[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Registry Services straw-person

[Cheryl Langdon-Orr]

OK ...  So I take a break away from connectivity to deal with other Non
ICANN (yes they exist!) matters  after our earlier WT call, and so much has
happened on the list!

Clearly (well in my view at least ;-) we still have plenty to discuss
regarding the Registry Services question, and as Jeff mentioned in his
earlier email =>  "...we absolutely need to make sure that [all]
proposal[s] is [/are] considered. ....   ..... ..... There may be other
proposals out there and I strongly encourage those to come forward."

So in keeping with that spirit of exploration let's keep on discussing and
proposing options on this, and over the next day or two we will put
together some sort of matrix from our meetings and these list discussions
to ensure we capture as much as possible both in opinions, options and
variable support for the alternatives with a view to then fully discussing
matters further at our next or the following meeting.

Thank you all for your valuable contributions so far mind we hope that more
WT members doing so over the coming week or so.


*Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ...  *(CLO)

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On 1 September 2017 at 14:59, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> wrote:

>
> You have presented a proposal and we absolutely need to make sure that
> proposal is considered.  Rubens has presented his strawperson, you have
> presented yours.  Is there a way to merge the two?  There may be other
> proposals out there and I strongly encourage those to come forward.
>
>
> Actually, I presented a first straw person in the meeting before this one,
> and it was to strike Q23 altogether... that was the only one that only come
> out that I could claim copyright to. The one presented at the start of the
> call was already modified due to WT members input, Anne included, and the
> one I sent after call was based on what was discussed in the call... so it
> is already at the 3rd generation with many thumbprints, and there is no
> reason not to change further. It's not final until it is sent to Council
> labeled "final report".
>
>
>  On the issue of whether applicants that propose new services should pay
> to have these new services reviewed, this is a complex issues. On the one
> hand, as you state, it may be a disincentive to propose new innovative
> services.  On the other hand, reviewing new services does come with a cost
> for evaluation.  New services may require a different skill set of
> reviewers that reviewing the existing services.  Reviewing new services may
> require a more thorough security analysis, competition analysis, etc. than
> existing services (which are already reviewed and proven).    So not
> charging those applicants that propose new services for the evaluation of
> those new services results in those that do not propose new types of
> registry services subsidizing those that do.  From a policy perspective,
> that may be ok, but it is a policy decision we should all make.
>
>
> I'm all for the SubPro WG making this decision, but I'm unsure that it
> belongs to WT4, since application fees looks more like WT1 to me.
>
>
> FYI, the existing Registry Agreements do require registries to pay the
> costs of proposing new registry services if a Technical Panel has to be
> called in to review the new services.  I believe there may be a cap of
> $50,000, but I could be confusing that with the 2012 Round costs.
>
>
> That applied to 2012, and even there might not be a real cap but only an
> indication of value, since some fees charged during the process differed
> from the guidebook. On RSTEPs that occurred after the new gTLD program,
> there was only one I'm aware of, PIR's .ong/.ngo bundling, which cost was
> much higher than USD 50k.
>
> Thanks for keeping the discussion going and I hope you do feel free
> expressing your ideas/proposals going forward.  If not, please bring that
> to my attention (or to Avri’s attention if you are more comfortable with
> that).  I am trying my best to be neutral and encourage discussion, but I
> am not infallible.
>
>
>
> Likewise, WT4 do have one co-chair that was not mentioned as discouraging
> discussion, Cheryl, if someone feels more comfortable raising an issue.
>
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
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