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<div class="">I’ve been thinking about this in more detail and am wondering whether we are getting stuck on something quite simple? We have, as we all know, maintained a distinction between what ccTLD managers do to manage two letter codes that relate to their
country/identity/presence and the terms and conditions for which they do that which ranges from nothing to quite detailed Sponsorship Agreements with clear obligations and responsibilities.</div>
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<div class="">We also know the blurring between a two letter code used by countries and a top level domain operator is now pretty much complete. We run the spectrum of re-purposed country codes (tv, la, co as examples) which really don’t reflect their original
idea (which is fine) and we have country code managers who now straddle the ccNSO and are also contracted parties within the GNSO Registry Stakeholder Group. </div>
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<div class="">I think it’s likely time that we approached the reality of the “contracts” for top level domain operators from a different perspective to help us resolve some key policy questions that clear some roadblocks and disagreements. For example, if
we assumed that all contracts for top level domains take pretty much the same form, what would that mean for an application process, an evaluation process and a compliance regime? If we continue to assume that a baseline contract is published at the commencement
of any application process, so that applicants know what they are getting in to, we can perhaps think on how we address some varied “protections” which seem to be required to reach policy consensus.</div>
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<div class="">Would some of our concerns about “limiting” types or styles of applications be addressed by thinking more clearly around a baseline registry agreement? Some of this was attempted in the Public Interest Commitment (PICs) in the 2012 but I wonder
how effective that has been? If we had a set of policy principles for contracting which is consistent with ICANN legacy contracts, Mission and Core Values and then simplicity of accountability, we might go some way towards a more nuanced response to the opportunities
presented by geographic names being used as top level domain labels.</div>
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<div class="">On 5 Apr 2018, at 5:31 pm, Annebeth Lange <<a href="mailto:annebeth.lange@norid.no" class="">annebeth.lange@norid.no</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">Hei Alexander<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">This is an interesting discussion. Greg earlier referred to RFC 3071 from 2011, which raises some of the same questions. Before GNSO and ccNSO there was DNSO, that handled it all. However, what was raised
at ICANN 61 at the WT5 meeting was that especially the different variations of country & territory names, including ISO 3166 3-letter codes, and whatever were excluded in the end from the 2012 AGB, were neither ccTLDs nor gTLDs, but “something in between”
where the question was where the underlying policy authority was. And that the basic difference is that those TLDs that identify a country should be under the local community authority.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">So, the key element is how these country names could fit into a gTLD process without having to fall under the global policy authority and superseding the local policy authority. This was made very clear by
several participants during the meeting in San Juan.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">In my view, it is not a question of dissolving neither GNSO nor ccNSO, but whether it is inside our scope in WT 5 to solve this question or not. As I see it we can which names are gTLDs and which are not
and under which conditions, for example support/non-objection, but not to make it to “something else”, to a group that we do not have today.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">Kind regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS";" class="">Annebeth<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class=""><span style="" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="" class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf
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<b class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>" <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 4 April 2018 at 20:49<br class="">
<b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5' <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] The WT5 meeting in San Juan - CW comments<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Timo,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Just for clarification: So you think a .city should be a ccTLD as well? A .state (e.g. .florida) as well?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Why don’t we simply dissolve the ccNSO and end the artificial separation between ccTLDs and gTLDs – and just have ONE class of TLDs? Would make it MUCH easier! It seems you are calling
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How can the harmonization of ccTLDs and gTLDs be applied for at ICANN? What would be the steps?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:12 PM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] The WT5 meeting in San Juan - CW comments</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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The separation between generic and country code TLDs is not the question of semantics - it is about policy ie who is in control of how the TLD is operated whether it is local internet community or international community (ICANN). So from that point of view
anything that stands for and represents country names must be in control of these local communities. That in general goes for geo-names as well - in my view interests of local internet community should override the corporate interests. But as the geo-names
were already released under GNSO policy we should work around that to try to find a solution that works for internet communities and if no claim is made for corporate or international/generic interests.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Greg makes a valid point here:<br class="">
Obviously a place like Qatar, London or Israel are relevant and important enough internationally as well as locally to be protected globally for the local residents. But then there are places that do not even HAVE “Internet”, no industry whatsoever and no recognition
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But this is probably irrelevant for the names that have been banned in the 2012 round: ISO 3166 Alpha-3 and territory names. These are impacting enough to deserve extra protection by requiring a letter of non-objection by the Government!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] The WT5 meeting in San Juan - CW comments</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Whether it is “primarily” one of those things may or may not be a relevant or workable test or factor. And how one determines the primary use is open to debate. Declaring that if some patch of dirt or pool of water has been named X, that X is always “primarily”
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Invoking “transparency and predictability” as a mantra doesn’t make it any more reasoned. I don’t think there’s a “transparency” issue here at all, but since we all support transparency (except, it appears, when it comes to who owns a domain name) it must
be good, right? And why the “transparency and predictability” needs of the occupants of a tiny village trump the transparency and predictability of millions of consumers is still a mystery. It represents a dirt-based physical nationalism that is very much
at odds with the border less reality and future of the Internet, though experiencing a disturbing resurgence at the moment in the U.S. and elsewhere. You can build a wall at the border or around a patch of dirt; that doesn’t mean that you put that same wall
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:04 AM<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wilkinson <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>>
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This in the interests of transparency and predictability for individual users among those communities and economies.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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El 2 de abril de 2018 a las 19:32 Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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What is your basis for thinking that Geonames takes precedence over IP? I’d like to understand that thought process, and see how broadly you think this “precedence” should be applied (and why).<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Why don’t we just ensure country codes with ISO alpha 3 is retained for countries plain and simple. There are countries where even the alpha-2 are not within an independent hands. ICANN is still working trying to release them from certain people, but still
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Then we could look at brands etc., based on IP or a strong case where it geoname attached to a country language, or culture but without also destroying a model that would be on the onus of the party requesting such Domain. Since we are talking Geonames. I think
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