[Gnso-newgtld-dg] Fwd: RE: [] Comments to the Executive Summary and gTLD Matrix
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Apr 9 15:28:36 UTC 2015
Hi Alain,
I fear I agree that this would probably be seen as anti-competitive as
it would exclude those applicants looking to spread the risk and cost
over as many TLDs as possible. Maybe a merit-based grading system of
contested applications would actually solve this problem much better as
large protfolio applicants would face a disadvantage in crafting
individual and tailored registration policies and applications as
opposed to boutique applicants.
Best,
Volker
>
> Anyway, in the current round, big players and speculators have too
> much influence on the rules and impact public interest in a negative
> way… This has to be addressed one way or another.
>
Actually, this conclusion would have to be proven. While many view
certain issues as detrimental (as do I), there may not be an actual harm
outweighing potential benefits. I would hesitate to assign judgement on
any potential issue at this time. That would follow in the later review
and analysis.
> Regards
>
> Alain
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> *From:*gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann
> *Sent:* jeudi 9 avril 2015 16:11
> *To:* gnso-newgtld-dg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Fwd: RE: [] Comments to the Executive
> Summary and gTLD Matrix
>
> Instead of capping the number of applications any entity can make, it
> might be helpful to ensure a system to resolve contention sets in a
> different manner than in the current round. A continuation of the
> current auction model might lead to gaming as well, where parties with
> no interest in running a TLD could feel encouraged to take a chance at
> the post-private-auction payout.
>
> In any case, a cap on applications by any one entity is easily
> circumventable by creating holding companies for each application.
>
> Volker
>
> Am 07.04.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:
>
> Michael
>
> Would the same issue arise if each entity was limited to one
> application each?
>
> Though I tend to agree with your idea of “weighting” as being more
> useful and less likely to be either “gamed” or simply circumvented
>
> Regards
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> [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> D. Palage
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 2, 2015 5:42 PM
> *To:* 'Tijani BEN JEMAA'; avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>;
> gnso-newgtld-dg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Fwd: RE: [] Comments to the
> Executive Summary and gTLD Matrix
>
> Hello All,
>
> Not to sound like a lawyer, but here goes. Attempting to restrict
> the number of applications an applicant can file is fraught with
> significant anti-trust considerations and is really a non-starter.
> Or more simply stated there is no way Joe Simms would sign-off on
> this limitation, especially if ICANN achieves its independent from
> the USG in the near future.
>
> I think the more constructive (and viable) approach is to focus on
> the weighing of community applications and potential alternate
> resolution option in connection with contention sets. This is
> where I think ICANN really missed the mark in connection with this
> round with a number of community / community like applications
> being held hostage or eliminated by deep pocket portfolio applicants.
>
> This imbalance in ICANN’s most current round is something that I
> foreshadowed over 4 years ago, see
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/new_gtld_auctions_and_potential_unintended_consequences/
> I would appreciate if anyone things a part of the solution to our
> problems, can be found in my article from over 4 years ago.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>
> *From:*gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Tijani
> BEN JEMAA
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1, 2015 2:06 PM
> *To:* avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>;
> gnso-newgtld-dg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Fwd: RE: [] Comments to the
> Executive Summary and gTLD Matrix
>
> Avri,
>
> GENERAL THOUGHT ON GTLD NEW ROUND
>
> 1. Put a ceiling to the applications submitted by a single group
> (group and not company, because we have seen Afilias and M & M
> using subsidiaries or other signposts...
>
> This because the slate applications create war machines where the
> economy of scale makes irrelevant if not convenient to use all
> degrees of possibles claims just to filibustering competitors;
>
> Agree
>
> 2. Create for community based applications some simple rules as
> was made for geo names. The clarity and simplicity of the rules
> for geo names, discourage the vultures (not all of them) to apply
> for geo names when the appropriate legal entities applied. The
> unclarity of the rules for the other non-geo communities pushed
> many gTLD to defy community based similar strings. In most of the
> case they were right in doing so.
>
> For instance for sector where exist associations recognized at
> regional level (such as .bank, insurance, lawyers, etc.) this give
> a legitimacy as a community, even if such associations don't exist
> in all continents.
>
> For "political" and "civil liberties" associations the criteria of
> geographic coverage need to be lifted and adapted to existing
> situation. Asking. Gay to be supported in countries where still
> homosexuality is a crime is an evident nonsense.
>
> While I agree with you, I find it not enough for 2 reasons:
>
> ·For poor community, we don’t have only to protect their right of
> having their own string, but we need to find the right way to
> support them in their application, exactly like we must do for
> applications from developing economies (think of the Tamil
> community who want to have their string to promote their language
> and their culture)
>
> ·Community based applications were not assessed against clear and
> objective criteria. The mechanism by which the assessment was made
> should be reviewed. Sure, there should be guaranties that the
> process will not be gamed, but there must be guaranties that the
> assessment will be done in a fair and objective manner.
>
> 3. Clear criteria to create positive discrimination for developing
> countries and poorer regions of the world .
>
> Any application that is expression or get support from LDC and
> underdeveloped regions need to receive an incentive and a
> priority. If this will not happen, even the next round will be
> characterized by a predominance of the western applicants. Of
> course the support have to be expressed by real and existing
> bodies, not from mirror entities of multinationals or local
> offices of Western companies….
>
> There was proposals for dedicating the upcoming round for
> developing economies and poor communities. I think it was a fair
> proposal because the competition between those applicants and the
> northern one can’t be fair because they don’t have the same tools.
> It is a kind of positive discrimination
>
> If not a dedicated round, I would propose specific conditions and
> rules for developing economies and poor communities, for example:
>
> ·Since the program development cost was recovered, I think that
> this kind of application should be free of charge (remember that
> we was told when we were fighting for lowering the application fee
> for the first round: “they have to wait for the upcoming round
> when we will recover the program developing cost”).
>
> ·An accompanying support program should be developed to help these
> applicants at all levels (we need to work on it deeply)
>
> 4. Clear rules against filibustering
>
> Norms need to be issued to prevent the abuse of dominant position.
> Those that make opposition without solid ground and multiple
> opposition to any competitor and that loose the claims need to be
> penalized. For instance imposing a growing deposits of sums in
> case of multiple oppositions that will be lost in case of defeat.
>
> At the moment to go into RfR, CEP, IRP cost a fortune only to
> those that don’t have a permanent staff of lawyers under contract.
> For these latter, at a marginal cost, they could blackmail
> everybody oppose them.
>
> Agree
>
> 5. Protections for the weaker subjects in case of dispute
>
> Because of the disparity of forces, it is absolutely unfair to
> have disputes opposing self-funded voluntary based organization
> (such as .gay) to DOT.companies. ICANN needs to set aside a fund
> or a group of experts to assists the weaker subjects when they
> have to oppose this kind of adversary. A sort of asymmetric
> treatment need be established: lesser fees, no deposit, and other
> measure to ensure equality of chances also to the poorer and farer
> from Californians beaches…
>
> Agree
>
> 6. Clear rules to preserve democracy within ICANN
>
> Having accepted that 3 companies specialized in DOT.economy could
> apply for hundreds of TLDs risk to have a longlasting effects on
> the democratic process within ICANN. How to prevent that the Big
> 3 or 5 take over the whole gNSO constituency (achieving a
> practical possibility of veto of any decisions of ICANN they
> dislike or that could hamper their interests ?
>
> Absolutely
>
> SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION ON CPE
>
> A. The attribution of the points is very much questionable and
> too much left to the discretion of the evaluators;
>
> B. The selection of the body in charge of the CPE needs to be made
> taking in account the specificity of the scope. Ask the EIU to
> judge about community is like asking a carnivore to judge about
> the best vegetarian dish.
>
> If the scope is to evaluate communities, then ICANN has to ask to
> association on NGOS or of Charity funds or to UN bodies in charge
> of humanitarian issues, because they can understand the
> representativity of the applicants, its relations with the
> territorial entities, and so on;
>
> C. the minimum score of 14 points out of sixteen is a total
> nonsense. There is no reason to have such a high score to be
> recognized as a community. The natural suspect is that the bar has
> been put so high to boycott the community applicants and to keep
> them out of the door.
>
> D. The decisions about the future TLD’s round concerning
> communities need to be established in partnership with the
> community TLDs. Their interest cannot be represented by RySG that
> is mainly populated by people that pursue a totally different
> scope: to make money out of it
>
> E. The impossibility to contact the evaluator has left grey areas
> where mistakes could happen. We had no possibility to verify who
> (among the supporting organizations) has been called and who was
> not. There was no way to communicate changes of names (the
> responsible people change within democratically elected bodies) of
> the person to contact within the supporting organizations. ICANN
> has to create a special task force that could act as go between
> the future EIU and the applicants
>
> F. Has to be made clear if the evaluator has to verify EACH letter
> of support (as it seems from the guidelines) or if it can go only
> checking some samplers…
>
> I agree on all your points about the specific consideration on CPE
>
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