[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Comment on Paragraph 1 of the Scope of Terms of Reference

Mon Dec 4 05:01:39 UTC 2017

I like it much better Nick, Thanks. narrowly focused and to the point! 

Carlos Raul Gutierrez

El 2017-11-30 11:59, Nick Wenban-Smith escribió:

> How about 
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> _Work Track 5 will focus on developing proposed recommendations regarding the treatment of geographic names at the top level (both in ASCII and IDN form), including an analysis of the Review Procedure for Geographic Names contained in the 2012 Guidebook, evaluation criteria and potential grounds for objection._ 
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> FROM: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org] ON BEHALF OF Carlos Raul Gutierrez
> SENT: 30 November 2017 17:44
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> SUBJECT: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Comment on Paragraph 1 of the Scope of Terms of Reference 
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> Is there no way to avoid "treatment"????
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> On November 30, 2017 9:24:22 AM CST, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com> wrote: 
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> Jorge, 
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> In an attempt to combine your proposal and mine, how about the following? 
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> _Work Track 5 will focus on developing proposed recommendations regarding the treatment of geographic names at the top level (both in ASCII and IDN form), including an analysis of the Review Procedure for Geographic Names contained in the 2012 Guidebook, evaluation criteria and potential grounds for objection._ 
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> We can add a footnote to that Review Procedure. 
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> FROM: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org] ON BEHALF OF Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch
> SENT: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:11 AM
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> SUBJECT: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Comment on Paragraph 1 of the Scope of Terms of Reference 
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> Hello all, 
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> I apologize for not being able to follow this work track as closely as I would like to, but other commitments are limiting the time I have for specific ICANN policy work... 
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> Without prejudice to coming back later with more detailed comments, I am a bit unsure about the direction we would be giving to the scope of our work if we put into question in abstract "whether" the non-objection rule should apply - in fact this apparently lays the focus on putting into question the applicability of that non-objection rule instead of asking how that rule works - its pros and cons etc. 
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> In fact, in Abu Dhabi there were many speakers at the F2F meeting (me included) who (1) expressly supported that rule as something that had worked pretty well in the 2012 round, (2) that supported a fact-based approach to analyzing what the shortcomings (if any) were with this rule, and (3) who advised against re-inventing that wheel. 
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> Hence, I feel we should formulate that section in the a more neutral manner as follows: 
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> "_Work Track 5 will focus on developing proposed recommendations regarding the treatment of geographic names at the top level (both in ASCII and IDN form), in particular on evaluation criteria and potential grounds for objection as well as analyzing the functioning of the non-objection requirement by affected governmental authorities provided for in the 2012 round."_ 
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> I hope that this more neutral approach to the question may be acceptable to all as a working basis. 
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> Kind regards 
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> Jorge 
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> On Nov 30, 2017, at 18:50, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com> wrote: 
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> With respect to the Scope of the Terms of Reference, please keep in mind that this section refers only to what will be discussed.  It is intended to make sure the right questions are being asked and the right topics are being covered.  It should also be neutral in nature to allow all sides of an issue to be discussed.  
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> Therefore, may I suggest a slight rewording of that first paragraph to the following: 
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> _Work Track 5 will focus on developing proposed recommendations regarding the treatment of geographic names at the top level (both in ASCII and IDN form), including whether such names require consent or non-objection from applicable governmental authorities, evaluation criteria and potential grounds for objection._ 
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> This shorter rewording moves the consent or non-objection part up in the paragraph from where it is now.  The new wording does not preclude any discussions on "approvals" nor does it implicitly endorse an approval-based model.  It (hopefully) is neutral and by virtue of having the word "consent" in the paragraph will naturally lead to discussions on how one obtains consent or non-objection if required.      
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> In addition, the term consent is already in the Applicant Guidebook, so it is a term that we are all familiar with.  And finally, according to http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/consent [1], the term "Consent" is synonymous with, "approval, assent, authorization, permission, allowance, acquiescence", etc. 
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> This is being provided as a suggestion only to move forward the conversation.  It is not being provided in any official capacity. 
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