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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">for 14 December 2016</span></u></b></p>
<div>Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations call on Wednesday, 14 December 2016 at 20:00 UTC.</div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_K6HDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=Z7ZdJdfTNTbKBimj7GiYirpbRPS0Qh0PHnnZC6_Er4Y&s=UqSuRYcLDSXb4JISXkuzPZUcXhscxT-rdg7qvYNpilU&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_K6HDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=Z7ZdJdfTNTbKBimj7GiYirpbRPS0Qh0PHnnZC6_Er4Y&s=UqSuRYcLDSXb4JISXkuzPZUcXhscxT-rdg7qvYNpilU&e=</a></div>
<div> Julie Hedlund:That sounds fine -- thanks!</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:rubens - you are very faint . Could you speak up </div>
<div> avri doria:idoegraphic cs. non ideographic</div>
<div> avri doria:?</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:me too - re headphones . but still faint </div>
<div> avri doria:might want to consider adding ", if any" at the end of the stmt.</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):good point Avri </div>
<div> avri doria:i think we need two reading, both on calls to close a consensus call.</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes the rationale is important on this proposed recommendation </div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:this is a catch 22 , since the technical costs/ so contractual relationship with the backend provider will need be incurred and the costs put in the financial model for evaluation .</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Avri</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:no audio </div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:thanks Cheryl </div>
<div> avri doria:wee have to learn to speak again on AC. hard to do i know, i almost forgot how.</div>
<div> Steve Chan:@Phil, we are happy to provide a dial out if you'd care to join!</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:point taken , Avri </div>
<div> Steve Chan:If I recall, part of why every application was considered indivudually overall was related to principles of fairness? Kurt would probably be able to fact check that statement.</div>
<div> Kurt Pritz:I have a bad connection. and did not hear the question</div>
<div> Kurt Pritz:can you repeat. ? or skip me?</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:Totally agree Kurt. and nobody knew who was going to apply , how many portfolio players would submit multiple applications using the same model </div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:Kurt, that was Steve question from the chat above. </div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):chat above from Steve</div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:the financial model was templated / standardised . It wont work for Round 2 . Each applicant's financial model needs to treat separately , evaluated , due diligence accordingly </div>
<div> Phil Buckingham:Agreed Alan . Alot more .</div>
<div> Steve Chan:@Rubens, I tried to note that the report acknowledges those challenges to some degree, but apparently i made that point ineffectively</div>
<div> Steve Chan:So not just about inefficiency...</div>
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<i><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">1. Hyderabad recap [slide 5 of the slide deck]<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Support for IDN 1-character was pictogram (Japanese or Korean), but opposition was not to Latin and Cyrillic, but use a more generic term.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Probably would be good to use generic terms for all of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- On support for IDN Variant TLDS -- Staff have had preliminary discussions with Sarmad Hussain on staff. He could provide background or a status update on the program.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">avri doria</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">: idoegraphic cs. non ideographic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">2. Consensus call 1: Technical capability to be assessed at contract signing time [slide 7 in the slide deck]<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Possible language: "Applicants must be able to demonstrate their technical capability to run a registry operation for the purpose that the applicant sets out, but will only be required to do so at contract-signing
time, after passing other criteria and/or approvals and prevailing in contention set(s), [if any]."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- If we do a consensus call over email should have the full story documented and presented to be taken into account.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Today's discussion is just a temperature taking, not a consensus call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Explaining why the change is being made is important. Good to lay out those conditions, which will help this make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- The financial model and testing the technical model are two different things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> good point Avri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">avri doria:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> i think we need two reading, both on calls to close a consensus call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> yes the rationale is important on this proposed recommendation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Phil Buckingham:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> this is a catch 22 , since the technical costs/ so contractual relationship with the backend provider will need be
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> thx Avri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">3. Discussion: Technical evaluation of applications to be performed as aggregated as feasible [slide 9 from the slide deck]<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- During the evaluation process there wasn't a realization of how the market would evolve with respect to backend providers .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- It was thought at the outset that individual applications needed to be evaluated in the absense of knowing that the backend marketplace would be established. Things didn't work out as predicted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Steve Chan:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> If I recall, part of why every application was considered indivudually overall was related to principles of fairness? Kurt
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Phil Buckingham:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> Totally agree Kurt. and nobody knew who was going to apply , how many portfolio players would submit multiple applications
using the same model <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Could have speculative applications. The financial models are going to vary even more if the price goes down.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">-- Look at the program implementation report that staff produced. There were inefficiencies from treating every application individually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Phil Buckingham:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> the financial model was templated / standardised . It wont work for Round 2 . Each applicant's financial model needs
to treat separately , evaluated , due diligence accordingly Agreed Alan . Alot more .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Steve Chan:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> @Rubens, I tried to note that the report acknowledges those challenges to some degree, but apparently i made that point ineffectively.
So not just about inefficiency...</span></p>
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