[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Registry Services straw-person

Fri Sep 1 04:07:18 UTC 2017

Anne,

I would like to apologize if I have in any way created a hostile environment for anyone in any work track or in the Working Group.  I will try to be more cognizant of my actions in the future.  It certainly was not my intent to stifle ideas coming forward.  Just the opposite was intended when I asked that you submit a proposal that achieved the goals of efficiency, expediency, but also encouraged innovation.

I view part of my job as overall co-chair to make sure all viewpoints are expressed and then to get Working Group members to try to think outside of the box, put themselves in the shoes of the other sides and try to come up with a compromise solution that can attempt to satisfy all points (or as many as possible).

You have presented a proposal and we absolutely need to make sure that proposal is considered.  Rubens has presented his strawperson, you have presented yours.  Is there a way to merge the two?  There may be other proposals out there and I strongly encourage those to come forward.

On the issue of whether applicants that propose new services should pay to have these new services reviewed, this is a complex issues. On the one hand, as you state, it may be a disincentive to propose new innovative services.  On the other hand, reviewing new services does come with a cost for evaluation.  New services may require a different skill set of reviewers that reviewing the existing services.  Reviewing new services may require a more thorough security analysis, competition analysis, etc. than existing services (which are already reviewed and proven).    So not charging those applicants that propose new services for the evaluation of those new services results in those that do not propose new types of registry services subsidizing those that do.  From a policy perspective, that may be ok, but it is a policy decision we should all make.

FYI, the existing Registry Agreements do require registries to pay the costs of proposing new registry services if a Technical Panel has to be called in to review the new services.  I believe there may be a cap of $50,000, but I could be confusing that with the 2012 Round costs.

Thanks for keeping the discussion going and I hope you do feel free expressing your ideas/proposals going forward.  If not, please bring that to my attention (or to Avri’s attention if you are more comfortable with that).  I am trying my best to be neutral and encourage discussion, but I am not infallible.

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Registry Services straw-person

And please don’t tell me I am free to file a complaint.  That is not the answer.    There were two people in chat who supported the notion of two tracks and you want to ignore that because it is not your solution.  This is not the proper role for a co-chair.

You should be raising the different proposals and asking for full discussion of them.  Jeff specifically asked me for a proposal.  I had to force you to take my comment to communicate that proposal.  Then two other people supported it.

I have never before experienced such a biased working group environment.
Anne

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Registry Services straw-person

Frankly, most people aren’t expressing opinions at this time on the list or on the call.   I am very surprised as I think the role of a Co-Chair (and the Sub Pro Chairs) is to facilitate discussion.  I don’t see that happening here.  The environment from you and from Jeff is hostile.

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From: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk at nic.br]
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Registry Services straw-person

On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>> wrote:

Rubens,
I don’ t have an objection to establishing 2 tracks – one for established services evaluation and one for new proposed services evaluation.

You don't, but most people do, as both the call and the mailing list discussion have shown.

I do object to charging more for an application that proposes new services – it’s against the goal of innovation and creativity.

Something that can be raised for applicant support. It's a worthy cause, and lots of jurisdiction give tax breaks to R&D, innovation, entrepreneurship ... it's just out of scope for WT4.

 I do object to dealing with proposals for new services in the contracting phase.  It is not transparent to the community.

Not including the community in registry services reviews is how current GNSO policy is. This WG is not chartered to review it.

Rubens

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