<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Dear Barbara, all,</div><div><br></div><div><div>I just wanted to confirm whether you are referring to a formal minority view as outlined in the GNSO Operating Procedures. If so, these are normally included as part of the Final Report and as such would need to be included before the report is published (which was foreseen for today). It is unfortunate of course that this comes so late into the process, but at the same time, it is probably worth for the WG to consider how to deal with this issue as a formal minority statement on the statue of limitations could also trigger requests from others such as ALAC and Thomas Rickert to include a similar minority statement on extending the statue of limitations to 15 months. Of course, if you are not referring to a formal minority statement but comments that some RySG members may make as part of the Council deliberations or public comment forum prior to Board consideration, then there may not be any need for further WG consideration.</div><div><br></div><div>Regardless, one possible way to address the concern might be to consider an amendment to 4.2.7.1 (p.35) of the Final Report. This is the section, in which the proposed issues for a future review of the IRTP are listed. Maybe an additional bullet point might address the RySG concerns and assure that future changes to (or reversals of) policy regarding the statute of limitations are based on relevant data points:</div><ul><li>The period of time between the occurrence of an alleged non-compliant transfer and the launch of an IRTP process – including those incidents where there no IRTP was launched due to the expiration of the statute of limitations.</li></ul></div><div>Maybe this would address some of the concerns raised?</div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Lars</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <Knight>, Barbara Knight <<a href="mailto:BKnight@verisign.com">BKnight@verisign.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Monday, 22 September 2014 05:17<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> James Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, Paul Diaz <<a href="mailto:pdiaz@pir.org">pdiaz@pir.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Lars HOFFMANN <<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [gnso-irtpd] RE: For your (final?) review<br></div><div><br></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">James,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As per my previous email, there has been some discussion within the RySG relating to recommendations #5 and #15. In my previous communication, I provided a
summary of the discussion relating to recommendation #15. With regard to #5, which calls for extending the statute of limitations for filing a dispute from 6 months to 12, the discussion surrounded the goal of the recommendation in striking a balance between
registrant protections and legal certainty. The question was raised as to whether extending the statute would enhance registrant protection. It was pointed out that if this is, indeed, the goal, it should be supported by data. As we have discussed on previous
WG calls, having supporting data has long been a hot topic so I can understand this concern amongst the RySG.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Those individuals who have expressed concerns may opt, at a future point in time, to submit a minority statement expressing their concerns. However, at this
time, the RySG generally supports the IRTP-D final report. Thanks.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.5pt"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 106, 170);">Barbara Knight</span></b><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(107, 109, 113);"><br>
Director of Registry Compliance<br>
<a href="mailto:bknight@Verisign.com">bknight@Verisign.com</a><br><br>
m: 703-622-1071 t: 703-948-3343<br>
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<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 19, 2014 7:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Diaz<br><b>Cc:</b> Knight, Barbara; Lars Hoffmann; <a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-irtpd] RE: For your (final?) review<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Paul. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We still have the option of lowering our consensus level from "Full Consensus/Unanimous" to "Consensus," but will wait to hear back from Barbara. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">And to the Chair of IRTP-A: it's been a long and interesting road, but we are finally nearing the end. ;)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">J. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>
Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Sep 19, 2014, at 17:48, "Paul Diaz" <<a href="mailto:pdiaz@pir.org">pdiaz@pir.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi James, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The RySG does not require unanimity to express its support. Rather than say "RySG does not fully support," the WG might consider noting that there was some concern about specific recommendations, but no outright opposition (assuming the
conditions below).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As Barbara noted, she's interacting with the few Registry reps that have raised concerns. IMO, Rec #15 would require a lot more effort than anyone is prepared to undertake at this time. Since IRTP-D merely recommends "avoiding" policy specific
sanctions, there's always room for some other WG to take this issue up in the future. Barbara, you might want to challenge the person who raised this issue if the wording is sufficient (i.e. flexible for the future) or offer some edit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rec #5 is still under discussion; hopefully we'll have clarity by Monday's call. Barbara has explained the WG's logic behind the recommendation. Perhaps its time to directly ask if any RySG member really opposes the measure, or just wishes
the status quo remains? Absent outright opposition, I think it's fair to say the RySG generally supports the IRTP-D's recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, I have a pre-existing schedule conflict and won't be able to join you on the 22nd, but I wanted to thank and congratulate everyone for seeing the IRTP PDPs through to the end. It's hard to believe this all started in 2008
...er, maybe not!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best, P<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:31 PM, James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks, Barbara.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I’m curious: What would be involved if the RySG does not “fully support” a recommendation, due to a single member’s disagreement? How would this be reflected in our report?
Does the RySG only support (and vote on council) if their membership is unanimous?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks—<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">J.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">"Knight, Barbara" <<a href="mailto:BKnight@verisign.com"><span style="color:purple">BKnight@verisign.com</span></a>><br><b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, September 19, 2014 at 16:28<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lars Hoffmann <<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[gnso-irtpd] RE: For your (final?) review<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Lars,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:18.0pt"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thank you for sending the updated report. I circulated a previous version of the report to the RySG and have received some limited
feedback this week. Based on the feedback received, there are two recommendations for which the RySG is unable to voice full support at this time. The first is Recommendation #15 - “As a guidance to future policy development processes, this Working Group
recommends that policy specific sanctions be avoided wherever possible.” One member of the RySG provided feedback that since there are more sanctions available now, that it may make sense for the policy-making effort to link specific violations to specific
sanctions rather than transfering this responsibility to ICANN staff. The second is Recommendation #5 – “The WG recommends that the statute of limitation to launch a TDRP be extended from current 6 months to 12 months from the initial transfer.” This item
is still under discussion. I will let the WG know as soon as possible whether or not the concerns raised with regard to this recommendation have been resolved or if it will be necessary to note that the RySG is unable to fully support this recommendation
as well. Thanks. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.5pt"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 106, 170);">Barbara Knight</span></b><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(107, 109, 113);"><br>
Director of Registry Compliance<br><a href="mailto:bknight@Verisign.com"><span style="color:purple">bknight@Verisign.com</span></a><br><br>
m: 703-622-1071 t: 703-948-3343<br>
12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190<br><br><a href="http://www.verisigninc.com/"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#006AAA;text-decoration:none">VerisignInc.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">mailto:owner-gnso-irtpd@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lars Hoffmann<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, September 19, 2014 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-irtpd@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-irtpd@icann.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[gnso-irtpd] For your (final?) review</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find attached the Final Report including the Executive Summary. There are very few changes (all redlined) to the version I sent out on Tuesday and to which<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>no
comments/changes/amendments were submitted</b>. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">To clarify the Groups’ Recommendation two small amendments are suggested (redlined) to the explanations of Recommendations #1 and #18.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If you have any comments/suggested edits, please submit these asap.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please also find below the agenda for Monday’s call. Many thanks and have a good weekend!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Lars</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Agenda – IRTP Part D Working Group Meeting - 22 September 2014</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">1. Roll Call/SOI Update</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">2. Reviewing final changes</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">3. Agreeing on consensus level </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">4. Review next steps and – if necessary – confirm next meeting </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span></body></html>