[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Mon Aug 13 14:46:28 UTC 2018

+1 Jorge

Once again, we are having the same discussion all over again. We are hearing the same arguments pro an against. Can the Secretariat please share a summary of the previous discussion?

Best,
Rosalía
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On Aug 13, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch> wrote:

Hello all

For those not attending the San Juan Meeting or not recalling it, it could be worthwhile that Secretariat could circulate a short summary of the rationale(s) that were put forward and discussed regarding 3-letter-country codes (and other country names).

We are now at consensus call stage, but this should not mean that everyone has to reiterate all arguments again, especially when there was a f2f meeting in San Juan and conclusions were drawn from it by the co-leads.

One thought in this discussion which is key to me (and which I mentioned in San Juan) is that 3-letter country codes are intuitively very closely linked to the country at stake, eg we use the three-letter code, inter alia, for our passports. Connected to this is the thought that such TLDs should be subject to applicable policies developed by the corresponding national communities, similarly to what happens with the 2-letter-country-codes, following in essence a principle of subsidiarity.

In San Juan the feeling was that this requires a new kind of policy-making forum within ICANN, as the GNSO deals with generic TLDs that are subject to a quite thorough global policy framework.

I feel these ideas are still valid and the many voices in support of them in San Juan should be recalled and recorded.

Best regards

Jorge

Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Javier Rua
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. August 2018 01:53
An: Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>>
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Carlos,

I see you support keeping the current status of two letter-letter country/territory codes.  I think that’s in line with general WT thinking and I feel has broad support.

On the other hand, like some other WT members you mention preference for a future policy that’s a bit more liberal or “pro delegation” in regards 3 letter codes that are geonames, limiting the possible applicants to -governmental authorities, ccTLD managers and “public interest entities”.

Could you expand on these “public interest entities”? Could you suggest language in the pertinent “Recommendation” for WT consideration?

Thx
Javier Rúa-Jovet

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On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>> wrote:

Dear Annebeth

I fully support Recommendation #1 AS IS

no changes there

I don't support the recommendation on ISO 3 letter (forgot the number). ISO 3 letter codes should be delegated to Govs, ccTLD managers or any other interested PUBLIC INTEREST entities

Don't know if this answers your question

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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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El 2018-08-08 14:48, Annebeth Lange escribió:

Hi Carlos

Could I ask you for one clarification? If we open up for some 2-letter/letter combinations in the GNSO process, they will automatically be gTLDs. You don't think that will disturb the distinction we have had from the beginning that 2-characters are ccTLDs and 3 or more gTLDs?

Kind regards,
Annebeth

Annebeth B Lange
Special Adviser International Policy
UNINETT Norid AS
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8. aug. 2018 kl. 22:43 skrev Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>>:

My comments to today's call:

1. "The ICANN Community may want to consider whether a future process should be established or determine if, when, and how specific interested parties, such as relevant government authorities, may apply for country and territory names" This paragraph is the only sensible part of a forward-looking recommendation and should/could be redrafted. I wonder if it could be enhanced, or if the only way to go is deletion as CW suggested.   A shorter more concise version? A more "liberal" version? How about: "ICANN may consider applications by specific interested parties, such as relevant authorities, of strings that are not current or future countries or territories."  Ps: The text in Recommendation 1 "reserving ALL two character letter letter" combinations-  can be enhanced.  I wonder if it's truly ALL, or if the potential for future countries and potential combinations is really much less broad? Could that be qualified somehow? I can't think of a future .xx or .ññ country or territory and maybe we could tweak the language to open this a bit and garner broad community support to move forward.

2. Other than recommendation #1, I object strongly the text to "keep geo names from the delegation" in any other recommedation, unless a clear rationale is added to the recommendation

3. I hope no draft goes out before a substantial non-AGB names discussion has taken place, including to geographic related, cultural, linguistic and other social  elements, ,like Apache Nation

Best regards

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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
+506 8837 7176
Aparatado 1571-1000
COSTA RICA

El 2018-08-08 05:09, Emily Barabas escribió:

Dear Work Track members,

Please find attached suggested revisions to the draft recommendations shared yesterday. Please note that this revised text includes clarifications and typo corrections only. Feedback on some of the more substantive issues will be discussed further on today's call.

Kind regards,
Emily

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Martin Sutton <martin at brandregistrygroup.org<mailto:martin at brandregistrygroup.org>>
Date: Monday, 6 August 2018 at 14:45
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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.

Dear Work Track members,

Please find below the proposed agenda for the WT5 call on Wednesday 8 August at 13:00 UTC:

1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates
2. Review of Consensus Call Process and Work Plan
3. Consensus Call on Country and Territory Names
4. Wrap Up - Non-AGB Terms
5. AOB

On our upcoming call, the leadership team will introduce a work plan aimed at wrapping up WT5's work and delivering an Initial Report by the end of September. In maintaining this timeline, the leadership is seeking to ensure that Work Track 5 inputs can be effectively integrated into the work of the broader New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group in time for delivery of the PDP's Final Report. A copy of the work plan is attached.

As outlined in the work plan, the leadership team will be holding a series of consensus calls on potential recommendations to include in WT5's Initial Report. These will be introduced in clusters, with the first set of recommendations focusing on country and territory names. The draft recommendations, which will be discussed on Wednesday, are attached. Work Track members are encouraged to review and provide feedback on these draft recommendations prior to the call on Wednesday. The leadership team will officially open the consensus call on this topic following Wednesday's call. For more information on the consensus call process that will be followed, please see the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, Section 3.6:https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-18jun18-en.pdf [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_default_files_file_field-2Dfile-2Dattach_annex-2D1-2Dgnso-2Dwg-2Dguidelines-2D18jun18-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=NVtIpaem-VqCNPYPOoZhv9ofczsIO-e3-mM3UoaoTMA&s=g15pYjxotpxtjftphXYKDMOR0bso7mS5i2CXTIVfcww&e=>.

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Kind regards,

WT5 Co-Leads
Annebeth Lange
Javier Rua
Olga Cavalli
Martin Sutton

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