<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Paul, </div><div>We are an international group that would look at all availabler data which may merely reflects the view of their authors .Moreover, we have no problem with any repository source but the one you referred in one of many.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm sorry Jorge, but aren't all the answers to your questions in the linked<br>
web pages that Aslam forwarded? For example, the first page says it is<br>
maintained by the Board of Geographic Names which was created by the US<br>
government in 1890. It says the purpose is to standardize (not regulate)<br>
naming and if you click through a couple of clicks you can find a statement<br>
of principles as to how it makes decisions.<br>
P<br>
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Comment on Paragraph 1 of the Scope of<br>
Terms of Reference - Board on Geo Names.<br>
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Dear Aslam<br>
<br>
Thanks for this interesting example.<br>
<br>
Would you be able to provide some further info on it, e.g. (1) who maintains<br>
this database?, (2) what are the eligibility rules? who can request an<br>
inscription?, (3) what is its specific purpose?, (4) what are the effects of<br>
an inscription in that repository? does it provide some sort of protection<br>
to the name?<br>
<br>
thanks in advance for any specific info on these questions...<br>
<br>
best<br>
<br>
Jorge<br>
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Datum: 30. November 2017 um 16:29:59 MEZ<br>
An: Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
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Terms of Reference - Board on Geo Names.<br>
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Dear Jeff et al<br>
I thought this could be an informative reference point for WT5.<br>
<br>
The US Board on Geographic Names rules on hundreds of naming decisions each<br>
year and maintains geographical databases (available at<br>
<a href="http://geonames.usgs.gov" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">geonames.usgs.gov</a><<a href="http://geonames.usgs.gov/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://<wbr>geonames.usgs.gov/</a>>) containing more than two<br>
million domestic records and over 11 million records for foreign names.<br>
There are some conflicts with established trademarks though!<br>
<br>
Should BGN be the point of reference for geo name gTLDs? Or is there any<br>
other global database anyone in the group knows of which can be built into<br>
policy by WT5? It would speed things up for WT5 recommendations.<br>
<br>
By way of comparison, for country code gTLDs ISO 3166 has been adopted as<br>
the point of reference.<br>
<br>
It might interest you to know that .Amazon or .PersianGulf do not find<br>
mention in these lists for proscription! Do correct me if I am wrong.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards<br>
<br>
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On 30 Nov 2017, at 09:52, Jeff Neuman<br>
<<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.<wbr>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<br>
With respect to the Scope of the Terms of Reference, please keep in mind<br>
that this section refers only to what will be discussed. It is intended to<br>
make sure the right questions are being asked and the right topics are being<br>
covered. It should also be neutral in nature to allow all sides of an issue<br>
to be discussed.<br>
<br>
<br>
Therefore, may I suggest a slight rewording of that first paragraph to the<br>
following:<br>
<br>
<br>
Work Track 5 will focus on developing proposed recommendations regarding the<br>
treatment of geographic names at the top level (both in ASCII and IDN form),<br>
including whether such names require consent or non-objection from<br>
applicable governmental authorities, evaluation criteria and potential<br>
grounds for objection.<br>
<br>
This shorter rewording moves the consent or non-objection part up in the<br>
paragraph from where it is now. The new wording does not preclude any<br>
discussions on "approvals" nor does it implicitly endorse an approval-based<br>
model. It (hopefully) is neutral and by virtue of having the word "consent"<br>
in the paragraph will naturally lead to discussions on how one obtains<br>
consent or non-objection if required.<br>
<br>
In addition, the term consent is already in the Applicant Guidebook, so it<br>
is a term that we are all familiar with. And finally, according to<br>
<a href="http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/consent" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.thesaurus.com/<wbr>browse/consent</a>, the term "Consent" is synonymous<br>
with, "approval, assent, authorization, permission, allowance,<br>
acquiescence", etc.<br>
<br>
This is being provided as a suggestion only to move forward the<br>
conversation. It is not being provided in any official capacity.<br>
<br>
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