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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>meeting will be <b>held on Monday 16th December 2013</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Monday 09 December 2013 at 16:00 UTC at:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131209-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131209-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</a></span></u><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>dec</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>James Bladel - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Avri Doria – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Volker Greimann - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Graeme Bunton - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Barbara Knight – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kevin Erdman - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris Chaplow – CBUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Mountain - RrSG</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rob Golding - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kristine Dorrain – NAF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Bartlett </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Morgan - NCUC</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apologies:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul Diaz – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Angie Graves - CBUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Caitlin Tubergen <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mailing list archives:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg">https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 09 December 2013:</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, Welcome to the IRTP Part D WG call on Monday 9th December 2013<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:Hard to read on tablet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:Thanks good now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Kevin Erdman has joined the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Chris Chaplow has joined the audio bridge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Rob Golding has joinded the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Chaplow:Thanks Natalie, apologies for late join, client was on the phone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@james - totally agree - we get those all the time - and advise they talk to a solicitor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):As registrar we only deal with the people listed as registrant<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bladel:But Rob - both Registrant and Admin Contacts have the authority to transfer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:Sorry I'm late...got sidetracked in another meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):I was referring to the 'ownership' argument we often see<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Can you even transfe a domain with provacy on - we always advise clients turn it off at the existing registrar before transferring them to us<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):yes, you captured it great :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Kristine Dorrain has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Barbara Knight - RySG:The one that we hear the most is when the admin contact authorizes that transfer and the registrant doesn't agree with it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bladel:Rob - our privacy service will always NACK transfer requests, utnil it is canceled or removed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):James - so will ours<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Barbara Knight - RySG:Thanks James and Rob. That is encouraging<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Chaplow:Thanks Volker<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):No, the registrant is the registrant :p<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):The registrar still has teh real data and escrows the real data<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):just what is shown on teh whois is not 'public'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):if a 3rd party os providding that sevice, then yes, they are actually the registrant (i.e. their details are the ones held by the registrar)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bladel:My shuttle is here, so need to run. Thanks Mikey & Team!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Barbara Knight - RySG:By James. Safe travels<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):take care james<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Yes, in that circumstance it _should_ have been dealt with at due-diligence at the company sale, and if they failed to do so need to be sent to legals<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:Rob, I'm always amazed at the lack of due diligence...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@kristine - I'm not :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain:oooooh, that's unfortunate. "(<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Chaplow:yes good plan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Holly Raiche:Thanks MIkey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thanks mikey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>