorrain@adrforum.com" href="mailto:kdorrain@adrforum.com">Dorrain,
Kristine</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="jbladel@godaddy.com" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">James
M. Bladel</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="mike@haven2.com" href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">Mike
O'Connor</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="gnso-irtpd@icann.org" href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-irtpd]
here's the little summary of that
sequence of events i rattled off on
the call just now -- registrant role
in TDRP</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Kevin and
Holly,<br>
<br>
one aspect we noted previously was that
the issues at hand look more like
ownership issues than transfer issues, as
the exact same problems for the registrant
may exist when no transfer has taken
place. Therefore a process that focusses
on unauthorized ownership changes rather
than transfers may be better to deal with
the the actual problem.<br>
<br>
And the issue of who should own a domain
is more commonly dealt with under the UDRP
(albeit under different conditions) than
the TDRP, which does not deal with such
issues at all, or only as a result from
process violation.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:249BCFDF-7322-4596-A4F2-9B2C93CE1FCC@internode.on.net" type="cite"><base href="x-msg://408/">Well
said Kevin
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<div>Holly<br>
<div>
<div>On 04/12/2013, at 4:57 AM, Kevin
Erdman wrote:</div>
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<div>I disagree. The UDRP
is designed to correct
misbehavior of a valid
domain name owner relating
to that owner’s use of a
domain name, namely that
the use of a domain
infringes the rights of a
trademark owner. The
basis of the complaint is
not that the domain name
owner did not validly
register the domain, but
rather that the use of the
domain is a trademark
violation. The facts and
circumstances of the
ownership of trademark
rights and the trademark
infringement are outside
of the knowledge of the
registrars and
registries. The UDRP
procedures are designed to
get the facts in front of
the dispute resolution
panel to provide the
trademark owner with a
remedy to trademark
infringement that may be
difficult or impossible to
obtain judicially.</div>
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<div>The TDRP is about
correcting a bad domain
transfer, and the
circumstances of the
transfer are mostly known
to the registrars and
registries, but there
might be some oversight
that a registrar or a
registrant would want
corrected. I think we
should focus on where the
TDRP leaves a registrant
or a registrar without a
remedy, and only provide
more procedures for
scenarios where a remedy
is not currently
available.</div>
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Reichel IP LLP<br>
212 West 10th Street,
Suite D-280<br>
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voice 317.677.0689<br>
fax 317.454.1349<br>
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<div><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="kdorrain@adrforum.com" style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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blue" href="mailto:kdorrain@adrforum.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Dorrain, Kristine</a></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:43
PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vgreimann@key-systems.net" style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline;
COLOR: blue" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">'Volker Greimann'</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="jbladel@godaddy.com" style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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blue" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" moz-do-not-send="true">James M. Bladel</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mike@haven2.com" style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<div><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="gnso-irtpd@icann.org" style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; COLOR:
blue" href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a></div>
<div><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [gnso-irtpd] here's the little
summary of that
sequence of events i
rattled off on the
call just now --
registrant role in
TDRP</div>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:41
AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dorrain, Kristine; James M.
Bladel; Mike
O'Connor<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-irtpd] here's the little
summary of that
sequence of
events i rattled
off on the call
just now --
registrant role
in TDRP<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="font-size:
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of Trademark aside,
I see many more
similarities between
the UDRP and the
issue of legitimate
ownership of a
domain than between
that issue and the
TDRP. After all,
both are disputes
between parties
about who should be
the legitimate owner
of a domain name.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<br>
So while we may not
want to open the
UDRP to new
complaints, we may
want to look at
creating a UDRP2
that is designed for
exactly these
issues.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<br>
In both cases the
registrar is asked
to do certain things
in preparation for
the dispute and as
its result, in both
parts the question
of the ultimate
ownership of a
domain name is
decided by an
independant panel.<br>
<br>
Volker<o:p></o:p></div>
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for the record, I
think adding a
Registrants option
to the UDRP would
be just as mucked
up as adding it
here. In my
humble opinion
this warrants an
entirely new
policy or none at
all. We don’t
need to reinvent
the Rules….UDRPs
Rules are great.
Just create the
Policy itself,
which is entirely
TM focused and
would be a beast
to open up to
non-TM holders. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE:
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COLOR: blue" href="mailto:owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:09
AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>James M. Bladel; Mike O'Connor<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-irtpd] here's the little
summary of
that sequence
of events i
rattled off on
the call just
now --
registrant
role in TDRP</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:
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James,<br>
<br>
excellent points
there. I think the
case with your
example is that
this is not
actually a case
where a registrar
is a party to the
dispute. Maybe it
is a star witness
required to
provide the
information only
it can provide,
but not a party.
Those roles are
better left to
prior and current
registrant.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<br>
This however begs
the question if
ICANN should
implement another
process for
registrants to
solve their
disputes, or if
this may not be
better relegated
to a future
re-design of the
UDRP? We could for
example make a
recommendation
that the UDRP be
expanded to cover
also domain
ownership issues
in any future
revision of that
policy.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
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thoughts
everyone. I
think perhaps we
should try to
capture the
various
scenarios in the
“Reasons for
Denial” area,
where a
registrar can
legitimately
deny a
registrant’s
request to
initiate a TDRP.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="font-size:
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example: if the
Registrant
believes that
the identity of
the registrant
is in question,
or that they
cannot
substantiate
that they were
ever the
legitimate
registrant (or
Transfer
Contact) for the
name
pre-transfer.
If its a
scenario in
which the
registrar has
violated the
IRTP, (or even
the shiny new
TDRP we’re
developing),
then that is a
matter for
Compliance and
the registrar's
accreditation
could be
at-risk. But we
should avoid any
process where a
registrar is
compelled to
initiate a TDRP
that they
believe is
without merit,
-and- be forced
to pay for the
proceedings.<o:p></o:p></div>
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sans-serif">Mike
O'Connor <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, December 3, 2013 at
10:09<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Volker
Greimann <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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COLOR: blue" href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a>" <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
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<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-irtpd] here's the
little summary
of that
sequence of
events i
rattled off on
the call just
now --
registrant
role in TDRP</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div>
<div style="font-size:
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Volker,<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="font-size:
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margin: 0in
0in 0pt; ">i'm
trying to
remedy the
situation
where a
registrar is
either in
violation of
the IRTP
themselves
(refusing to
allow the
registrant to
transfer out)
or is
presumptively
denying the
registrant due
process in a
dispute
between
registrars.
this was
recognized as
an oversight
in the policy
back in the
misty past
when this
series of IRTP
PDPs was
launched.<o:p></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div style="font-size:
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<div style="font-size:
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don't care how
this happens.
registrars are
probably in
the best
position to
figure out the
best way to
get this done
and i'm happy
to leave that
discussion up
to them. i
like James'
"put pressure
on Registrars
to comply"
approach since
that seems
like a
lighter/simpler
one but i can
live with
anything that
fixes that
problem. what
i'm not keen
on the idea of
leaving
registrants in
their current
situation
where these
decisions get
made "for
them" by
registrars
with no
recourse for
trapped
registrants
except
worldwide
courts.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div>
<div style="font-size:
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Dec 3, 2013,
at 9:51 AM,
Volker
Greimann <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
underline;
COLOR: blue" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:
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">Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
you are
assuming that
registrants
should be
beneficiaries
of the TDRP.
They are not.
Therefore a
registrar not
initiating a
TDRP is not
blocking the
registrants
access as they
do not have
such an access
in the first
place.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<br>
If you want to
give the
registrant a
way to force a
registrar to
initiate a
proceeding
against
another
registrar,
that is
another story,
but that way
needs to
include an
obligation of
the registrant
to pay the
costs and a
right of a
registrar to
charge for
this service
(to cover the
work needed to
handle the
process).<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="font-size:
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think the key
distinction i
want to draw
is with your
sentence "give
registrants
access to" the
TDRP. that's
not the
intent. the
intent is to
ensure that
registrants
are not
blocked from
that process
by their
registrar.
the hope here
is to provide
an appeal
mechanism in
those cases
where
registrar and
registrant
disagree on
whether a TDRP
is warranted.
but i'm fine
setting the
bar for that
appeal pretty
high.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="font-size:
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Dec 2, 2013,
at 11:47 AM,
Volker
Greimann <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:
underline;
COLOR: blue" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></div>
<div>
<div>
<div style="font-size:
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still feel
that giving
registrants
access to the
TDRP process
dilutes its
purpose as an
inter-registrar
dispute
process
designed to
deal with
process
violations and
will turn it
into a
transfer
dispute
process
between
registrants,
dragging
registrars and
registries
into a civil
conflict
between two
parties. This
will result in
increased
costs and work
for contracted
parties.<br>
<br>
If a registrar
is violating
transfer
processes,
there will be
sufficient
incentive for
affected
registrars to
call them out
and if
necessary
invoke the
current
process.<br>
<br>
What we need
to look at
instead is if
creating an
alternate
process
between
registrant and
former
registrant
regarding the
ownership of a
domain name
makes sense.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<br>
I am also a
big fan of the
line "He who
wants to hear
the music
should pay for
the band!",
i.e. if a
registrant
wants a
process to be
invoked, he
should be
prepared to
pony up the
fees, just as
with the UDRP.
Adding a
"loser pays"
clause makes
sense to me,
but in that
case it will
remain the
risk of the
complainant
that the
respondent
cannot pay/is
unreachable/etc...<br>
<br>
Volker<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div><p style="font-size:
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0in;
margin-right:
0in; ">Provide
the ability
for the
registrant to
trigger the
TDRP process
in cases when
they disagree
with their
registrar over
an IRTP issue<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
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roman'">
<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>In
general,
registrars
initiate TDRP
when they
can't resolve
matters
between
themselves<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
12pt;
margin-left:
0.5in;
margin-right:
0in; ">In the
case of
disagreement
between
registrar and
registrant as
to whether to
initiate a
TDRP, provide
a path for the
registrant to
take the issue
to Compliance<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
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margin-left:
0.5in;
margin-right:
0in; ">Build
minimum
documentation
requirements
for
registrants
into the
policy as a
filter to
prevent
frivolous
filings<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
12pt;
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0.5in;
margin-right:
0in; ">If
Compliance
agrees with
registrant,
TDRP proceeds
as normal,
with fees paid
by registrars,
as normal<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
12pt;
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0.5in;
margin-right:
0in; ">If
Compliance
disagrees with
registrant,
that's it --
it's off to
court if the
registrant
wants to
proceed.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="font-size:
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Web: <a style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; COLOR: blue" href="http://www.key-systems.net/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; COLOR: blue" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">- legal department -<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">Email: <a style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; COLOR: blue" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; ">CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></pre>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu/">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.brandshelter.com/">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu/">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.brandshelter.com/">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu/">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.brandshelter.com/">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu/">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net/">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.brandshelter.com/">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu/">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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