[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Carlos Raul Gutierrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se
Sat Aug 11 13:57:29 UTC 2018


Rosalía

The ccNSO tried to move on and couldn't. The CWG ccNSO GNSO also got stuck exactly at this juncture (reservation of ISO 3l list). And now this WT5 draft is suggesting exactly the same.

I'm sorry, but I see no reasonable rationale yet to move on other than lack of consensus.

I want to leave for the record that in my view, the ISO 3L could be a dream of a list for purely public interest that could be "uniformerly", I.e. under a single set of PICs, used for non for profit, geographic only, expandable,  cheap way for geonames.

And I think it would be valuable to spend MORE time on the PICs and the delegation conditions for such a fine list.

Have a nice weekend

On August 10, 2018 4:17:30 PM CST, "Rosalía Morales" <rosalia.morales at nic.cr> wrote:
>Carlos,
>I’m not questioning your position. Everyone has their own right to
>their opinions. My opinion is that we should try to move on.
>Best,
>Rosalía
>
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>From: Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 3:57:27 PM
>To: Rosalía Morales; Javier Rua
>Cc: gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org
>Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus
>Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.
>
>Rosalía
>
>I submitted my position on 3 letter codes delegation in written form
>well before San Juan.
>
>My position goes back to the CWG on the same issue years ago, also on
>record.
>
>I can always live with a minority position here.
>
>
>
>On August 10, 2018 10:27:56 AM CST, "Rosalía Morales"
><rosalia.morales at nic.cr> wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>We discussed the issue on 3 letter codes for months and had come to a
>consensus in our face to face meeting in San Juan. I strongly believe
>we should stick to our previous agreements and move on.
>
>Best,
>Rosalía
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>
>On Aug 9, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Javier Rua
><javrua at gmail.com<mailto:javrua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>Carlos,
>
>I see you support keeping the current status of two letter-letter
>country/territory codes.  I think that’s in line with general WT
>thinking and I feel has broad support.
>
>On the other hand, like some other WT members you mention preference
>for a future policy that’s a bit more liberal or “pro delegation” in
>regards 3 letter codes that are geonames, limiting the possible
>applicants to -governmental authorities, ccTLD managers and “public
>interest entities”.
>
>Could you expand on these “public interest entities”? Could you suggest
>language in the pertinent “Recommendation” for WT consideration?
>
>Thx
>
>Javier Rúa-Jovet
>
>+1-787-396-6511
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>
>On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez
><carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>> wrote:
>
>
>Dear Annebeth
>
>
>I fully support Recommendation #1 AS IS
>
>no changes there
>
>
>I don't support the recommendation on ISO 3 letter (forgot the number).
>ISO 3 letter codes should be delegated to Govs, ccTLD managers or any
>other interested PUBLIC INTEREST entities
>
>
>Don't know if this answers your question
>
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>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
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>El 2018-08-08 14:48, Annebeth Lange escribió:
>
>Hi Carlos
>
>Could I ask you for one clarification? If we open up for some
>2-letter/letter combinations in the GNSO process, they will
>automatically be gTLDs. You don't think that will disturb the
>distinction we have had from the beginning that 2-characters are ccTLDs
>and 3 or more gTLDs?
>
>Kind regards,
>Annebeth
>
>
>Annebeth B Lange
>Special Adviser International Policy
>UNINETT Norid AS
>Phone: +47 959 11 559
>Mail: annebeth.lange at norid.no<mailto:annebeth.lange at norid.no>
>
>
>
>8. aug. 2018 kl. 22:43 skrev Carlos Raul Gutierrez
><carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>>:
>
>My comments to today's call:
>
>1. "The ICANN Community may want to consider whether a future process
>should be established or determine if, when, and how specific
>interested parties, such as relevant government authorities, may apply
>for country and territory names" This paragraph is the only sensible
>part of a forward-looking recommendation and should/could be redrafted.
>I wonder if it could be enhanced, or if the only way to go is deletion
>as CW suggested.   A shorter more concise version? A more "liberal"
>version? How about: "ICANN may consider applications by specific
>interested parties, such as relevant authorities, of strings that are
>not current or future countries or territories."  Ps: The text in
>Recommendation 1 "reserving ALL two character letter letter"
>combinations-  can be enhanced.  I wonder if it's truly ALL, or if the
>potential for future countries and potential combinations is really
>much less broad? Could that be qualified somehow? I can't think of a
>future .xx or .ññ country or territory and maybe we could tweak the
>language to open this a bit and garner broad community support to move
>forward.
>
>2. Other than recommendation #1, I object strongly the text to "keep
>geo names from the delegation" in any other recommedation, unless a
>clear rationale is added to the recommendation
>
>
>3. I hope no draft goes out before a substantial non-AGB names
>discussion has taken place, including to geographic related, cultural,
>linguistic and other social  elements, ,like Apache Nation
>
>
>Best regards
>
>
>
>---
>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
>+506 8837 7176
>Aparatado 1571-1000
>COSTA RICA
>
>
>
>El 2018-08-08 05:09, Emily Barabas escribió:
>Dear Work Track members,
>
>Please find attached suggested revisions to the draft recommendations
>shared yesterday. Please note that this revised text includes
>clarifications and typo corrections only. Feedback on some of the more
>substantive issues will be discussed further on today's call.
>
>Kind regards,
>Emily
>
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>on behalf of Martin Sutton
><martin at brandregistrygroup.org<mailto:martin at brandregistrygroup.org>>
>Date: Monday, 6 August 2018 at 14:45
>To:
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>Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call
>on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.
>
>Dear Work Track members,
>
>Please find below the proposed agenda for the WT5 call on Wednesday 8
>August at 13:00 UTC:
>
>1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates
>2. Review of Consensus Call Process and Work Plan
>3. Consensus Call on Country and Territory Names
>4. Wrap Up - Non-AGB Terms
>5. AOB
>
>On our upcoming call, the leadership team will introduce a work plan
>aimed at wrapping up WT5's work and delivering an Initial Report by the
>end of September. In maintaining this timeline, the leadership is
>seeking to ensure that Work Track 5 inputs can be effectively
>integrated into the work of the broader New gTLD Subsequent Procedures
>PDP Working Group in time for delivery of the PDP's Final Report. A
>copy of the work plan is attached.
>
>As outlined in the work plan, the leadership team will be holding a
>series of consensus calls on potential recommendations to include in
>WT5's Initial Report. These will be introduced in clusters, with the
>first set of recommendations focusing on country and territory names.
>The draft recommendations, which will be discussed on Wednesday, are
>attached. Work Track members are encouraged to review and provide
>feedback on these draft recommendations prior to the call on Wednesday.
>The leadership team will officially open the consensus call on this
>topic following Wednesday's call. For more information on the consensus
>call process that will be followed, please see the GNSO Working Group
>Guidelines, Section
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>Kind regards,
>
>WT5 Co-Leads
>Annebeth Lange
>Javier Rua
>Olga Cavalli
>Martin Sutton
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