<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">welll when am looking at it….we have yet to properly instate the charter we are jumping the gun all the time. This makes situation more complicated and time consuming. i agree the ISO definition comes in. In which case just take the iso three words already the list is there. But how about a safeguard councilor committee that overlooks these because going through the icann procedures can sometimes take too long. Business model or not. It opens and protects the ISO and the IP clearing house.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">These will be the first cross reference anyway. But we need to move we cannot spend time to go 2 steps and 3 steps back.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 12, 2018, at 16:59, Javier Rua <<a href="mailto:javrua@gmail.com" class="">javrua@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">Note: I stand corrected! ISO 3166 and 3166-2 are about codes and codes only and In themselves really provide no additional information about the “sovereignty status” or “dependency status” of the pertinent geography.</span></div><div data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">Jaap has graciously pointed out to me cases of dependent territories, for example, the case of Wallis and Futuna which beside their ISO 3166 code (WF), these island-dependencies (overseas collectivities of France) also hold several ISO 3166-2 administrative subdivision codes</span></div><div id="m_-8439532086825832598country-subdivisions" style="color: rgb(49, 49, 49); font-family: -apple-system, HelveticaNeue; font-size: 19px; word-spacing: 1px;" class=""><table id="m_-8439532086825832598subdivision" class="m_-8439532086825832598tablesorter" style="width: 939.34375px; border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(221, 221, 221); padding: 5px;" class=""><span data-removefontsize="true" data-originalcomputedfontsize="16" style="font-size: 23px; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody" class="">WF-AL (Alo); WF-SG (Sigave) and WF-UV (Uvea). </font></span><a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:WF" class="">https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:WF</a><br class=""><br class="">(Therefore that a certain jurisdiction holds ISO-3166-2 coded subdivisions says nothing about that jurisdiction’s political status in regards ultimate sovereignty).<br class=""></td></tr></tbody></table></div><br class=""><div class="">Javier Rúa-Jovet<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">+1-787-396-6511</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">twitter: @javrua</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">skype: javier.rua1</span></div><div class=""><font style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=""><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua</a> </font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><br class="">On Jan 11, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@NLnetLabs.nl" class="">jaap@NLnetLabs.nl</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Nick,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Did not know or remember that interesting fact about Scotland (GB-SCT)</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">under 3166-2. Seeing <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2" class="">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2</a> which</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">reports that ISO-2 list, I just realized that it indirectly</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">differentiates between independent countries and non-sovereign</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">territories that possess 3166-1 country codes: those with subdivisions</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">are independent countries and those without are not. Thanks a lot!</span><br class=""></blockquote><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Note that Wikipedia is not a normative source for ISO information.</span><br class=""><span class="">Apart from that, the conclusion you make about the difference between</span><br class=""><span class="">ISO 3166 Part 1 and Part 2 is incorrect.</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Part 2 defines subdivisions codes and given that, none of them are</span><br class=""><span class="">independent. These codes have the form AA-XXXX. The AA part is the</span><br class=""><span class="">alpha-2 code defined in Part 1. It doesn't say anything about the</span><br class=""><span class="">dependency status of those subdivisions. In Part 1, there is an</span><br class=""><span class="">indicator whether it the code is assigned to an Independent country or</span><br class=""><span class="">not. Also note Part 2 only has subdivisions from Codes in Part 1.</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">If one want to know what ISO 3166 actually says, it is best to go to</span><br class=""><span class="">the source directly. You can browse the ISO database using</span><br class=""><span class=""><<a href="https://www.iso.org/obp" class="">https://www.iso.org/obp</a>>. In the search box, select the country</span><br class=""><span class="">button and type in the query. Then you can click on the results and see the</span><br class=""><span class="">glory details. For Scotland one gets something like</span><br class=""><span class=""><<a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:GB" class="">https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:code:3166:GB</a>>. Note the "Yes" in the</span><br class=""><span class="">dependency status of GB.</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Hope this helps, Regards,</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""> jaap</span><br class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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