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Rubens,<br>
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First, your suggestion that I offered Informed Consent as a
solution, and thus jumped the gun, is correct. Should an examination
of the city's experiences indicate some negative occurrences, then
Informed Consent might be one approach to consider moving forward.
But we're clearly not there yet.<br>
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Our recent FOIL request sought to make some basic data available
that would help illuminate the experiences the city is having with
its TLD. Our recent Freedom of Information Law request seeks to
enable New Yorkers to better assess the experiences from the TLD's
development. If we don't know what's going on how can the Discussion
Group and GNSO adequately assess "experiences gained."<br>
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We are seeking WHOIS data (anonymized as necessary) that will help
us understand the state of the name distribution process. For
example, are names being distributed equitably? Are all social,
economic, and geographic clusters acquiring names? If an analysis
reveals inequities, should efforts be undertaken to change the
current trend? If so, what engagement and education programs might
bend the curve? Etc.<br>
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If fundamental data about allocations, complaints, or other aspects
of the TLD's operation are unavailable, a conscientious assessment
by the GNSO of the city's experiences with its TLD is impossible.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2015 4:10 AM, Rubens Kuhl
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<div bgcolor="#CCCCCC" text="#000000" class=""> On August
21, 2014 I submitted to the discussion group a comment "<span
id="title-text" class="">Considering Informed Consent
for City-TLD Applicants</span>" - <a
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than "non-objection" be sought for future city-TLD
applicants. The suggestion was that we craft an "informed
consent" standard for cities seeking a TLD, and that we
draw upon other sectors such as medical and resource
management in developing that standard. <br class="">
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In the 26 May report I don't find language adequately
representing the suggestion. The only entry that might
possibly relate is in Group 1 under "Community
engagement." This reader was unclear if the community
referenced there was the ICANN or applying community
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Actually, no suggestions of what to do were meant to be present
at the report, so the question is whether the issue (not the
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<p class="">The mayor's statement was released during a
period in which our organization was requesting
information about the identity of those who have
purchased .nyc names. We are seeking to identify some
metrics for assessing the impact .nyc is having on our
city. Our request for anonymized registrant data was
refused. And last week we were forced to file a request
for registrant information using the state's Freedom of
Information Law (FOIL).<br class="">
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The core of what you asked is published by .nyc due to ICANN
contractual requirements: the zone file describing each name
that is registered and DNS servers that in turn point to content
for each domain. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://czds.icann.org/" class="">https://czds.icann.org/</a> is
the entry point for this information. </div>
<div class="">(and in case of .nyc, there is also the possibility
of a zone walk-through but CZDS is simpler)</div>
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<p class="">It's my belief that, had there been a
requirement for informed consent, the city's
stakeholders would have participated in developing the
application for the .nyc TLD. And from that
participation clear metrics for its success would have
emerged, and the mayor could have spoken about the
success of the TLD using them. <br class="">
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<div class="">Since .nyc applicant, and now registry, is the city
itself (even if under an outsourcing contract), it seems that
they had more than just informed consent, they had full
authority. The issue you described is that you believe that no
matter the standard is a non-objection or an informed consent,
that it must come not only from the executive branch but from a
multistakeholder representation of the geographic region. Just
raising the threshold to informed consent wouldn't be enough to
achieve what you are suggesting. </div>
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