[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Tue Aug 7 13:16:42 UTC 2018

Hi Christopher,

The upcoming WT5 call is scheduled for tomorrow Wednesday 8 August at 13:00 UTC.

Kind regards,
Emily

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of "lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson" <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>
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Date: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 at 15:14
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Adobe still non-responsive 15.15 CEST - ??

CW
El 7 de agosto de 2018 a las 14:48 Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch escribió:

Dear Martin

I guess we may also discuss the ideas already put forward and which (if I recall correctly) were included in the working doc…

Best regards

Jorge

Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org> Im Auftrag von Martin Sutton
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An: lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>
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And now is a great opportunity to share views and ideas amongst the group, as suggested on the last call.

Feel free to start a new thread titled ‘Non-AGB Terms”.

Kind regards,

Martin

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On 7 Aug 2018, at 12:25, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:

Dear Paul:

You might recall that my initial position more than six months ago was - and still is - that WT5 should be discussing non-AGB names, first.

Regards

Christopher

El 6 de agosto de 2018 a las 23:16 "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady at winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady at winston.com>> escribió:

I’m a little concerned with the “Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed” approach.  This isn’t a contract negotiation, it is a consensus building exercise.  If we have to wait until every topic has been discussed and we think we have 100% agreement on all topics before we take a consensus call on individual topics, this WG will never find an end point.

Best,

Paul

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> On Behalf Of lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> Wilkinson
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Dear Co-Leads and Martin:

I disagree with the method proposed.

1. It is premature to start consensus calls on certain restricted topics when other more critical topics have not yet been discussed.

2.  Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.

Regards

CW

El 6 de agosto de 2018 a las 21:06 Martin Sutton <martin at brandregistrygroup.org<mailto:martin at brandregistrygroup.org>> escribió:

Hi Christopher,

In order to progress the building of the Initial Report, the agenda is designed to focus on how we will achieve this and begin to gather recommendations where we find consensus. Item 4 was raised on the last call and members were requested to continue discussions over the email list, although this has been somewhat quiet probably due to holiday periods.

We encourage you to use the email list for elaborating on non-AGB categories, this will then help towards further discussions on the call. By experience of the discussions relating to non-capital cities, please provide a sound argument/rationale for any suggestions for the group to consider, rather than simply stating a request.

Kind regards,

Martin

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On 6 Aug 2018, at 15:25, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:

Dear Co-Leads:  May I request that point 4 of the proposed agenda be moved up to point 1.

Some participants, including myself, have only persevered with WT5 in-order to discuss the non-AGB terms.

These include :

-  all other geographical terms

-  geographical indications

-  several groups of regional, cultural, economic and linguistic names.

Thankyou and regards

Christopher Wilkinson

El 6 de agosto de 2018 a las 14:42 Martin Sutton <martin at brandregistrygroup.org<mailto:martin at brandregistrygroup.org>> escribió:

Dear Work Track members,

Please find below the proposed agenda for the WT5 call on Wednesday 8 August at 13:00 UTC:

1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates
2. Review of Consensus Call Process and Work Plan
3. Consensus Call on Country and Territory Names
4. Wrap Up - Non-AGB Terms
5. AOB

On our upcoming call, the leadership team will introduce a work plan aimed at wrapping up WT5’s work and delivering an Initial Report by the end of September. In maintaining this timeline, the leadership is seeking to ensure that Work Track 5 inputs can be effectively integrated into the work of the broader New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group in time for delivery of the PDP’s Final Report. A copy of the work plan is attached.

As outlined in the work plan, the leadership team will be holding a series of consensus calls on potential recommendations to include in WT5’s Initial Report. These will be introduced in clusters, with the first set of recommendations focusing on country and territory names. The draft recommendations, which will be discussed on Wednesday, are attached. Work Track members are encouraged to review and provide feedback on these draft recommendations prior to the call on Wednesday. The leadership team will officially open the consensus call on this topic following Wednesday’s call. For more information on the consensus call process that will be followed, please see the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, Section 3.6:https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-18jun18-en.pdf [gnso.icann.org] [na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fgnso.icann.org-5Fsites-5Fdefault-5Ffiles-5Ffile-5Ffield-2D2Dfile-2D2Dattach-5Fannex-2D2D1-2D2Dgnso-2D2Dwg-2D2Dguidelines-2D2D18jun18-2D2Den.pdf-2526d-253DDwMGaQ-2526c-253DFmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM-2526r-253DmBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-2Dv48zs-2DQSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI-2526m-253DNVtIpaem-2DVqCNPYPOoZhv9ofczsIO-2De3-2DmM3UoaoTMA-2526s-253Dg15pYjxotpxtjftphXYKDMOR0bso7mS5i2CXTIVfcww-2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cpmcgrady-2540winston.com-257Cda9292b392304e149c7208d5fbe0d831-257C12a8aae45e2f4ad8adab9375a84aa3e5-257C0-257C0-257C636691865472632128-26sdata-3Dme4M2xocdDENZhUf8U-252FfsplZO3q09h-252FivOZ-252FOORwgPE-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=c2AIkg3ufQG74Spnza__F6zpjLVzYU-HEyJ7vfq7MEA&s=NuLuhhyrFqDhG2QagctDahb5ipfftwkIkt9qEG6h7N8&e=>.

If you need a dial out for the upcoming call or would like to send an apology, please email gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>.

Kind regards,

WT5 Co-Leads

Annebeth Lange

Javier Rua

Olga Cavalli

Martin Sutton

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