<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Em 5 de set de 2017, à(s) 17:52:000, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Rubens,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I have communicated separately with you off-list and to Leadership regarding your response. The following comments are circulated to the entire list:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="">A.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Please circulate the second Straw Proposal in addition to your own for comparison purposes. The second proposal is that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">the language of Question 23 remain the same</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as in the 2012 round which states that all new services to be offered MUST BE DESCRIBED (see below) with the following addition: “Applicant acknowledges that ICANN may establish two application evaluation tracks which will operate separately, one for applications which propose new registry services and one for applications which contain only the following pre-approved registry services: LIST PRE-APPROVED SERVICES HERE (TO BE DISCUSSED ON THE NEXT CALL).</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div>As I mentioned, I haven't received the second straw proposal. I believe Sarah, Kurt, and perhaps you could join them, were going to send one... as soon as one does, let's start circulating them both. Or three or more if it needs be... </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Note also the agenda for the next call was defined long before this discussion, and doesn't include registry services... if there is AOB time for it, it's sure a topic to add. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.75in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: 2.25pt;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="">B.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">You state that it is “out-of-scope” for Work Track 4 for us to discuss the policy issue of incurring additional fees for evaluation of additional new registry services. However, it is in fact your Straw Proposal that suggests such additional fees are appropriate. If this is policy work that is “out-of-scope” for Work Track 4, then the language of your Straw Proposal is itself “out-of-scope”.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The latest straw person actually removed any fees reference, exactly due to that. BTW, this was added due to a comment during the call that was one made not by me or Cheryl... but anyway, it's removed both due to opposition and to be out of scope. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="">C.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">You state that I cannot raise issues regarding effect on RPM policy because that is for the RPM PDP, not for Work Track 4. If you are advocating a policy change that affects RPM policy, it has to be raised and flagged, not buried as “out of scope” for Work Track 4.) How will the RPM PDP even KNOW that such an issue is being created by a proposed change in Question 23 if not discussed and brought to their attention?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><br class="">On the connection with RPM PDP WG, while there is not something currently foreseen at the work-track level, there is at the WG level, and every WT definition comes first to the WG, doesn't go into final report before that. From our charter:<br class="">"Second-Level<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Rights<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Protection<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Mechanisms:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Proposing<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>recommendations<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>directly<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>related<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>to<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>RPMs<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>is<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>beyond the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>remit<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>of<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>this<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>PDP. There<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>is<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>an<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>anticipated PDP on<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>"current<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>state<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>of<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>all<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>rights<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>protection<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>mechanisms<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>(RPMs)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>implemented<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>for<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>both<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>existing<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>and<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>new<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>gTLDs,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>including<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>but<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>not<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>limited<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>to<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>UDRP<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>and<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>URS...". Duplication<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>or<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>conflicting<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>work<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>between<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>New<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>gTLD<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Subsequent<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Procedures<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>PDP<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>and<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>PDP on<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>RPMs<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>must<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>be<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>avoided.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>If<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>topics<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>related<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>to<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>RPMs<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>are<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>uncovered<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>and<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>discussed<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>in<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>deliberations<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>of<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>this<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>PDP,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>those<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>topics<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>should<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>be<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>relayed<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>to<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>PDP<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>on<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>RPMs<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>for<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>resolution. To<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>assure<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>effective<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>coordination<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>between<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>two<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>groups,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>a<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>community<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>liaison,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>who<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>is<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>a<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>member<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>of<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>both<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Groups,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>is<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>to<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>be<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>appointed<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>jointly<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>by<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>both<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Groups<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>and<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>confirmed<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>by<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>GNSO<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Council."<br class=""><br class="">The first topic you mentioned seemed to me an aspect of the sunrise/claims process, which is being actively worked by the RPM PDP WG. The other one is about registry services in general so is not directly related to RPMs; either way, every one of the SubPro recommendations will need, at the end, an analysis of whether it uncovered a new topic that should be forwarded to the RPM PDP or not. <br class=""><br class="">(remaining text already replied to)</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br class=""></div></body></html>