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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Please find the attendance and audio recording of the call attached to this email and the Adobe Connect recording (visual and audio) and AC Chat below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 3 – String Contention, Objections & Disputes held on Tuesday, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>07 February 2017 <span style='color:black'>at </span>15<span style='color:black'>:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Adobe Connect recording: </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p91ejjbni68/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=3301ff0f1fff3dfc78bdba634380b2dc21423ab6ed922f1b623118fc8ae11f01"><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>https://participate.icann.org/p91ejjbni68/</span></b></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The recordings of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Mailing list archives: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt3"><span style='color:#3B73AF;background:white'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt3</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Agenda <span style='color:black'>Wiki page: </span><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/uLPDAw">https://community.icann.org/x/uLPDAw</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>07 February 2017</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> </span> <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 3 – String Contention, Objections & Disputes on Tuesday, 07 February 2017 at 15:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_uLPDAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=RRXrg6_bu9nsCACp33nKxezsGQZlgIzdkNXQJsZ1GI4&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_uLPDAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=RRXrg6_bu9nsCACp33nKxezsGQZlgIzdkNXQJsZ1GI4&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Gg Levine (NABP):I apologise in advance; I need to drop off at 9:30 for another call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:thank you for this information Gg<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul McGrady:Good morning, afternoon, evening!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:nothing to add<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Steve will be making breakfast for us<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:they don't provide coffee any more do they?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Barabas:CC2 Google Doc: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1iZBCVEAJPBYEDg7jLsMHKkNczR-5Fb6-2DjH2Wl5eVH-2DWWM_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=IEPU33oP5L7u5B3ZehThtBFP49V_7LnUPkYSivyKops&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1iZBCVEAJPBYEDg7jLsMHKkNczR-5Fb6-2DjH2Wl5eVH-2DWWM_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=IEPU33oP5L7u5B3ZehThtBFP49V_7LnUPkYSivyKops&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:There are no Freedom of Expression questions yet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul McGrady:@Jeff - correct.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul McGrady:I was confused in thinking that 3.3 modified 3.2, buut it appears that they are seperate entirely.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:Agree -- walk through it all and then we shoot at it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Barabas:The document is unsynced -- everyone can scroll for themselves<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Karen Day:thanks, Emily<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Paul - what other harms other than Trademark Infringement (or likely infringement) would you recommend this policy address? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Sorry, this objection address?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Jeff, note that LRO is currently the vehicle for IGO objections as well... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Would you recommend the doctrine of foreign equivalents apply to only trademarks or would yo propose that they apply to registry operators of existing gTLDs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Even though it was not used in 2012. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:what % of english dictionary terms have a trademark in any jurisdiction in the world?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:disagree with that too<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:seems to require knowing intent, which is something i thought we said could not be known (personal view)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__domainnamewire.com_2014_02_10_how-2Dcommon-2Dwords-2Dlike-2Dpizza-2Dmoney-2Dand-2Dshopping-2Dended-2Dup-2Din-2Dthe-2Dtrademark-2Dclearinghouse-2Dfor-2Dnew-2Dtlds_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=DTdvSU4Hvrd8ngfU0GvT_-P9m3zmMGnSSvs8YvAAqeU&e= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:(With the caveat disclaimer that LRO criteria is not the same as TMCH criteria)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:All - I need to drop, but will listen to the rest of the call later.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):The policy recommendation states: Strings must not infringe the existing legal rights of others .. . . Are you proposing that the policy recommendation be revised to replace "infringe" with "abuse"? If not, what is the rationale for the disconnect between the policy recommendations and the change to the LRO standing that you've proposed?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Real life problem, evidenced by Merck x Merck: if marks have jurisdiction boundaries, does any restriction require geolocation-based blocking, since the Internet is global in nature ? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> avri doria:what does abuse mean? seems rather open.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Kristina, I believe the timing here is exactly to see whether policy recommendation changes are needed. It seems this would be a required policy change to support for an implementation such as Paul is proposing. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:I need to drop in a few min too -- have LOTS of concerns with this proposal as well <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:we should look at all the LROs from the 2012 round and test any proposed changes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:Paul, what kinds of cases are you trying to get at with the proposal? Think the proposal is way too overbroad.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:COuld I please be unmuted (I can't seem to do it myself)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:@Alan, done, I believe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):My recollection (although going back to 2007-08) is that the GNSO intended to limit the LRO to trademark infringement, but I think it's something that needs to be reviewed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Paul, isn't what you suggested covered by UDRP ? For instance, if I register chairing.coach, I'm not trying to use to something to be used with Leather goods... while if someone registers leather.coach or bag.coach, it's likely to be infringing but could be took down by UDRP. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:(UDRP and URS, in fact)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:citing a second level name as evidence of infringement on a top level name is not useful -- we have the UDRP and URS to deal with 2nd level names<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rubens Kuhl:Have to drop now. Will hear the remaining of the call later. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett:if we can't demonstrate a problem, then why are we looking for a solution?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Barabas:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_Uz2AAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=l1LwM8oTtzxX4waejW_qHSwp1LCSLHiU9Jca56Ctcm8&s=7MXUOVWoGSLcida6YkgaK0k4E2I8GVXvWHgBJRklEEQ&e= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Have to drop for the RA Amendments webinar. Thanks, all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 3 – String Contention, Objections & Disputes will take place on Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 20:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Robin Gross:Thanks Karen and all, bye!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>