[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt2] Recording, attendance & AC Chat from New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team ­ Track 2 ­ Legal/Regulatory Issues call on Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:00 UTC

Julie Bisland julie.bisland at icann.org
Wed Nov 22 04:07:34 UTC 2017


Dear All,



Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email. The AC recording and AC Chat are listed below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 2 – Legal/Regulatory Issues held on Tuesday, 21 November 2017 at 21:00 UTC.



Adobe Connect recording (audio and visual):    https://participate.icann.org/p1asgkg7vzf/<https://participate.icann.org/p1asgkg7vzf/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=c5dc117acd7d7b4d65d028e4b8b4cd2806a0dcdefbc08737427d20d0f97a6a85>



The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar



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Agenda Wiki page:  https://community.icann.org/x/pJlEB



Thank you.

Kind regards,



Julie



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Adobe Connect chat transcript for 21 November 2017

  Julie Bisland:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 2 – Legal/Regulatory Issues call on Tuesday, 21 November 2017 at 21:00 UTC

  Julie Bisland:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_pJlEB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=pDU5vCQ5adxnU952kZD0pQ07rYmtx2GVJNl7Fa06tGI&e=

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):hi all

  Sara Bockey:WT1 only had 4 people outside subpro and staff last night

  Emily Barabas 2:Correct, slides are unsynced

  Phil Buckingham:hi everyone  , I  hope Abu Dhabi was productive

  Wafa Dahmani:hi all

  Sophia Feng:Hi All

  Kurt Pritz:Thank you Sophia - this is great

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):glad to have you with this WT Sophia, looking forward to working with you

  Emily Barabas 2:Here is the link to Sophia's SOI: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Shuo-2BFeng-2BSOI&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=k_7CthK1L3FTxJV83Mybl0uiBLdZ79irpGp8V7IRqRA&e=

  Sophia Feng:Thank you all, for no objections:) feel free to let me know if you have any questions

  Susan Payne:sorry, am I missing something, where is the schedule?

  Emily Barabas 2:Slide 4

  Susan Payne:thanks Emily

  Phil Buckingham:Sophia , congrats on your appointment. Feel free to contact me (phil at dotadvice.co.uk<mailto:phil at dotadvice.co.uk>)  in the next week . I am more than happy to help you step into the role  to coordinate with Michael .

  Sophia Feng:Thank you Phil, sure will do, a lot to learn and get up to speed, thank you

  Jeff Neuman:Michael - lets move onto the substance :)

  Kathy Kleiman:What about audit reports?

  Kathy Kleiman:GDD??

  Kathy Kleiman:How would we get a report from GDD on its audit reports?

  Kathy Kleiman:This is the most systematic review of compliance, right?

  Kathy Kleiman:Tx!

  Trang Nguyen:The link to teh 2017 registry audit report is here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_contractual-2Dcompliance-2Dra-2Daudit-2Dreport-2D2017-2D11sep17-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=Tz9KyRzG3x8fGg6BYHfGyJhChs3mh3gxJaaHZrjrwdo&e=

  Jeff Neuman:Kathy, compliance CCME back and said there were no issues with VI that they have found

  Jeff Neuman:typo: came back

  Trang Nguyen:Previous years' reports, including registrar audit reports are here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_compliance-2Dreports-2D2017&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=WJ2GI6D_yarGrAcx-Takqsz_f0MvbpilyWa00SMGejI&e=

  Jeff Neuman:But all they do with respect to this is get a self-certification.  I do not believe they have done anything more than that

  Kathy Kleiman:These audit reports don't appear to address VI

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):Kathy do you believe or are aware of any significant disadvantage or dissatisfactions arising from Viruses operations (to date)?

  Kathy Kleiman:Great, tx!

  Kathy Kleiman:I'll look up the Registry Agreements too

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):eight auto correct Viruses should read VI

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):and eight should read ergh

  Emily Barabas 2:The responses from ICANN compliance can be found on this wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_NGSPP_4.3.5-2BRegistrar-2BNon-2DDiscrimination&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=Z8ZAj9yt8W9AH4EbZ7bi0JgZhU3mRCXsq8u7BMHKBJQ&e=

  Emily Barabas 2:(see bottom of page)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):thx Emily

  Trang Nguyen:I believe this is the link to the Compliance reponse that Michael was referencing: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_58735941_New-2520gTLD-2520Subsequent-2520Procedures-2520Request-2520for-2520Data.docx-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1502818926000-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=6PVMpLUtJ0-2-BY2ptrnFlovtKzisGvpDxi_KkpNu6M&e=

  Phil Buckingham:i thnk we need to differentiate between VI for open TLDs and closed/ brand  TLDs  . I dont know of a closed Registry having its own VI  registrar yet .

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):slide 10

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):11 now

  Emily Barabas 2:Full text of CC2 responses is available here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1tcWZt1bdoYH7vJl2Yi9G0jah7QzyhqU99tXnl3qV0rc_edit-3Fusp-3Ddrive-5Fweb&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=QiF-05YzARosRvTYd84AB_UYInlydmFcjNmBM5XgySw&m=cYyH3yjGyFumm4_gfwTJmDGbqJQt0MgxCl2Vtp3Wfcs&s=AJq_m3efI7Uf4x7IpzsZML94hkKot8yjOlI2svwi0yo&e=

  Jeff Neuman:I see this for non-trademarked products

  Susan Payne:Funnily I think they mean in the trademark sense, but where they don't qualify for spec 13

  Sophia Feng:Now in Slide13

  Phil Buckingham:Agreed Jeff . .

  Jeff Neuman:Sorry driving through my favorite third world sate in the US...New Jersey :)

  Jeff Neuman:One of the things I think we should do on the last question is talk to Donuts, Google, Afilias, and other vertically integrated registries and registrars

  Susan Payne:sorry, have to drop off

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):makes sense Jeff

  Jeff Neuman:Once we get the list of the vertically integrated entities, we can talk to them

  Gg Levine (NABP):Maybe allow it for registries that are low-volume?

  Jeff Neuman:Gg - for communities and restricted TLDs - that has been discussed as well

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO - PDP Co-Chair):thanks everyone 👋 bye for now then...

  Julie Bisland:next call: Thursday, 07 December 2017 at 03:00 UTC

  Phil Buckingham:Agreed Sophia , a closed brand TLD doesnt  NEED  a registrar , whether integrated or not .

  Sophia Feng:Thank you all, great call

  Phil Buckingham:thanks


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