<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Well, if it is important to some member to elect a Chair they want then we can still postpone the election. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care about the election, but if the majority of the group feels better that way we should postpone it. Nevertheless I agree we should just get on and start working. It is not like we would need an elected Chair instead of a interim Chair to start in my opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>Tobias</div><br><div><div>On 08.08.2014, at 17:34, Liz Williams <<a href="mailto:tldomainsolutions@gmail.com">tldomainsolutions@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div>Couldn't we just get on and do the work...it is not as if any decisions that bind anyone will be made and there is a LONG way it go before this turns into a new iteration of a guidebook.</div><div><br></div><div>There isn't any need to hang about and wait for anything...even if some parts of half the world might still be taking short summer vacations...</div><div><br></div><div>Liz<br><br>...<div>Liz Williams</div><div><a href="mailto:tldomainsolutions@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">tldomainsolutions@gmail.com</a></div><div>m: +44 7824877757</div><div>t: +44 1392 581 214</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.lizwilliams.net/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.lizwilliams.net</a></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 8 Aug 2014, at 15:15, "Ron Andruff" <<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I apologize for initiating an unintended divide. Perhaps I can push this discussion in another direction. How do folks feel about a non-contracted party Chair? That would put some distance between some of the things Stephane has highlighted and perhaps satisfy those who would like to see ‘unconflicted’ as much as possible. Optically, that might also fit the bill.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Regarding how many, i.e., 1 Chair with V Chairs or 2 Co-Chairs, etc. if I understood Brett’s and Matt’s original mail, this group is expected to raise as many issues as possible and formulate them into some type of cogent document that will live on past this ‘Discussion Group’ – hence the name. That is to say, I understand that this is really preliminary work. If in fact that is the case, one Chair, with one V Chair (should the Chair be absent) would probably suffice, in my view.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">RA<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ron Andruff<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">ONR Consulting, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephane Van Gelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, August 8, 2014 05:26<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tobias Sattler<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Agenda for First Meeting of the DiscussionGroup for New gTLD Subsequent Rounds<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I am conflicted here (pun intended).<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On the one hand, I have never agreed with the self-flagellation that ICANN imposed on itself (starting with the Board) over conflicts of interest.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">To be blunt, there are very few active ICANN community participants who have no horse in whatever race is being discussed at the time.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">What agonizing over conflicts of interests has done IMO, is ensure that the people with the right amount of knowledge are kept at arm's length and therefore cannot bring that knowledge to useful community debates.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On the other hand, I think it's very hard in this instance to argue with Ron's points on optics. A group discussing the second round that selects as its chair a registry or registrar might pose problems in this regard.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Contradictory I know...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Also, we may choose someone who appears to have no conflict now, and who turns out to be an applicant in the second round! There's just no way of knowing that now. The person in question might not even know, because plans and business opportunities change...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">This is why in the past, I've tended to advocate a non anal approach to COIs. But once again, I see Ron's point...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Best,<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Stéphane Van Gelder<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Milathan LTD</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">"Internet Intelligence - Strategic Advice"<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">----------------<br>Discover The Milathan Post on <a href="http://post.milathan.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://post.milathan.com</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On 8 August 2014 08:57, Tobias Sattler <<a href="mailto:sattler@united-domains.de" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">sattler@united-domains.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I tend to agree with Craig and Rubens. From my personal perspective I don’t think we would find a person that has no horse in the race, because<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">then this person wouldn’t be part of this DG in the first place. Furthermore I second the suggestion from Michele and Jeff of holding off on<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">selection / election. We do have an interim Chair and not hurry.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="hoenzb"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Tobias</span></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On 07.08.2014, at 20:27, Craig Schwartz <<a href="mailto:craig@ftld.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">craig@ftld.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Agree with Ruben that being a registry (prospective, incumbent or future applicant) does not bring conflict.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Good luck finding someone in our very small space that couldn't be accused of some form of conflict.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br>Craig Schwartz<br>Managing Director<br>fTLD Registry Services, LLC<br>600 13th Street, NW<br>Suite 400<br>Washington, DC 20005<br>Office: +1 202 589 2532<br>Cell:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:%2B1%20202%20236%201154" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">+1 202 236 1154</a><br>Skype: craig-schwartz<br>Twitter: ftld_Registry<br><br>Please visit us at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.ftld.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.ftld.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br><br>On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:06:49 -0300, Rubens Kuhl<<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">rubensk@nic.br</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: black; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt;"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Ron,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I disagree. Being a registry (prospective, incumbent or future applicant) does not bring conflict. Following my suggestion of having 2 leadership positions (whether is chair/vice-chair, co-chairs etc.), I think it would be good to have one from each house (contracted parties and non-contracted parties).<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The idea of having no horses in the race would make everybody conflicted, as even current end-user registrants could be seen as conflicted since some people argue that the more new gTLDs there are, the less his or her domain is worth; every stakeholder has an interest in the program, but having an interest is different from having a conflict of interest. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Rubens<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Em 07/08/2014, à(s) 14:59:000, Ron Andruff<<a href="mailto:randruff@rnapartners.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">randruff@rnapartners.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My thought on the election of leadership is more focused on process, i.e., the Chair, V Chairs, or whatever the group decides is best, should be unconflicted. That is to say, they should neither be applicants nor new registries. Within the long list of members, I am sure that we can select those that have no horses in the race, as they say. In this way both the work and the optics will demonstrate transparency and accountability in an appropriate manner.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My two cents…<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">RA<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ron Andruff<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">ONR Consulting, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Eckhaus<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:08<br><b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Agenda for First Meeting of the Discussion Group for New gTLD Subsequent Rounds<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I second the suggestion of holding off on selection/election until the group fills out<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Jeff<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight<<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">michele@blacknight.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Everyone should have an SOI</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If they don't have one setting one up is not hard</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">..</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I'd also respectfully suggest that any election / choice of DG leaders be deferred</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I suspect that the group's make up will change between now and September as people come back from holidays etc and become aware of the group's existence</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Michele</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">--<br>Mr Michele Neylon<br>Blacknight Solutions<br>Hosting, Colocation& Domains<br><a href="http://www.blacknight.co/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">http://www.blacknight.co/</span></a><br><a href="http://blog.blacknight.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">http://blog.blacknight.com/</span></a><br><a href="http://www.technology.ie/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">http://www.technology.ie</span></a><br>Intl. <a href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%C2%A0%209183072" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">+353 (0) 59 9183072</span></a><br>Direct Dial: <a href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">+353 (0)59 9183090</span></a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mneylon" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">http://twitter.com/mneylon</span></a><br>-------------------------------<br>Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<br>Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</span></a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rubens Kuhl<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Agenda for First Meeting of the Discussion Group for New gTLD Subsequent Rounds</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">be of an introductory nature. The proposed agenda is:</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Roll Call / Statements of Interest</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Suggestion: only reading SoI for people that do not have GNSO SOIs (or have updates to), to shorten up this part. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Applicability of ICANN principles of transparency and openness</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Items for initial review - GNSO Resolution forming this group, GNSO Working Group Guidelines, GNSO Policy Development Process (to serve as a reference point for the DG)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Discussion of Work Plan – Review of Interim Chair's Draft Work Plan and discussion of alternatives and tools for completing work</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Election of DG Leaders – The DG may elect to have co-chairs or vice-chairs. Once selected, the DG Chair(s) will need to be confirmed by the GNSO Council.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">May I suggest that no attempt to see vice-chairs as representation of that constituency in the group ? It's so much simpler to have 2 (either chair/vice-chair, co-chair/co-chair, chair/alternate chair) leaders instead of a complex structure... since *-chairs only have coordination but no definition role, it's of no use to see too much into the roles. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Rubens<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-dg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">Gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</span></a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-dg" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-dg</span></a><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;">Please NOTE: This electronic message, including any attachments, may include privileged, confidential and/or inside information owned by Rightside Group, Ltd. 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