[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC

Wed Jun 12 16:20:16 UTC 2019

Thanks Jorge – noting your concern where there is a lack of official languages, but we need to use some terminology that it clear and unambiguous.  I do not think “relevant national, regional and community languages” is.  Here in London you can probably find small communities of speakers of a very large number of languages.  At what point do they become “relevant”? Can you suggest a definition that we can all apply with certainty?

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From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch
Sent: 12 June 2019 16:46
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC

Dear all
As explained before many countries do not have «official» languages as such. Hence, I would favor –in a spirit of consensus and subject to that spirit being shared by all- a solution that would afford protection to all official and all relevant national, regional and community languages – besides UN languages, for sure...
Kind regards
Jorge

Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Nick Wenban-Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2019 17:32
An: Javier Rua <javrua at gmail.com<mailto:javrua at gmail.com>>; Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH <ohlmer at dotzon.com<mailto:ohlmer at dotzon.com>>
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Betreff: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC

Hear hear!!

I may not be on the call tonight as I have a work dinner appointment, but I entirely support the substance of this recommendation as well.

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> On Behalf Of Javier Rua
Sent: 12 June 2019 15:56
To: Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH <ohlmer at dotzon.com<mailto:ohlmer at dotzon.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC

Without commenting on substance, thanks for this email, Katrin; particularly it’s forward-looking and consensus building spirit.

Javier

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:50 AM Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH <ohlmer at dotzon.com<mailto:ohlmer at dotzon.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

on behalf of the geoTLD.group I would like to provide our input on topic 4c:

While we are still of the opinion that a name of a capital city shall be protected in any language, we are willing to reconsider our position to achieve consensus and could support the amendment to
1.           The official language of the country/territory/capital city.
2.           Translations of the country/territory/capital city in UN languages.

with the following addition:
3. Transliterations into ASCII and conversion to DNS labels. Otherwise capital cities such as Den Haag or São Tomé would not be able to be protected with denhaag/den-hag or sao-tome/saotome.

This is a very limited addition, can be clearly defined and identical to the way ICANN processed the Red Cross and IOC names list. I hope this is an acceptable compromise for the working group.

One general remark: We would appreciate if other work track members are willing to accept compromises in other areas, in order to move forward.

Talk to you later.

Kind regards,
Katrin

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Von: Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces at icann.org>> Im Auftrag von Martin Sutton
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 20:29
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Betreff: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC

Dear all,

Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place Wednesday, 12 June 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.

  1.  Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates
  2.  Reminder of Process (PDF attached)
  3.  Recommendations Review Status Tracking Document (PDF attached)
  4.  Summary Document Review (PDF pending):

     *   Geographic Terms Requiring Letters of Support/Non-Objection (Recommendations 10, 12, 13)
     *   Capital city names, Sub-national place names (county, province, or state, listed in the ISO 3166-2 standard), UNESCO or M49 Area
     *   Languages:  At our last meeting we reviewed the comments relating to the language requirement for geographic terms: "An application for any string that is a representation, in any language, of the capital city name of any country or territory listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard".  There was general acceptance and no objections towards refining the language requirements to reflect more relevance and practical applicability. At this stage, the group considered the following option to be a suitable base for further discussion:

        *   The official language of the country/territory/capital city.
        *   Translations of the country/territory/capital city in UN languages.
WT5 members are encouraged to consider this and to put forward suggestions via the email list as well as during our next call.

     *   Geographic Terms That Require Letters of Support/Non-Objection Dependent Upon Intended Usage (Recommendation 11) (text pending)

  1.  AOB

For agenda item 4, please review the Google document at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rsyxCEBd6ax3Rb_w1kms_E9n29XL1_lw3Yp9XQ4TeCY/edit?ts=5ce64d6d#<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rsyxCEBd6ax3Rb_w1kms_E9n29XL1_lw3Yp9XQ4TeCY/edit?ts=5ce64d6d> and attached as a current snapshot of the living document. This document seeks to condense and organize the public input received to WT5’s Initial Report.

If you need a dial out or would like to send an apology for this call, please email gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>.

Kind regards,

Work Track 5 Co-leads (Annebeth Lange, Javier Rúa-Jovet, Martin Sutton, and Olga Cavalli)

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