<div dir="ltr">+1  <span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6666669845581px"> I think there may be some value in the DG including in the Charter a review of the geographic names restrictions in the AGB.  Thanks Donna for raising the issue.</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Mike Rodenbaugh</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">RODENBAUGH LAW</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">tel/fax:  +1.415.738.8087</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">http://rodenbaugh.com</a> </div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Donna Austin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@ariservices.com" target="_blank">Donna.Austin@ariservices.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Hi Lars<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Thank you, I am aware of the work Heather and the CCWG are undertaking, but I wasn’t sure if there was overlap into the work of this
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">My concern is that the CCWG is restricting it’s considerations to country and territory names at the top level and the AGB had other
 requirements, for example relating to capital cities and continents. Therefore I think there may be some value in the DG including in the Charter a review of the geographic names or something along those lines.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donna Austin; Steve Chan; <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Additional item to charter: application by previous applicant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thank you for your note. There is currently a Cross Community Working Group on the Use of Country and Territory Names as Top-Level Domains (see
<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48346463" target="_blank">here</a>) working on at least part of this issue. You might recall that Heather provided an update to the GNSO Council as the Group’s co-Chair during the last Council call (transcript
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-21may15-en.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>). To assure you, and others, the Group is very much aware of the GAC’s work and is trying to coordinate their respective  efforts to avoid a situation where the GAC’s potential
 future advise on geographic names conflicts with anything the CWG is producing. Please note that the CWG is meeting bi-weekly and the number of GNSO members is not as prominent as it could be  - as also pointed out by Heather. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 later today; any feedback you – and others – can provide will be most welcome in the CWG’s discussions. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:49<br>
<b>To: </b>Steve Chan &lt;<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" target="_blank">steve.chan@icann.org</a>&gt;, &quot;&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a>&gt;&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Additional item to charter: application by previous applicant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Steve, All</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I have another question—sorry</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">As we all know the GAC has a working group on Geographic Names, which seems to be intent on expanding the definition to include potentially thousands of strings.
 The AGB had a moratorium on the ability to apply for country/territory names at the top level in the first round.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Is it the intention of the DG that this be picked up as part of the next round PDP, or perhaps dealt with as a distinct and separate issue elsewhere.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Apologies if this has been covered previously and I missed it.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Chan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 1 June 2015 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-dg] Additional item to charter: application by previous applicant</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Incorporated the suggestion from Donna Austin from 27 May</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Made the change suggested by Philip Sheppard and the BRG, although I made it far more general because as Philip noted, the set of circumstances described would not be limited to just .brands.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Regarding the comments from Thomas Lowenhaupt, I did not make a change in the charter, but instead made a change in the matrix, where I included a link to Thomas’ Wiki post about Informed Consent,
 so that it can be considered in full by a possible WG.</span><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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 If there are any disagreements with how the items have been captured, do of course let me know and I’ll be happy to update.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&quot;<a href="mailto:philip@brandregistrygroup.org" target="_blank">philip@brandregistrygroup.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:philip@brandregistrygroup.org" target="_blank">philip@brandregistrygroup.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, June 1, 2015 at 3:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-dg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-newgtld-dg] Additional item to charter: application by previous applicant</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">a BRG member has made this suggestion which I think could be wider than just .brands. Could you agree to add it to the Charter maybe in Section II, Group 1, around
 the bullet &quot;<i>Different TLD Types</i>? Feel free to turn the text into the style of the Charter.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Application by a previous applicant</span></b><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 be shortened, reduced of even omitted (e.g., financial, technical, administrative, etc.) in case such RO is duly fulfilling its current RA and running its (.brand) gTLD. It seems some time could be saved during the application process if ICANN validates most
 of the the RO information.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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