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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for 20</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> April 2017</span></u></b></p>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations call on Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 20:00 UTC</div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ILHRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=tZFx03EG2wqXgGPojBGZYEM1ZjJ0V_kIYLssX2akNkw&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ILHRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=tZFx03EG2wqXgGPojBGZYEM1ZjJ0V_kIYLssX2akNkw&e=</a></div>
<div> avri doria:not quite completely here yet.</div>
<div> Jennifer Chung:Thanks for the welcome Cheryl, glad to be on the call</div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:Sound is breaking up for me.... </div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:... is it a side effect of the AC changes ? </div>
<div> Steve Chan:@Rubens, I'm on a phone and it's good for me.</div>
<div> Steve Chan:Not sure if someone else might be able to comment on AC audio</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:Draft CCT-RT comments are here for review: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1LC-2D1-2DZ2auN2XTSJXyW34eWnGgNuuDInIOeJ1TcZ7z58_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=kDgj6T_7RlHHyf7NH91uqqMdNekaO3oEdtNNPL_tWWo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1LC-2D1-2DZ2auN2XTSJXyW34eWnGgNuuDInIOeJ1TcZ7z58_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=kDgj6T_7RlHHyf7NH91uqqMdNekaO3oEdtNNPL_tWWo&e=</a></div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:One reference video on this type of collision is this DEFCON presentation:</div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPbyDSvGasw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPbyDSvGasw</a></div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:Called "DEFCON 21 - DNS May Be Hazardous to Your Health - Robert Stucke"</div>
<div> Julie Hedlund:Information from ICANN on Name Collisions: Here’s the ICANN guidance on it: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_name-2Dcollision-2D2013-2D12-2D06-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=TD8l_epTT-6bD66DzEd2Ggro6iuox-RRGzE_gf_Pgwg&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_name-2Dcollision-2D2013-2D12-2D06-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=TD8l_epTT-6bD66DzEd2Ggro6iuox-RRGzE_gf_Pgwg&e=</a></div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:Emily/Julie: could we add the video above to the WT references ? </div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Julie does SSAC have yet to be published research on anything mentioned by Avri?</div>
<div> Julie Hedlund:@ Cheryl: There is SAC090. I'll get the link. I don't think there is anything further.</div>
<div> Steve Chan:SAC090: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_sac-2D090-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=Rp_Xkb2Brdysabz_TM6fsOrdRpv-gIOZcXQx0j1Enwg&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_sac-2D090-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=Rp_Xkb2Brdysabz_TM6fsOrdRpv-gIOZcXQx0j1Enwg&e=</a></div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):with us yes, but management must in my Biased view, be looked at and resolved </div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thus the importance of this and similar conversations </div>
<div> Julie Hedlund:Also, SAC062: SAC Advisory Concerning the Mitigation of Name Collision Risk (07 November 2013) at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_groups_ssac_documents_sac-2D062-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=4RB3JHFZwl50V_DURC8cVX5qKH2bu8YiGNS7ZgcbIp8&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_groups_ssac_documents_sac-2D062-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=HMKV4m7lb-eSm87c7n4WZFLjN4fTRrEYNAFipAV_Hcg&s=4RB3JHFZwl50V_DURC8cVX5qKH2bu8YiGNS7ZgcbIp8&e=</a></div>
<div> Julie Hedlund:SAC090 is SSAC Advisory on the Stability of the Domain Namespace (22 December 2016) </div>
<div> Alan Greenberg:Middle ground is almost certainly where we will end up.</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):personal view is that I suspect so Alan</div>
<div> avri doria:Alan, we often stick with status quo.</div>
<div> avri doria:mitigation is a good middle postion in many things</div>
<div> Alan Greenberg:Agreed. Just hazarding a guess.</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes indeed Avri </div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):or data yet unpublished </div>
<div> Alan Greenberg:Where can we find reports of those 37 occurrences?</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Time check 12 min in call ⌚ and Rubens and I have another call starting at top of the hour </div>
<div> Rubens Kuhl:CLO, I have to make the same call. </div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes I noted that my friend :-)</div>
<div> Alan Greenberg:I do understand what collisions mean. But examples of what the identified problems were is, in my opinion, important.\</div>
<div> Anne Aikman-Scalese (IPC):Thank you Cheryl and everyone. </div>
<div> Emily Barabas:Thursday 4 May at 3:00 UTC</div>
<div> avri doria:bye</div>
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