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<p>Hi All, <br>
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<p>I'm a new member to this list, but there is a lot of material
about the harms and concerns behind Closed Generics. In
preparation for the meeting later today, I'll post some of it. I'm
copying Michele Neylon, who was a leader in sharing concerns about
Closed Generics with the ICANN Community in 2013.</p>
<p>I don't think there is the time to prepare a robust debate for
today, but hopefully at your next meeting, you might invite some
of the names (people & their organizations) that you see in
these materials into the discussion. There are also Community
Objections on this issue that you might want to evaluate. <br>
</p>
<p>Best regards, Kathy (Kleiman)</p>
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<pre><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-closed-generic-05feb13/msg00174.html">https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-closed-generic-05feb13/msg00174.html</a>
Dear Sir / Madam
I am submitting these comments on behalf of Blacknight, Ireland's only ICANN
accredited registrar.
They do not reflect the formal views of any stakeholder group, but those of our
company.
We are on the record with respect to our views on this issue, having spoken
during the public forum at ICANN Toronto
(<a rel="nofollow" href="http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34215">http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34215</a>) and having sent several letters to
ICANN's board, which were co-signed by a broad cross-section of the ICANN
Community:
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence/neylon-et-al-to-chehade-et-al-24sep12-en.pdf">http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence/neylon-et-al-to-chehade-et-al-24sep12-en.pdf</a>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence/neylon-et-al-to-chalaby-et-al-22jan13-en.pdf">http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence/neylon-et-al-to-chalaby-et-al-22jan13-en.pdf</a>
Rather than rehash our previous arguments I would prefer to simply state that
they are unchanged.
I've summarised some of the issues we see with them here:
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.internetnews.me/2013/02/23/5-reasons-why-closed-generic-new-gtlds-should-be-opposed/">http://www.internetnews.me/2013/02/23/5-reasons-why-closed-generic-new-gtlds-should-be-opposed/</a>
It is also worth noting that our views are shared by some very large brands who
have taken the time to submit very rational comments on this topic.
But more importantly both consumer and trade organisations representing large
numbers of internet users and businesses have too.
Regards
Michele
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions ♞
Hosting & Domains
ICANN Accredited Registrar
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/2017 4:45 AM, Michael Flemming
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAAE6pKFb3emd2rTgvU0p0ZzpXNkORbTgqbuaLzSeZVLKp4c99w@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Dear All,
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<div>Please find the material that we will be referring to in
order to address potential harms of Closed Generics.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michael Flemming</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_extra">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:28 PM,
Michael Flemming <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:flemming@brightsconsulting.com"
target="_blank">flemming@brightsconsulting.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Dear All,</span>
<div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">This week on 13 April
2017 at 21 UTC we will be once again discussing
Closed Generics. As of our last meeting, we went
through the Pros and Cons of Closed Generics by
looking at the comments made in the Public Comments.
We have not reached a consensus on anything at this
point, however, we have not had a lot of input for
the Cons and potential harm of Closed Generics at
the current time. This week we will try to
distinguish what potential harm exists if Closed
Generics were allowed by analyzing the Public
Comments even further. I welcome anyone who would
like to assist in this discussion and analysis by
joining us this week. Below is the <span
class="m_-8575844256750814590m_3745383161031865879gmail-il">agenda</span>.</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">
<ol>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><i>Welcome<br>
<br>
</i></li>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><i>SOI<br>
<br>
</i></li>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><i>Closed Generics</i><br>
<br>
</li>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><i>AOB</i></li>
</ol>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I look forward to speaking with everyone and
having an exciting conversation!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michael Flemming</div>
</div>
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