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style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Adobe Connect Recording: </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p12my6zhdo8/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=270a392f7eacd741b08abf3f2654f84519ad6e8cf34f5cf5e6c5e8497ddb0bc4"><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>https://participate.icann.org/p12my6zhdo8/</span></b></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p 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</span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt1"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:purple;background:white'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt1</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Agenda wiki page: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/_7DRAw"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>https://community.icann.org/x/_7DRAw</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Terri<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>25 April<span style='color:black'> 2017</span></span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 1 - Overall Process/Support/Outreach Issue call on Tuesday, 25 April 2017 at 3:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5F7DRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=pExutxgVaNeM6YYGfUVwmsTIP6n2IHVdhdScfVJ8ClA&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5F7DRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=pExutxgVaNeM6YYGfUVwmsTIP6n2IHVdhdScfVJ8ClA&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:i am on adobe and don't hear<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:I am on Adobe and I can hear<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Checking audio, can I be heard at this time?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:I can't hear you Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:If having audio issue on adobe , try logging in using a different browser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:or ping me with your telephone number and I can dial out to you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:I can hear Terri now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:I can hear as well and I'm on phone. (Jeff is on AC)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Avri has left the building<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:@Avri, can you hear me at this time?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:nope and tried to call in, but that did not work either<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:even rebooted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:I will send you a private chat<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:same here. I'd probably need some tie to review it, especially not at this hour. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:on point 2 - is that implying that someone other than the front end registry aka applicant should bear the costs? I don't thnk you are suggesting technical service providers actually pay for it are you?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Can we post the link<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:And make suggestions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:Available here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1nWljRzRgDQgmSlSxyf7G6f2Dv7XDoD01D30KfWhoHNw_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=f7HazjgaVR1hFdjtZicPZVrIU_yxsvmGQ1KJfetsRA4&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1nWljRzRgDQgmSlSxyf7G6f2Dv7XDoD01D30KfWhoHNw_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=jZkO63PoGHEjIFn6twujY6w4nJ6RxaHeiFDpCX7uejQ&s=f7HazjgaVR1hFdjtZicPZVrIU_yxsvmGQ1KJfetsRA4&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:If there are specific questions, please ask....but yes, this is a starting poin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:point<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Donna Austin, Neustar:appreciate that Sara, and I hope my comments aren't being taken as being critical, just some general observations at this point.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:That last bullet is a long way of saying it is a voluntary program :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:the costs point is something that going to need more discussion. I don't think this group should dictate that. if two parties want o negotiate it or an RSP wants to offer that, that's a differentiator in the marketplace. buts it's not the role of this group to dictate that. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:that probably warrants to clarification to it <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:I think that is right Donna. Its not to govern the relationship between the RSP and RO, but rather who pays for the cost of technical evaluation if there is a preapproval process<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Agree- All, please make suggestions in the google Doc. Lets get the wording to a point where it is clear and we can all agree<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:will do. I'm better at 11am as opposed to 11pm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Funny Jim...i am better at 11 pm :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan 2:Sorry, missed those. Reloaded with the two points Jeff is discussing now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:I'll elaborate more in google docs on the last point but the fact that icann has had instances of a few operators failing SLAs and having to coach them into compliance makes it difficult to automatically grandfather them. in<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew:Agree with Donna. Also subject to any changes in technical requirements for operating as RSP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Donna Austin, Neustar:@Jim, we really need ICANN to provide that information before we go down that track.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew:So we need to address scalability, Jeff?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:that could be one item<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:again it is for discussion<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:I find the issue of granfathering somewhat problematic. i think there are possibly too many conditions that may vary. i do not see the harm of everyone starting afresh.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew:@Donna: Yes, agree with your response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Thanks Donna - I dont think your comments and mine are inconsistent. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):had to drop audio to get into my next ICANN call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Donna Austin, Neustar:@ Avri, as I see it and how i read this document, we are really only discussing a pre-approval process and if that doesn't change substantively from what was undertaken in 2012 i don't see why 2012 RSPs could not be grandfathered in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Perhaps the grandfathering applies to what is the same with perhaps some lesser amount of evaluation on only those new requirements (if any)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sigh 6,5 has of these today from 0300 2 oh of course it's a National public holiday so I shouldn't complain should I<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Donna Austin, Neustar:No Cheryl, you should be off playing two-up and leaving the phone at home<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:wee are trng to eliminate multipel testings, i do not see the requiremnt to eliminate all testing for some.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):poor audio for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):improved<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:let me know if audio goes to poor again<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):off again a bit <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:did the community determine the pricing in the previous rounds or was that dictated by ICANN?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:@Jim - Dictated by ICANN<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:I reported Avri's AC audio issue earlier. I will add additional poor audio quality to the ticket<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Based on some vague formulas and SWAGs on expected volumes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:that's what I thought. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Applicant support programs need to get funding from somewhere<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:(if we have them)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed they do!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and we should IMO<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:Jeff the cost of those should be calcualted into the total cost.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:WE do need to revisit that report. If as people believe there will be 25000 applications, then under the current rates, it would take 25 years to complete delegating those TLDs<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:So we need to push those boudaries of that recommendation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Prendergast:25 years....wow<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:That report found no issues with the current rate of delegations and said it could handle much more<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:next call: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 1 - Overall Process/Support/Outreach Issue will take place on Tuesday, 16 May 2017 at 15:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:so, that is the key part we (WT 4) may need to discuss<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Donna Austin, Neustar:@Jeff, do you know who signs off on that report, ie, is it the Board?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye for now then lots more to divvying all this from today <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):discuss<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Edmon:bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Not sure as it was just outsourced<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>