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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for clarifying that Kristina. The home page for the DNS-OARC does not make a distinction as to the particular entity:
<a href="https://www.dns-oarc.net/">https://www.dns-oarc.net/</a> Nevertheless, mentioning applicants for a frozen TLD was apparently a major “faux pas” on my part and I apologize. <b>To be clear, I personally have a very high regard for both Amazon and
Google and their representatives at ICANN and believe they operate at the highest level of integrity.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I only mentioned this funding status because several have commented that any new name collision framework could also be applied to applications that were not
permitted to go forward in 2012 due to name collision issues. The Board received a letter from some other applicants about this back in August of 2016:
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/home-registry-inc-et-al-to-icann-board-24aug16-en.pdf">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/home-registry-inc-et-al-to-icann-board-24aug16-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Board responded as follows to that letter:
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/atallah-to-home-registry-inc-et-al-06mar17-en.pdf">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/atallah-to-home-registry-inc-et-al-06mar17-en.pdf</a> So it’s easy to see why the Board would want to consider applying the new Name Collision Framework recommended by the GNSO Sub Pro PDP (and presumably
to be adopted by the GNSO in a recommendation to the Board) to 2012 round applications that are frozen and still pending (per the public record).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For anyone in the subgroup who does not know, the current status of .home, .corp, and .mail is listed at the ICANN website as “CONTENTION SET ON HOLD PENDING
NAME COLLISION FRAMEWORK FINALIZATION”. Please see public records pasted below. For existing Framework provisions discussing why these names are frozen, see
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/name-collision-framework-30jul14-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/name-collision-framework-30jul14-en.pdf</a>
). Once again, I would recommend that the subgroup contract for paid independent technical advice on the proposed new name collision framework as was the case in connection with the names that were frozen in the 2012 round. I do not know why we are further
delaying in this regard, especially since we apparently want to adopt three categories of risk – low, medium, and high. This will definitely require professional, paid, and independent technical advice in my opinion.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Rosette, Kristina [mailto:rosettek@amazon.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Rubens Kuhl'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Notes and Action Items: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Track 4 - 05 October 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For the record, neither Amazon EU Sarl (the applicant for .MAIL) nor Amazon Registry Services, Inc. (the Registry Operator) is the Amazon entity that is the
Bronze member of DNS-OARC. Any suggestion to the contrary has no factual basis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> [</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Rubens Kuhl' <</span><a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">rubensk@nic.br</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org' <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Notes and Action Items: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Track 4 - 05 October 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">P.S. I only point out Google and Amazon as members of the organization mentioned in 3.(c) below because both are applicants for the .mail TLD (now “on hold”
and frozen due to name collision issues).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For anyone who does not know, our firm represents the United States Postal Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> 'Rubens Kuhl'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Julie Hedlund; </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Notes and Action Items: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Track 4 - 05 October 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes – that is what I meant when I said “consider as an alternative’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Separately, could you please remind me what we said in Work Track 4 re registry rights in relation to idn equivalents to English TLDs owned by that registry? (This came
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Also, do we have any responses yet as to the request for input on revising the name collision framework (high risk, medium risk, low risk categories) as sent to
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Julie Hedlund; </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nope, Staff alerted us that all 3 proposals are not that much different among each other and from current implementation, so they suggested it to also be considered in the whole process. Policy staff has a tradition of keeping a neutral
standing and I would be surprised if they ever took position on anything, and they didn't in this case. I just tried to give credit were credit's due, since it was them that realised that. <o:p></o:p></p>
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