[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] RE: Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Nick Wenban-Smith Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk
Fri Nov 16 22:14:31 UTC 2018


Actually I just noticed that there is no name associated with the UN code – so in theory .UNITEDNATIONS would have be eligible? (or at least not classified as non-geographic?)

From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
Sent: 16 November 2018 13:55
To: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>; Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap at NLnetLabs.nl>; lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>
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Subject: Re: [Ext] RE: Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the question. It’s a little easier to see using the decoding table as reference: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB500001:en. For the code “EZ” (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:EZ) you will see that there is no short or long form name associated with the code. Therefore, there was no reservation in the AGB associated with this one. The code “SU” (see https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SU) has the short form name “USSR.” Therefore, USSR was reserved.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,
Emily

From: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk<mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>>
Date: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 at 11:29
To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org>>, Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap at NLnetLabs.nl<mailto:jaap at NLnetLabs.nl>>, "lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu%20Wilkinson>" <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
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Subject: RE: [Ext] RE: Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Ah thanks Emily – I got that United Nations was associated with UN, and European Union with EU, and so those names were reserved. But what was the name(s) associated with the EZ code? And for SU is the associated name former USSR or just USSR?

These are quite minor points in the scheme of things though. In the alternative we could just go with:

The 2012 Applicant Guidebook reserved any string that is a “short- or long-
form name association with a code that has been designated as “exceptionally reserved” by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency”. The Work Track members discussed the effect of this provision and do not recommend any changes are made to it, in effect the terms United Nations and European Union continue to be reserved.

From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org>>
Sent: 14 November 2018 09:32
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Subject: Re: [Ext] RE: Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Hi Nick,

Thanks for this feedback. I just wanted to highlight that the 2012 Applicant Guidebook provision did cover all names associated with codes on the list, regardless of whether they were country and territory names or not. In other words, GDD has confirmed that the effect of the provision was consistent with the way the language was presented in the AGB. The Work Track is welcome to suggest a change to the provision, but it may be helpful for the WT to suggest a specific change rather than requesting clarification, unless there is still something that is unclear about the existing language at this point.

Kind regards,
Emily

From: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk<mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>>
Date: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 at 15:59
To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org>>, Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap at NLnetLabs.nl<mailto:jaap at NLnetLabs.nl>>, "lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu%20Wilkinson>" <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
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Subject: [Ext] RE: Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Thanks Emily and to Jaap (I hope you are feeling better now) and Christopher

I was looking at whether I could propose some revised text for the draft report to get the ball rolling.

So I can see from the online browsing platform that there are 12 codes we are talking about here:

Alpha-2 code

English short name

Remark

AC

Refers to Ascension Island and reserved at the request of Universal Postal Union (UPU)

CP

Refers to Clipperton Island and reserved at the request of International Telecommunication Union (ITU).

DG

Refers to Diego Garcia and reserved at the request of International Telecommunication Union (ITU)

EA

Refers to Ceuta, Melilla and reserved at the request of World Customs Organization (WCO).

EU

Refers to European Union and reserved at the request of ISO 4217/MA (March 1998) for ISO 6166, Securities - International securities identification numbering system (ISIN).

EZ

Refers to European OTC derivatives and reserved at the request of ISO 6166/RA, Securities - International securities identification numbering system (ISIN).

FX

France, Metropolitan

Refers to Metropolitan France and reserved at the request of France.

IC

Refers to the Canary Islands and reserved at the request of World Customs Organization (WCO)

SU

USSR

Refers to the former USSR and reserved at the request of the Foundation for Internet Development (FID).

TA

Refers to Tristan da Cunha and reserved at the request of Universal Postal Union (UPU).

UK

Refers to the United Kingdom and reserved at the request of United Kingdom.

UN

Refers to the United Nations and reserved by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency.



[Disclaimer obviously UK is one of those on the list, but since UK is already delegated and United Kingdom associated in any case with the GB code I don’t think what I suggest below makes any difference to us.]

Looking at the draft text for the WT5 report, would it be better to amend as follows:

The 2012 Applicant Guidebook reserved any string that is a “short- or long-
form name association with a code that has been designated as “exceptionally reserved” by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency”. Upon more detailed advice and examination of those “exceptionally reserved” codes it has been highlighted that the effect of reserving the short- or long- form names associated with the “exceptionally reserved” codes in the 2012 Applicant Guidebook is unclear. For example in the case of EZ which is exceptionally reserved as referring to OTC derivatives, and whether or not this resulted in the exclusion of ‘United Nations’ and ‘European Union’ from being allowed as new gTLDs in the AGB2012 since those terms are not country names. This provision should be clarified for the next round of new gTLDs. Some Work Track members have stated that an “exceptionally reserved” list does not exist under the ISO 3166 standard, and therefore it is unclear what this provision references. Do you agree or disagree? Please explain.

Anyway just a suggestion, feel free to adapt/ ignore!

Best wishes
Nick

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Sent: 13 November 2018 12:27
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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Follow up on "exceptionally reserved" codes

Dear Work Track 5 members,

Thanks to Jaap and Christopher for continuing this conversation and for sharing the below links. This is a brief attempt to summarize some of the points Jaap has previously raised about “exceptionally reserved” codes and consider next steps. Jaap, please correct, as necessary, but I believe these are the items you have raised:


  *   They are not officially reserved code points, although data about these codes is available at the ISO’s Online Browsing Platform (OBP [iso.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui-23search&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=VU1wKX3KNJUorswkpifS1mg7ocUyNIRvJwWDCmrug1I&e=>), with the decoding table at https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB500001:en [iso.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui_-23iso-3Apub-3APUB500001-3Aen&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=iDRNp4YxFBf3xnLfoIqv314q6GKMTwZ7-UWKCq4xxMw&e=>, and the definition of "exceptional reservations" is included in the current standard,  (ISO 3166-1:2013(E/F)) Section 7.5, Reservation of Code Elements
  *   The list may be out of date
  *   Not all exceptionally reserved codes have a short and long form name associated with them
  *   Some exceptionally reserved codes do not refer to a country or territory (for example “UN” for United Nations)
  *   Some places may have more than one code associated with them, for example Tristan da Cunha has both an assigned 2-letter code (SH) and an exceptionally reserved code (TA)

Regarding the fourth bullet above, staff has connected with GDD colleagues to get additional clarification about the relevant provision in the 2012 Applicant Guidebook: Applications for strings that are country or territory names will not be approved, as they are not available under the New gTLD Program in this application round. A string shall be considered to be a country or territory name if:  iv. it is the short- or long-form name association with a code that has been designated as “exceptionally reserved” by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency. GDD has confirmed that all such short- and long- form names were reserved, regardless of whether they referred to a country or territory.
Jaap, I believe your briefly mentioned previously that it might be appropriate to remove or modify this provision of the AGB. If you would like to include a proposal in the Initial Report, can you kindly provide some language, along with (if possible) a description of the problem that this proposal would solve? All other Work Track members are welcome to submit proposals on this issue, as well.

Kind regards,
Emily

From: Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap at NLnetLabs.nl<mailto:jaap at NLnetLabs.nl>>
Date: Friday, 9 November 2018 at 12:50
To: "lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu%20Wilkinson>" <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
Cc: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org<mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org>>, <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org>>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Notes and Action Items - Work Track 5 - 7 November 2018


[Oops, sending from a proper account this time]

On Nov 7, 2018, at 18:42, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:

Good evening:
Further to the WT5 discussion this morning, the table of ISO-3166 alpha2 exceptionally reserved codes can be found at:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2
[en.wikipedia.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_ISO-5F3166-2D1-5Falpha-2D2&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=VZ6QXo_fNKi6wT86f5d55GYheM37D_POOVAQN0t3XvQ&e=>Click on 2.4.1 Exceptional Reservations, in the Contents.
This is a table indeed. Note that wikipedia is not always aligned with the website from ISO. As said in my previous mail, the data is also available at the Online Browsing Platform (OBP [iso.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui-23search&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=VU1wKX3KNJUorswkpifS1mg7ocUyNIRvJwWDCmrug1I&e=>) on the iso.org [iso.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__iso.org_&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=ixto7Hp6AHyOnkdytygWfGFHzypA2S28tnnnff06xSE&e=> site. The link for the decoding table is <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB500001:en [iso.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iso.org_obp_ui_-23iso-3Apub-3APUB500001-3Aen&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=-u_MruWUaTE0n-3uXJET6k4_59PeCNAeDi9z-ORDoDY&s=iDRNp4YxFBf3xnLfoIqv314q6GKMTwZ7-UWKCq4xxMw&e=>>.

Regards,

                jaap
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